I found this forum over the weekend while recovering from a pretty bad wreck I had in my 06 Armada LE on Friday 9/12/08. A little Background first. A few weeks ago, my wife and daughter were driving the Armada. They came home, told me the brake light came on and they had a lot of front end "Shuddering" and a very difficult time bringing this behemoth to a stop. I went out, started the car....No Light. Drove around...No problems at ALL!!! checked the Brake Fluid, it was right at "Minimum so I topped it off. Now remember this was I think over a month ago. I am the primary driver, and this never happened to me........Until Friday 9/12/08. I was traveling on a back road at the posted 45mph. Very clear, sunny, dry conditions. As I approached a 2 way stop, I applied the brakes.........NOTHING! I careened through the intersection, hit the curb, plowed through an emergency barrier, and tore through some new sewer lines that had yet to be buried. my car almost rolled!!! To make matters even more interesting, I threw my Cigarette out the window, while trying to locate my cell phone to dial 911.....and SMELLED GAS!! the wreck had punctured my gas tank!! Any one with similar experiences I would LOVE to hear from you.

Thanks

All I have to say is. holy cr*p! that's crazy. I've heard of people having some brake issues, but they were all fixed by the 06 model.

By brake light do you mean the parking brake light? I had an issue with my 2006 Off Road SE where the parking brake would not disconnect and the vehicle would shake and shimmy when trying to stop. It also generally drove very hesitantly probably because it was working against the parking brake. I would have to cut the vehicle completely off for it to reset and "release" the parking brake. The crazy thing is that it would sometimes cut itself on when I first started the vehicle or even when I would start driving, even when I had not applied the parking brake. The Nissan dealership in Hawaii where I bought it said this was impossible, but it would happen from time to time. They tried a few fixes that never worked. It was an intermittent problem so when I got orders to move, I shipped the vehicle. A dealership here in Alabama finally fixed it with an ECU programming update that seems to have worked.

Well i got a 05 Se. I have that issues sometimes, well twice actually. Last month it did it again. The first time I was coming right off the highway about three months ago, and it almost sounded like the noise the abs would make, but the brake lights came on it was like a cliking grindin noise at less than 15mph. Since I was close to home I took the chance and drive it home. When I turn the car off and restarted it the light was off and the problem went away. Last month it happen soon as I was driving out of my driveway, so I turn the car off, and of course the problem corrected itself. But im concern now if that happen to u, so I gonna take mines to the dealership and get it checked out.

Welcome to CA almost toast!

First of all, I am glad that you are Ok and well enough to writ this and thank God that your family was safe.

Of all of the brake issues I have heard since I have been here, that is the worst. No one has reported an accident or complete brake failure from the brake issue. Most of us have had the ABS module problem (even though the brakes still worked) and just turned off the vehicle and turned it back on. Like a reset. Others have had the BCM flashed/reset at the dealer.

sorry to hear about your misfortune, but glad no one was seriously injured. Our Armada has been experiencing the same issues as some of the stories above. These personal experiences have me worried, but know im concerned since its the Mrs's daily driver.

Will the dealer be at fault for what happened to you?? Cause mines is doing more often now...but lucky me happens to me on traffic...

Wow, Ive never had this happen. Thank god youre ok though. Thats crazy.

Glad to hear you're ok. I haven't had any problem but that's not to say I won't. I'm glad that you have found this website and I hope that you will find information here that may prevent any future issues.

I imagine an experience like that might cause some one to stop smoking cold turkey. I hope your recovery is quick. Out of curiosity, did you sustain any injuries from the crash? How did the mada fair?

Mine's diong it again (just as the original poster described (minus the wreck))... even after having the ECU reprogrammed...

The dealer wants yet another $100 to fix what they fixed about 366 days ago... Yep, just over one year. Can't say I'm real pleased about it. The only other option is to turn off the ignition and restart it - the problem them goes away (until next time...)

For anyone wondering what it sounds like, I had my little camera w/ me today - here ya go: :thumbdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAYu1NOgQ_0
They need to flash/reset yous ABS module. That was the same thing that happened to mine.

They should just replace the module then. Unless there is anoher know fix for it.

It's funny how it's always the wife driving scenario. My wife primarily drives our 04 Armada too. We did the brake recall/upgrade when we got it used in 06 as the third owner.

The brake failure has also occurred to my wife 3 times now and all very scare situations too...fortunately nothing near fatal...yet. I couldn't reproduce it the first time, was able to witness it the second time...some how it went away, and this third time it wouldn't go away until I pulled the battery cable for several minutes.

I'm having the dealer look at it tomorrow. It's over warranty, so I'm going to try to push a "good will" repair from Nissan. Dam these cars are nice, but I'm scared of letting my wife drive it...let alone myself especially with my family in it.

Welcome to CA tshajlij!

It may cost you, but you MUST have them reset the Brake Control Module.

I have an 08LE that just started doing this very rarely. Like those here if you turn the truck off and on the issue goes away and usually goes away for awhile. I am definitely getting this into the dealer, sounds like a semi common issue.

Kind of scary.

Bruce

It will scare the begeesus :eek: out of you the first time you experience it!

^^^^^lol^^^^

Hi,

Just want to report I now have the same issue with my truck. Started last week and has occurred twice. Same issue: brake vibrates and makes a noise when applied and takes a while to stop. Each time restarting resets it and it is fine.

So do the dealers know about this or should I go ahead and "recommend" them to 1). flash/reset the ABS rather than charging me to diagnose the problem. I have also noted that some have had their 2). ECU reprogrammed and others have had the 3). BCM flashed/reset.

What do you guys recommend? By the way do you know the cost associated with each one? Does anyone see a problem with getting all three done at the same time?

Thanks.

The flash/reseting of the ABS module only takes a few minutes, but they will probably charge you at leats a half hour local labor cost. The reprogramming of the ECM takes at least an hour.

Below is what I posted earlier.

Check the brake fluid level and fill it if it isn't at the "Full" mark.
Restart your vehicle and see if the lights turn off.
If that does not work you may need your ABS module reset. You probably need you ECM reprogrammed.

The ABS module shouldn't take but a couple of minutes, but there is a TSB on the ECM and that may take about an hour or more to program.

EDIT: Something I posted in an earlier thread. You may require your ABS module to be reset. It does nees to be done at the dealer though. Check this thread.
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12495

And one I posted back n February still holds true for the ECM not the BCM.
I have not had the brake problem since they performed a reprogram of the ECM based on the TSB.
http://x.nissanhelp.com/forums/Knowledgebase/links/200

TSB # NTB06-040 is for 2004–2006 NISSAN TITAN AND ARMADA; ABS AND/OR BRAKE WARNING LIGHT ON WITH DTC C1179

TSB # NTB06-009a is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; MIL “ON” WITH DTC U1000 OR U1010 STORED IN ENGINE CONTROL UNIT

TSB # NTB00-052c is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; ECM REPLACEMENT PROCEDURES

TSB # NTB09-VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURE FOR MIL “ON” DTC P0603 ECM POWER SUPPLY

The brakes are a closed hydraulic system...actually two independent hydraulic systems. When you press a pedal you displace fluid, no electronic is going to cause that to change. If there wasn't a catastrophic failure, that is fluid is still there, you have a problem with the ABS module. I've had this with a BMW 5-series in the past. Nearly impossible to diagnose (never fixed on the BMW after maybe one dozen service visits), although I it didn't seem like the original poster was going to have to have the car repaired anymore.

The repair is expensive and both time and labor. Since it intermittent and the electronics thinks it is performing correctly, there are no tell tales it is hard for the dealer to get reimbursed as a warranty claim. The part alone is $1200.

DavidNJ, are you answering the first post? That guy hasn't been back here since he first posted. He, in my opinion, is a TROLL just causing trouble.

The flash/reseting of the ABS module only takes a few minutes, but they will probably charge you at leats a half hour local labor cost. The reprogramming of the ECM takes at least an hour.

....

Thanks for the info Spyda I guess I will take it in and see what happens probably have them reset the ABS, and bring the TSB printout of it.

glad i found this forum and thread. this front end shuddering issue happen to me twice this week and i'm not about to take any chances just to ignore it after what happen to one of the guys here. it all started when i was pulling out from a parking lot, i noticed that the parking brake light remain on while the brake pedal was at OFF position. tried to re apply the parking brake then OFF again but to no avail. then as soon as i drove off and applied the brake the first time, i thought the whole front end was about to collapse due to the vibration/shudder. having a family with 2 young kids i thought it would be a good idea to take it to the dealership. moments later i got a call saying that they have to RE PROGRAM the VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control). now i don't know if that has anything to do with but it cost $220 to do that. i'd love to hear from anyone who had this experience and what caused it. thanks in advance.


05 ARMADA LE

I've had this happen once. Scared the crap out of me! It sounds like the abs was freaking out and i had the parking brake light come on. luckily i caught it in a residential because i would have hit someone if i was driving on the main road or freeway.

I'm surprised to only see 2004-2006 Armada experiencing this. I have an 07 Armada LE and this has happened twice this year. The Armada is about 51,000 miles and after seeing this thread here, I called and spoke with Nissan and they said that there's no recall on this problem and I would have to take it to an authorized dealership, pay for the diagnose and pay for the fix out of pocket. Then called them up and report what the problem was, since a log has been created for me with them....?!

I told him, I don't mind paying for it if it's wear and tear, but this is a mal-function on their end and they should cover it; especially if it's something that is of a safety concern. Yeah, Nissan don't care. If it ain't on the to-do-list of recall... they're not covering it no matter if it meant someone's life or not.

Nissan said that they weren't able to pull up any recall under my VIN. Maybe lucky for the 04-06 that enough people are reporting, but I guess maybe another year or 2 and God knows how many accidents later, my VIN may just show up on their list.

The first time this happened, I was going down a slanted hill and ran through a red light. Pumped the heck out of the brake, but the pedal had full resistance with the brakes hardly biting. Tried the e-brake too and even that didn't help much. Luckily, no other car was going through the intersection. Really scared the ba-geezus out of me, to have to feel and be in such a helpless situation with kids in the back.

I can't believe Nissan dare say that they understand and are concern about my safety, yet do nothing about the situation.

Belated welcome R-Amarda!

Yeah, unfortunately it is not a recall and only covered if your warranty is still in effect.

Had happened twice so far with my 04 Armada. The exact symptoms as the original post, minus the wrack. Armada's brake system is duplicate by a vacuumed booster which is kicking in when main system fails, not as effective as main one. Can someone please provide summaries of the repairs that needed to be done? I saw some suggestion on BCM, ECU, ECM????? Any help will be greatly appreciated! I love my Armada, but too many issues so far and Nissan is not helping at all. Thanks. Gary.

Hey there Zilya (Gary), once my ECM was reprogrammed the issues stopped.

Thanks! ECM=Engine Controle Moodule? Correct? Just want to be sound right at the deelership.

Correct!!!!

Hi I was just reading about your problem with your Armada. I have had this happen to me 3 separate times. Each time I have started my car and began to drive off and when I go to press on the brakes it sounds like my brakes have fallen out!!!! The brake light also comes on. Once the car has been turned off and then back on again the problem majically disappears!!!! I took it to Nissan two weeks ago and they said they found NOTHING!!!! They then told me when it happens again to drive it to them in this condition and not turn the car off as the system resets itself. Well, today it happened again and I happened to be a block away from the dealership but they were closed. I am extremely frustrated and don't know what to do. I came home and started doing some internet research and have found that I am not the only one with this problem. Please tell me what the dealership has told you????

Thanks so much!!

Please tell me what the dealership has told you???? Thanks so much!!

I had this happen to me last summer while teaching the wife to parallel park and we weren't to far from home and nurse the truck home. I just figured the brakes got hot from the wife ridding the brake pedal. Took it to the dealer next day and they found nothing and send me on my way. Have not experience it since then.

Welcome to CA RaynellS!

Request that they need to flash your ABS module or reprogram your ECM and depending on if you are under warranty or not will determine how much it will cost you. Below is what I posted before and I have not (knock on wood) had the problem since.

The flash/reseting of the ABS module only takes a few minutes, but they will probably charge you at leats a half hour local labor cost. The reprogramming of the ECM takes at least an hour.

Below is what I posted earlier.

Check the brake fluid level and fill it if it isn't at the "Full" mark.
Restart your vehicle and see if the lights turn off.
If that does not work you may need your ABS module reset. You probably need you ECM reprogrammed.

The ABS module shouldn't take but a couple of minutes, but there is a TSB on the ECM and that may take about an hour or more to program.

EDIT: Something I posted in an earlier thread. You may require your ABS module to be reset. It does nees to be done at the dealer though. Check this thread.
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12495

And one I posted back n February still holds true for the ECM not the BCM.
I have not had the brake problem since they performed a reprogram of the ECM based on the TSB.
http://x.nissanhelp.com/forums/Knowledgebase/links/200

TSB # NTB06-040 is for 2004–2006 NISSAN TITAN AND ARMADA; ABS AND/OR BRAKE WARNING LIGHT ON WITH DTC C1179

TSB # NTB06-009a is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; MIL “ON” WITH DTC U1000 OR U1010 STORED IN ENGINE CONTROL UNIT

TSB # NTB00-052c is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; ECM REPLACEMENT PROCEDURES

TSB # NTB09-VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURE FOR MIL “ON” DTC P0603 ECM POWER SUPPLY

This has happened to my 04 as well..about five or six times over the years. It happens to me when I let off the brakes and then press back down on them very quickly ( an unintended double tap "if you will") usually when I'm coming off the freeway onto the exit. It has never happened when I'm applying smooth constant pressure. The "double-tap" might be a way for you to cause the error for the dealer to see? It has always reset with flip off/on of the ignition. Hmmm...maybe I should get my ABS reset.

I think you should at least do that!

Hey Guys, well I'm not happy to be posting here, but want some advice....I just bought my 05' 2 weeks ago, already I had the shaky brakes so I had my front rotors and pads replaced at Nissan to the tune of $600...but just an hour ago (only at 10 mph- thank god) brake light came on out of nowhere, brake pedal shook and made a funky noise, so I pulled over and turned the engine off and then back on and the problem went away. I'm the 3rd owner of my truck and Nissan told me when I had my brakes done last week, all of the things that Nissan has done to my truck using my VIN. I even wrote it down, the ABS was reset in Nov 07'...and obviously that isn't going to fix my problem again. So what's the best recommendation, reset the ECM? Is there something to be done with the brake booster?

I'm a housewife, with 3 little ones and do NOT want this to ever happen again, I'm terribly frightened.

Thanks.

My wife had this happen to her as she was headed to a business close to our dealership, and she went straight to the dealership as soon as it happened. The dealership replaced the brake booster (warranted repair) and we've not had the problem again.

Called the dealership, they said it "sounds" like I need the ecu reset and brake booster replaced and that it would cost $770. We did the brake booster self test that's in the owners manual and that came out fine, so does it sound like the dealer is just guessing? I can't afford that. If it's just a matter of resetting the ecu hey said it was $100. Any advice?

rkpatteson, since you just got it two weeks ago did they give you some sort of warranty or was it an "as is" purchase. I would think that for what you paid, they should stand by theis sale and help you out with your problem. Press them for it and check with their managers for help.


fittzwing, welcome to CA!

My car was Bought in a private party sale, so no warranty. But went to the dealership and they tried the fix (resetting the system) as per the TSB, and they said that it didn't take. They said the sensors have gone bad inside the brake booster and that the whole thing would have to be replaced and then reset at the cost of $800. So, we opted to not do that b/c I started thinking about buying a Nissan extended warranty anyway, and realized if I did this then the brake booster is covered. So the cost of the warranty is $2,100 and then I'll have to just pay the $50 deductible. And then I'll have 2 yr/ 24k coverage. We'll see!

The extended warranty is a good option. My warranty paid for itself twice over.

not much to add, besides "me too" in my 2004... luckily it has only happened twice and when im driving, not the wife! heading to the Stealership armed with this info, thanks!

Interestesing, my 2004 Armada had the same problem today! I was driving through my neighborhood, approached a stop sign and clunk clunk. The brake light on the dash lite ups and the brakes went soft and an awful noise from the rotors and pads. I turned the car off and it stopped. Can someone please telll me specifically what is causing it and how to get it fixed. Thanks everyone!

Interestesing, my 2004 Armada had the same problem today! I was driving through my neighborhood, approached a stop sign and clunk clunk. The brake light on the dash lite ups and the brakes went soft and an awful noise from the rotors and pads. I turned the car off and it stopped. Can someone please telll me specifically what is causing it and how to get it fixed. Thanks everyone!
Here is what I posted on page 4 of this thread.

Request that they need to flash your ABS module or reprogram your ECM and depending on if you are under warranty or not will determine how much it will cost you. Below is what I posted before and I have not (knock on wood) had the problem since.

The flash/reseting of the ABS module only takes a few minutes, but they will probably charge you at leats a half hour local labor cost. The reprogramming of the ECM takes at least an hour.

Below is what I posted earlier.

Check the brake fluid level and fill it if it isn't at the "Full" mark.
Restart your vehicle and see if the lights turn off.
If that does not work you may need your ABS module reset. You probably need you ECM reprogrammed.

The ABS module shouldn't take but a couple of minutes, but there is a TSB on the ECM and that may take about an hour or more to program.

EDIT: Something I posted in an earlier thread. You may require your ABS module to be reset. It does nees to be done at the dealer though. Check this thread.
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12495

And one I posted back n February still holds true for the ECM not the BCM.


TSB # NTB06-040 is for 2004–2006 NISSAN TITAN AND ARMADA; ABS AND/OR BRAKE WARNING LIGHT ON WITH DTC C1179

TSB # NTB06-009a is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; MIL “ON” WITH DTC U1000 OR U1010 STORED IN ENGINE CONTROL UNIT

TSB # NTB00-052c is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; ECM REPLACEMENT PROCEDURES

TSB # NTB09-VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURE FOR MIL “ON” DTC P0603 ECM POWER SUPPLY

I've had this emergency brake issue for a while now...didn't realize that it is a common thing. Has anyone been able to fix this problem? I took it to a nissan dealer who said they have not heard of it and will adjust it, but after getting it back about 4 weeks ago...it has happend 3 times!! I want this fixed so bad!!! I want to be able to travel, go to the mountains, and to remote places and not have to worry about my and my family's safety!!!

Happened again today...scared the wife again....really think this should be a recall!!!!

file with ntsb so we can get this recalled...

Howdy fellas. I was just about to purchase a 2004 Armada and found that many people have this issue.

I understand many of you take things to the dealer or to a certified mechanic to fix the problem, some in, some out of warranty.

I come from owning a lot of cars, and fixing all issues myself. I have owned 4 240sx's in the past 10 years and know how to deal with even computer issues.

Do any of you have a DIY fix? can I by-pass this brake assist? do any of you have a Factory Service Manual I can look at? not a haynes, but the huge manual that the Nissan Tech's have?

Knowledge is power, and frankly I'm one of those dudes that likes to know EVERYTHING about his cars. No offense to this demographic, but you guys technically don't know how to fix stuff, you let someone else fix it. Do any of you work at Nissan with some inside knowledge or do I have to make some new local friends?

I am same too and tried to find solution. Look at the TSB and you will see why it has to be done by a dealer. I had this happen and its been 4 months after I had TSB done and so far so good.


Howdy fellas. I was just about to purchase a 2004 Armada and found that many people have this issue.

I understand many of you take things to the dealer or to a certified mechanic to fix the problem, some in, some out of warranty.

I come from owning a lot of cars, and fixing all issues myself. I have owned 4 240sx's in the past 10 years and know how to deal with even computer issues.

Do any of you have a DIY fix? can I by-pass this brake assist? do any of you have a Factory Service Manual I can look at? not a haynes, but the huge manual that the Nissan Tech's have?

Knowledge is power, and frankly I'm one of those dudes that likes to know EVERYTHING about his cars. No offense to this demographic, but you guys technically don't know how to fix stuff, you let someone else fix it. Do any of you work at Nissan with some inside knowledge or do I have to make some new local friends?

Howdy fellas. I was just about to purchase a 2004 Armada and found that many people have this issue.

I understand many of you take things to the dealer or to a certified mechanic to fix the problem, some in, some out of warranty.

I come from owning a lot of cars, and fixing all issues myself. I have owned 4 240sx's in the past 10 years and know how to deal with even computer issues.

Do any of you have a DIY fix? can I by-pass this brake assist? do any of you have a Factory Service Manual I can look at? not a haynes, but the huge manual that the Nissan Tech's have?

Knowledge is power, and frankly I'm one of those dudes that likes to know EVERYTHING about his cars. No offense to this demographic, but you guys technically don't know how to fix stuff, you let someone else fix it. Do any of you work at Nissan with some inside knowledge or do I have to make some new local friends?

Sorry to go off topic. Walperstyle, there are many people here who fix their own Armada. If they know they will answer or at least try to point you in the right direction if they don't.

Many of the fixes require equipment such as Consult which is quite expensive and forces us to use the dealer to fix.

Having the abs module reflashed (Needs equipment which I can"t afford) uaually solved the problem for most. Do a search and you will find many posts on this subject.

Coming from a fairly common Nissan group on zilvia.net for example, its really easy to buy, or even get free computer's. I do realize however that there is a billion 240's out there, and not as many Armada's. So the support group will be limited, figured I'd ask anyways.

I was mostly curious if anyone has hacked a more basic brake system, like even a Brembo system or Stoptech, because technically, you can do this to anything with 4 wheels.

You are talking to a guy that has no problem hacking wires and bypassing. In-fact I'm going to probably build my own Kill switch if I end up buying this 04 Armada like I have on my 240sx and old 65 chrysler.

If I do end up buying for the right price, I promise to be an asset to this community. I'd probably already have a DIY fix for this by now if I could sit down with my own Armada for a few days. :)

Cheers!

Walperstyle,

I'm just like you I'm more of a DIY type of dude. I always try to avoid the dealer at all costs. This forum doesn't have that much technical advice so I would recommend checking out titantalk.com. Those guys are gear heads and they have a lot of write ups for fixing issues. So far I replaced my radiator, exhaust manifold and full fluid replacement by using their forum as a guide since the armada and Titan are almost the same vehicle. As for the brake pedal issue, it seems for the most part a programming issue so I don't think you'd have a choice besides a dealer. Unless you replace your entire brake booster which is the worst case scenario if the reprogramming didn't work.

Yeah once again, its nothing against Armada Owners. Not putting you guys down, its just there is so few Armada's compared to the others. So where can I download a FSM?

go to nissanhelp.com and sign up for $10 to download all the nissan manuals and info you need. well worth it.

I also am new to the forum and am sick of Nissan dealers trying to hide this problem. It has happened 3 times to my wife, the primary driver of the armada and I had it towed to Nissan deemed to dangerous to drive (this Friday). They reset the computer and said we needed all new brakes. I took it to Just Brakes and after inspection said nothing needed! The dealer wanted 580 bucks to fix a non-existant problem. I am writing to Nissan regarding them. Ours is an 05 by the way.

I hate this "i will sue" world we live in but in my opinion, there is enough evidence here to show your insurance company and I am sure they would love to go after Nissan for damages and maybe a recall, (again). Glad you are OK...

This brake issue have happened to my wife, who's also the primary driver of our 2007 Armada, about 4 times and have happened to me first hand three times. The first time, I was totally unaware of the situation when it happened. The second time, I saw that the brake light suddenly turned on as I was driving straight doing about 30 miles per hour. I tried braking and it brake seems fine. I looked at the e-brake and it wasn't pressed by accident, looked normal also. I slowed down a bit and then as I brake more, the crunching sound of metal grinding was loudly heard and the car hardly slowed down at all. I tapped and let go of the brake, just enough for the car to slow and pulled to the side. Turned off the car ignition and on again and all was normal again, as everyone has noted.

Third time was just two days ago. Barely started the car and pulled out of the shopping plaza onto a street. Instrument panel brake light was on and as I pressed the brake pedal, I can hear an electric motor going off temporarily everytime I pressed the brake and the loud crunch grinding of metal from below the car. Pulled to the side and restarted the car again and all was normal.

I had taken it to the Nissan Dealer before and the service manager told me that they are completely aware of the problem, but there's been no recall from corporate Nissan, so there's nothing they can do about it. Anything that they do will come out of the owner's pocket. They would first try to remedy it with resetting the ECU, not that it's a solution, but more of a trouble shoot. Again, out of pocket from the owner. Then if the problem comes back, then they would change out the brake booster (out of pocket from owner again) to see if it would help (also noting that it still may not be the solution).

So the service manager said that this is why they haven't done anything. Because they themselves can not reproduce the situation when it's on their premise. They're just going off from owner's experience.

Again, it sucks that this situation would have to come down to a fatal lawsuit like Toyota before anything happens. But if there's anyone who's got the right leverage of writing some sort of petition to Nissan; I'm sure we'll all sign and back it up. Until then, we'll either have to sell it or drive cautiously and be on the lookout for that brake light in the instrument panel.

Does anyone think that this issue is somewhat related to the ecm relay going bad? Did anyone still have this brake problem after they had the new ECM relay?

Just to chime in I bought my 04 Armada 3 weeks ago and have had this problem twice already. The first time it was raining so I just thought it had to do with the water or something. But then it just happened again yesterday and as the past time just turning off the truck and turning it back on seems to reset and everything is fine. So who do we have to contact to make Nissan aware of this problem to be considered a RECALL.

WOW! I am glad you and your family were ok....

Believe

happened to me again...sux

Welcome to CA thefacce!

Let us know how the call and subsequent law suit goes!

Thanks... No lawsuit for me yet as luckily, there has been no "wrecks" associated with the failure. I am still awaiting a callback from the regional Nissan rep on the wonderful dealer issue. I will update if anything positive to repport...

Pls make sure to complain to NTSB. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LvSFqJxXQ for a clip I posted when I had the issue. I had to have the dealer do TSB NTB06-040 to resolve it. It has been 3 months and has not come back yet.

Calling Nissan right now...this is 4 times in 3 years...scary!

Just got it documented with Nissan and they are sending me to the nearest dealer for another recall that needs to be performed with the ECM relay. I told them I don't want to kill anyone! 6600lbs not being able to stop is not good!

Great catch numbay!

That's it!

Here is the link to report this issue to NHTSA.gov: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/Complaint.cfm
I have the issue again after 1400 miles. Just got off the call with Nissan USA and they are not doing anything about it. File Number 7181591 with Nissan USA. Please have them look at my file if you call NissanUSA for this issue.

Time to go to the dealership again :( for a new diagnosis.

I am looking at the diagnostic report from local Nissan dealer in Everett, WA. I was told this is due to Delta Sensor in the Brake Booster. Re-flashing and programing the ABS Module (TSB NTB06-040) did not resolve the issue for me.
Service Manager seemed knowledgeable, but would not do anything for $836 + Tax quote. Part #47210-7S010 was quoted about $450 and rest for labor and others. I can get the Brake booster pump online cheaper, but would like to talk to Nissan USA before I do anything.

Has anyone changed the Brake booster pump somewhere other than at Stealership?

Happened again yesterday....contact Nissan again and contacted NHTSA also....we all need to do this and get it documented.

Bobby

My father owns an 04' Armada LE and for the past 6 years he has been having the same issue that everyone else here is experiencing. It would happen maybe once every two months or maybe twice a month, it pretty much has a mind of its own unfortunately.

During this time the truck has been in the service dept. about 4 times for the same issue, but we were never lucky enough to have the brake failure happen while a tech was present so we were sent on our merry way with no solution. Made a complaint to Nissan back in 07 but nothing came of it since we could not replicate the problem at hand at the time.

He pretty much learned to deal with the problem (Turn car on/off) since he got no help from Nissan or the dealership and plus with the economy taking its downturn we couldn't afford trading her in, especially with this dreaded brake problem on our conscience.

Fast forward to last week: I decided to help my older brother move a flat screen TV to his new digs with the Mada' and you guess it, the brake failure once again. Pulled over, turned the truck off and on but the problem didn't go away this time. Tried it once more and yet again it persisted. Called AAA and had the truck towed to the dealer where is was purchased and pretty much went on a tear in the service dept. Since I was out of warranty the service manager diagnosed, performed all recalls (ECM relay, fan vibration fix) necessary and re-flashed the ABS per TSB all for free. Picked up the truck yesterday and all seems fine, but my father and I don't trust it one bit and know it will be back, we've been through this game before.

My father loves his "Rig" as he calls it and does not want to get rid of it. At 75k on the ODO the engine has not given us not one problem during ownership. I personally believe the braking system as a whole is flawed and Nissan doesn't want to open its pocket to help its customers which is truly sad. Its pretty much the business etiquette these days.

Lastly, I would like to thank everyone in advance for their knowledge, time and enthusiasm toward an awesome truck. Again, I'm chiming in here for my father who isn't too computer savy lol I myself own a 2009 VW GTI and I know first hand what kind of power a forum holds against stealerships, car companies and also some crooked tuner shops. I'm sure many of you heard of the DSG transmission recalls VW issued not to long ago. If it wasn't for us forum members standing up for whats fair and w/ the help of the NHSTA, VW would have swept the issue under then rug just like Nissan is doing which is a load of BS in everybody's book.

Welcome to CA MarkiGTI!

Nice post. What you say the dealer service department has done should solve the problem for a while.

I had that done and it lasted for a couple of years, but now it occurs every now and then.

I just had this same problem last night driving back home on my QX. Brake light came on, grinding, etc, etc. It was scary as hell, good thing I was doing 20mph and even then I had difficulty trying to stop. Same as shown on numbay's Video.
Should I just take the vehicle to dealership and have them take a look/replace/fix whatever it is to have problem solved or am I just doing to be wasting my time and money?
It definitely seems to be a computer related problem, because today, after sitting overnight there's no break light and everything was working good. I guess
I'm the first 07 QX here with this issue.

Rob

There is already a lawsuit on this: http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/27/Nissan.pdf

Has anyone here tried swapping out a brake system so its a pedal control. Much like a 240sx or fonteer? Basic system that involves a BMC and pedal mechanical with vaccum support?

There should be an easy swap fix?

Edit: I didn't end up buying the armada, but I still own my 240sx and I tinker around a lot with it. Just changed suspension again and all control arms. There should be a way to bypass the electronic BS and just go with a BMD/Vac Suppor like most other nissans? What about a titan swap?

I was catching up on this topic this morning and was glad to hear there was a class action lawsuit. I hope they do a recall. I haven't had the problem since last fall.... that is until I moved the truck tonight! Talk about bad karma!! brake light on, spring and ABS sounds, reduced brake pressure... the typical stuff we've all seen. I turned it off and on but this time it didn't go away. I tried again, still there. so while I had the issue I thought I'd test it out. I took it for a short drive around the block and tried various brake pressures to see if there was a certain spot it would go crazy... there isn't. I also tried turning off the car, putting it in neutral and trying to brake, it still did the same thing. I remember reading a post saying that because it's BCM related if you turn the car off you get normal brakes again... NOT TRUE. Be careful. If the dealer was open, I would've driven right over.

I hope it calms down by morning. I'm worried that it didn't go away this time when shutting off the car.

Thanks for posting that lawsuit case. I just wrote the lawyer listed to see if information I can provide would be of any help.

Thanks for posting that lawsuit case. I just wrote the lawyer listed to see if information I can provide would be of any help.

I had done the same too!

I had done the same too!
Update from Law office of Need more examples with details for lawsuit for this issue. Please call Law office of My Cliff Carter at (916) 924-3100 or email information to ccarter@justice4you.com so your case is added to the lawsuit.
I just got off the phone with him and my case is added to the lawsuit. We need more examples cases for movement.
Lawsuit case at http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/27/Nissan.pdf

Keep us posted and let us know how can we help. I wrote to the lawyer listed as well.

I think it''ll be a good idea to post the link on other Armada/Titan/QX forums to get as much support as possible.

EDIT: just saw your response above.

Rob

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/titan-pictures-media-post/120896-death-family.html

found this on the titan forums...

Has anyone seen reports of this problem affecting 2009-2011 Armadas or the 2009-2010 QX56? I am about ready to pull the trigger on a new Armada or a 2010 QX56 but this problem has me concerned. Seems the majority of complaints come from owners of 2004-2006 model years, though I have seen owners of one 2008 QX/Armada and one "2008.5" Titan mention their experiences with the same problem on the various forums...

I have seen a few threads about the 2010 models doing it also. It's really too soon to say since they are still fairly new. The brakes seem to start failing after 2-3 years of ownership. I have a 2004 that I bought used and I haven't experienced the brakes failing yet "knock on wood" but I have no idea if it happened to the previous owner. I know one thing, the moment it happens to me I will be trading it in for a gmc Yukon or suburban.

Even though it is a hassle when it happens, it is not a frequent occurence. If your brake module gets reset, it usually goes away. If you are paying attention to your controls and dash, you can see the signs when it starts to happen. Every time mine has happened, the brake light would start to faintly flash. I have often seen it and slowed down enough to just pull off the road and "re-boot"!

That's not acceptable. Brakes should work under any circumstance.

Even though it is a hassle when it happens, it is not a frequent occurence. If your brake module gets reset, it usually goes away. If you are paying attention to your controls and dash, you can see the signs when it starts to happen. Every time mine has happened, the brake light would start to faintly flash. I have often seen it and slowed down enough to just pull off the road and "re-boot"!

That is exactly the point, brakes are a very fundamental part of any motorized vehicle, the ability to make an object as big as ours stop or reduce its speed is crucial to prevent any kind of damage/injury/accident to you and your passengers as well as other drivers on the road. Brakes should work under any circumstances at any given time. Otherwise why would any one need brakes for?


Rob

Seems unreal that in 8 model years, Nissan has not been able to solve this problem once and for all. The Armada/QX56 is the only full size SUV I have any interest in owning but I am really hesitant to pull the trigger considering the number of reports of brake problems like this. I can live with warped rotors but I will not deal with brakes that effectively fail, even if a restart "fixes" the issue. A restart will not "fix" the issue if I happen to be on a curvy mountain road or a bridge with no shoulder when the issue decides to rear its ugly head.

I had remained optimistic that it was just a software issue that was fixed by reprogramming but it appears owners have had the problem come back after the software updates.

It's one thing to have a handful of owners complain of an issue but there are countless, multi-page threads on a number of forums discussing this very problem including at least one Titan owner that wrecked his truck because of it.

Really encourage all current owners that have experienced this problem to contact the lawyer that has started the class-action suit. Infiniti FX owners had to do this with a dash bubbling issue and Nissan finally had to step up and cover the cost of replacing the dashes. Considering this is a much more serious issue, I cannot imagine it taking much legal pressure to finally force Nissan into taking the problem seriously and finding a definitive solution. They will not want to duplicate Toyota's bad press.

I agree, Nissan is trying to avoid what Toyota went through and they are sweeping the problem under the rug. It's just a matter of time.

I have read a few posts and complaints on websites that while it "appears" braking power is about 25% of normal when this problem pops up, depressing the pedal all the way to the floor results in immediate and full braking power. Some have complained that it brought the vehicle to a sudden stop as they continued to press the pedal.

For those of you that have actually experienced this, do you agree you can still have full braking power by pushing as far down on the pedal as it will go? Or is your experience that you have significantly reduced braking ability regardless of how far you depress the pedal?

Really want to find some "comfort" in buying an Armada/QX because the alternative is a new F-150.

I've had my 04LE since feb 2010 (I got it the day before "snowmagedden") and the first time this happened i thought something was seriously wrong and took it back to the dealer that I got it from and of course, they did not find anything wrong, this happened before I discovered this fourm. After reading what some of the other members were saying about this I thought that this would a common thing to happen to my mada on the regular. It has happened four times since and three of the four times it happened I had backed up first, two of the times I did not realize it until I got halfway to where I was going. I did experience that "springy grinding noise" but i had no problem bringing my vehicle to a stop that is, loss of braking power. But I agree that it shouldn't be doing that in the first place. I feel that there are a lot of potential customers that won't buy becuase of this issue.
In reguards to what Spyda said about the brake light flashing, I thought I was tripping becuase twice i saw that light flash while driving at night, it was faint and I thought it was me but nothing happened afterwards so go figure:) I still luv my mada!

I got a callback from Nissan America in reference to BBB complain I submitted.
Summary of my call:
We are sorry you bought vehicle that we don't know how to fix, deal with it. There is nobody in Nissan you can help you.

Anyone following this, please make sure you also file a complain to BBB http://nashville.app.bbb.org/filecomplaint

Even though it is a hassle when it happens, it is not a frequent occurence. If your brake module gets reset, it usually goes away. If you are paying attention to your controls and dash, you can see the signs when it starts to happen. Every time mine has happened, the brake light would start to faintly flash. I have often seen it and slowed down enough to just pull off the road and "re-boot"!

This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. C'mon man... we all love our Armada's... so much that this critical and rediculous safety issue is often brushed off as a normal hic-up that us Armada owners have to put up with.

But it is NOT too much to expect the brakes to work properly, or at least get repaired with confidence if there is a problem.. not just a reflash of the BCM that we hope works.

This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. C'mon man... we all love our Armada's... so much that this critical and rediculous safety issue is often brushed off as a normal hic-up that us Armada owners have to put up with.

But it is NOT too much to expect the brakes to work properly, or at least get repaired with confidence if there is a problem.. not just a reflash of the BCM that we hope works.
I have said many things, but nothing dumb to date!

I never said that brakes were not a critical safety issue on our Armadas. Even when the VDC/BRAKE/SLIP lights come on, the brakes have always worked. I have had my Armada for years and the first time it happened to me, it scared the shiggity out of me as well.

However, after years of driving this vehicle and with over 140,000 miles, I have the confidence in my Armada and the driving skills required to stop it.

If you do not feel safe in your vehicle, by all means take it in and get it fixed. That is what I did. However, if you no longer have the confidence in your vehicles safety, then you should take whatever actions you feel necessary to gain the desired results.

Keep in mind the post that started this entire thread, had nothing to do with the VDC/BRAKE/SLIP issue and was posted three years ago by someone who never posted anything else, but a repeat of the same post. See below
I found this forum over the weekend while recovering from a pretty bad wreck I had in my 06 Armada LE on Friday 9/12/08. A little Background first. A few weeks ago, my wife and daughter were driving the Armada. They came home, told me the brake light came on and they had a lot of front end "Shuddering" and a very difficult time bringing this behemoth to a stop. I went out, started the car....No Light. Drove around...No problems at ALL!!! checked the Brake Fluid, it was right at "Minimum so I topped it off. Now remember this was I think over a month ago. I am the primary driver, and this never happened to me........Until Friday 9/12/08. I was traveling on a back road at the posted 45mph. Very clear, sunny, dry conditions. As I approached a 2 way stop, I applied the brakes.........NOTHING! I careened through the intersection, hit the curb, plowed through an emergency barrier, and tore through some new sewer lines that had yet to be buried. my car almost rolled!!! To make matters even more interesting, I threw my Cigarette out the window, while trying to locate my cell phone to dial 911.....and SMELLED GAS!! the wreck had punctured my gas tank!! Any one with similar experiences I would LOVE to hear from you.

Thanks

Hello all, new to this site after being a forum vulture for a few months. I decided to join after having some similar brake problems with my otherwise beloved Armada.

From everything I have read this problem is with the 04-06 models. Has anyone delt with brake loss on the newer models? I am asking because yesterday I had the same problem with my 08'LE when I was pulling a 6k travel trailer. The Red brake light came on and the brakes were squishy and unresponsive with grinding noises coming from the front. I was able to pull over to check everything out and suspected I had overheated the brakes because after I got back in and restarted the truck everything was fine.

The same problem happened today after running some errands. This time no trailer, no stop and go traffic, hard braking or anything else to warrant brake failure.

Welcome to CA TroubleFree!

If the same thing is happening to your year model, provide them with the info below.


Request Nissan Service department flash your ABS module or reprogram your ECM and depending on if you are under warranty or not will determine how much it will cost you. Below is what I posted before and I have not (knock on wood) had the problem since.
(Update: It has happend a few time in the past couple of years.)

The flash/reseting of the ABS module only takes a few minutes, but they will probably charge you at leats a half hour local labor cost. The reprogramming of the ECM takes at least an hour.

Below is what I posted earlier.

Check the brake fluid level and fill it if it isn't at the "Full" mark.
Restart your vehicle and see if the lights turn off.
If that does not work you may need your ABS module reset. You probably need you ECM reprogrammed.

The ABS module shouldn't take but a couple of minutes, but there is a TSB on the ECM and that may take about an hour or more to program.

EDIT: Something I posted in an earlier thread. You may require your ABS module to be reset. It does nees to be done at the dealer though. Check this thread.
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12495

And one I posted back n February still holds true for the ECM not the BCM.


TSB # NTB06-040 is for 2004–2006 NISSAN TITAN AND ARMADA; ABS AND/OR BRAKE WARNING LIGHT ON WITH DTC C1179

TSB # NTB06-009a is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; MIL “ON” WITH DTC U1000 OR U1010 STORED IN ENGINE CONTROL UNIT

TSB # NTB00-052c is for VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; ECM REPLACEMENT PROCEDURES

TSB # NTB09-VARIOUS NISSAN MODELS; DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURE FOR MIL “ON” DTC P0603 ECM POWER SUPPLY

Well, I took my QX to the Infiniti dealer and dropped it off to have them do a recall repair on it (Fuel gauge indicator) and while in there I had them check the brake issue. I told them from the beginning what the problem is (brake light comes on, grinding, no braking power,etc, etc) after I asked him if this particular problem was common on the QX's to what the service rep answered they don't see that kind of issue happen on the QX's.

A few hours go by and I receive a call from the service rep saying that I have to replace the brake booster ($727 parts and labor) to fix the problem and that he just had a call from one of his clients with a QX reporting the same issue "no brakes at all". I told him to hold off on that and that I'll get taken care of later.

Today I went to the Nissan dealer and asked one if the reps about the brake problem, to my surprise the rep said that Yes, they are aware of the problem and that it is caused by a sensor (the Delta sensor) on the brake booster and that it [brake booster] needs to be replaced in order to solve the problem. He also said that there's no recall by Nissan on this part but that they are aware of the issue.

Hope this helps anyone.

Rob

I wonder how hard it is to change?

http://www.courtesyparts.com/armada-parts-ta60-2004-2011/genuine-nissan-parts/brake/470-brake-servo-servo-control/-c-1063_1064_1154_1161.html
http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/ta60_470-1.gif

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/47210-TA60002_1.jpg http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/47210-TA60002_2.jpg

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See below instruction to remove and install booster pump

Great, thanks numbay!

See below instruction to remove and install booster pump

I wonder how hard it is to change?

http://www.courtesyparts.com/armada-parts-ta60-2004-2011/genuine-nissan-parts/brake/470-brake-servo-servo-control/-c-1063_1064_1154_1161.html
http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/ta60_470-1.gif

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/47210-TA60002_1.jpg http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/ta60/47210-TA60002_2.jpg

Great posts guys thank you!

I'm a little confused as to which one I should purchase for a 2004 Mada'

1. [47210] BOOSTER ASSY-BRAKE
Armada (TA60) 47210-TA60002
08/2003-12/2005

Or

2. [47210] BOOSTER ASSY-BRAKE
Armada (TA60) 47210-TA60001
2004 VK56DE

I know VK56DE is the engine code but does it really matter which one I purchase between the two? Thanks in advance! :bow:

Call Coutresy Nissan!

Update from Law office of Need more examples with details for lawsuit for this issue. Please call Law office of My Cliff Carter at (916) 924-3100 or email information to ccarter@justice4you.com so your case is added to the lawsuit.
I just got off the phone with him and my case is added to the lawsuit. We need more examples cases for movement.
Lawsuit case at http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/27/Nissan.pdf
I just had this happen to me today. 3rd time. Seems like it's when it is around 95 degrees outside. I've been a member of clubarmada since Nov 2004 and have over 1,100 posts. Never one negative thing. but this time it's real, and it's bad. Had my whole family in the Armada today and hit the brake and heard a bunch of clicking and clanking noises, and Armada just did it's own thing. Stopping was not one of them. After nearly hitting 3 cars, I was able to pull over and restart engine. Then back to normal again. Checked brake fluid and it was full.

I'll add my name to this list. Nissan's going to kill someone if they don't recall this immediately.

This is real serious problem for me and my wife also. Thank God, so far there was no emergency situation that we've experience, like nearly hitting a car or even worse a person. It happened when getting out of a parking lot at my daughter's school and out of my driveway. The dash board brake light will come on and when I brake, the anti-lock brake will engage which increase the stopping distance of a full size SUV. We bought the Mada brand new, has only 35K+ now. Iam planning to get the brake fluid flush this weekend, hopefully the problem will go away.:(

This is real serious problem for me and my wife also. Thank God, so far there was no emergency situation that we've experience, like nearly hitting a car or even worse a person. It happened when getting out of a parking lot at my daughter's school and out of my driveway. The dash board brake light will come on and when I brake, the anti-lock brake will engage which increase the stopping distance of a full size SUV. We bought the Mada brand new, has only 35K+ now. Iam planning to get the brake fluid flush this weekend, hopefully the problem will go away.:(
I too had just pulled out of the parking lot after picking up my kids from school too. The last time it happened, same thing, just pulled out of a parking lot.

I'm thinking it has something to do with idling?? Each time this has happened, I first made sure the fluid was topped off, and then flushed the system. Didn't help. Other threads are talking about the need to actually change a part but not sure if this is a confirmed fix. This should be a top priority recall and fix for Nissan. The brakes pretty important.

Has anyone here actually replaced the brake booster themselves? Just wondering if there were any tips or nuances that I should know about.

I purchased a new brake booster from courtesyparts.com and will probably tackle the problem this weekend with a couple gear head friends of mine. I'll also be replacing the pads and brake flush. Wish us luck everyone! :cool:

PS = CourtesyParts.com and the people that work there are great! Very informative and their prices are on point. I would def order from them again.

I had to take the beast back again to another dealer and I have to say, this one was actually knowledgeable about the problem and stated they have had to fix many Armada's and Titans with the same issue. He said that if you replace the booster, they guarantee the problem will go away... Only 650 bucks. So, the previous thread from MarkiGTI is the first time I heard about the booster. May be the fix... would be nice if NISSAN stepped up and did a recall on it. I have not heard from them since my last thread. I did blast the crap out of them in a survey but that too fell on deaf ears. Oh well.

I had to take mine in twice for this problem. First time they did a ECM update to recalibrate the ABS stuff. That worked for ohh 2-3 days.. then it happened again. He said they would replace the brake booster next. Havent had any issues with it since they did the new booster.

Regardless if you have dealer replace the booster pump or do it yourself, please report the issue to NHTSA https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
We need more examples for this issue!!!
And to BBB http://nashville.app.bbb.org/filecomplaint if you were talking to a dumb wall at NissanUSA.

I just filled out the form and submitted it... thanks...

What dealership in Alabama fixed this for you? My wife's 04 is having the same issue and I simply hate dealing with a dealership but it sounds like I need to in this case.

New to message board. I found this site because I have an 08 Armada and nearly ran through a red light the other night because I experienced the same exact problem...shuttering, pinging sound when applying brakes...oh, and not stopping!!! I had my newborn in the car with me.

I've been researching online for two days and everything I see for the Armada is up to the '06...anyone else experiencing this with a new model?

It's in at the dealership now but they acted as if they'd never heard of this problem...ugh!

I have an 08 and I did almost everything with this truck I'm at 50k now and never had any problems


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New to message board. I found this site because I have an 08 Armada and nearly ran through a red light the other night because I experienced the same exact problem...shuttering, pinging sound when applying brakes...oh, and not stopping!!! I had my newborn in the car with me.

I've been researching online for two days and everything I see for the Armada is up to the '06...anyone else experiencing this with a new model?

It's in at the dealership now but they acted as if they'd never heard of this problem...ugh!
There's been cases for 08's too. I took to dealer and they also told they've never heard of it. So of course they can't fix because they can't reproduce. So after the last time it happened with my family of 5 nearly rear ended a post office truck, I contacted Nissan Consumer Affairs and they told me that I need to bring to dealership for diagnosis. I told them that they already told me they have no idea. Never heard back from Nissan Consumer Affairs.

I've never been negative and actually very defensive of Nissan since 2004. But when they knowingly turn their backs on a known defect that can kill, my respect is gone. Irresponsible.

I have to say, I'm glad I can now prove that I am NOT crazy!!! on Sept 20 I was in an accident with my 04 Nissan. I had experienced this breaking problem a few times but was always able to "pump" the breaks to a stop. With a really loud grinding noise and hopping feeling. THIS time they went completely to the floor with the same grinding noise and boom! I hit the SUV in front of me. I had previously taken it to 2 other mechanics and both told me nothing was wrong, finally I had to drive across country so I had my breaks and rotors changed anyways just in case. a month later, I was in this accident. luckily no one was injured but I had my 3 yr old daughter in the truck with me! Now it is sitting at the dealer because I am afraid to drive it till they figure out what the problem is. AND I have to drive BACK across country! Nissan needs to be sued! Anyone file a class action?

Well first off, just wanted to say sorry to hear of your troubles with your brakes and hope you and your family are doing fine. Did some research and the only real helpful one was an Armada owner that had their brake booster/Master Vacuum Assembly part #47210-ZC01C replaced and so far so good. I had a 2006 Titan 4x4 with 50000 before my 2010 Titanium Mada with 15000 presently and have not had any brake issues to report. Most of the videos viewed on youtube under armada brake issues were vehicles with upwards of 70000 to 100000 miles on them. Roughly 300.00 for the part and 500.00 for labor was one dealership quote from one Mada owner. If youre mechanically inclined, 500.00 saved in the pocket. And in my opinion, thats still cheaper than a new car payment. JMHO.;)

Well first off, just wanted to say sorry to hear of your troubles with your brakes and hope you and your family are doing fine. Did some research and the only real helpful one was an Armada owner that had their brake booster/Master Vacuum Assembly part #47210-ZC01C replaced and so far so good. I had a 2006 Titan 4x4 with 50000 before my 2010 Titanium Mada with 15000 presently and have not had any brake issues to report. Most of the videos viewed on youtube under armada brake issues were vehicles with upwards of 70000 to 100000 miles on them. Roughly 300.00 for the part and 500.00 for labor was one dealership quote from one Mada owner. If youre mechanically inclined, 500.00 saved in the pocket. And in my opinion, thats still cheaper than a new car payment. JMHO.;)
Good post. 99%+ of the time, everythings great. However, when that random time comes when the brakes decide to stop working, it can be bad. In 2005 Nissan stepped up and replaced faulty brake rotors and pads. With this known problem which is way more dangerous, they haven't done anything. Further more, the Nissan dealerships are charging people to diagnose and come back with they can't find anything wrong and start throwing suggested repairs out. So you can spend thousands of dollars on this without knowing if you're actually fixing anything.

What I personally am looking for is for Nissan to at least officially state what the problem is so I can fix it knowing what the problem is. If it is the booster, then someone should let the dealerships I've been to know that. They are all playing dumb.

I still love my 04 Mada and plan to keep it for a few more years.

Thanks for the compliment andy and I am sorry to hear about your experiences with your service department. You know not all of the good mechanics are gone, they're still out there somewhere and what I mean by this is the grease monkeys who rely on feel and sound rather than a scan tool. It used to be, "Do what it takes to get it fixed"; but now it's "You've got one hour to find the problem and then move to the next repair order". Time is money and thats what it comes down to with most of the dealerships nowadays. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is the definition for intermitttent problems. Most service departments will tell you, "Just give us a call when it completely goes out on you". Brakes are considered a "Safety issue"!, and should NOT be taken lightly. Shame on You Bad Service Departments!:offtopic: :censor:

More like shame on Nissan USA for ignoring these issues. Their ignorance is trickled down to the dealerships, sales dept and unfortunately, even worse when it comes to their service dept.

Had the problem on my fathers Mada' and we changed the brake booster about 2 months ago as well and so far, after 6k miles we haven't encountered any problems with the brakes at all. Unfortunately there is no other way around this, you must buy and install a new "revised" brake booster. We had all the necessary recalls taken care of, even the ABS re-flash and it yielded no results.

I ordered mine from courtesyparts.com and the first one I got had one of the sensor tabs broken from shipping. Called them back and they sent a new one over night plus they even paid the return shipping on the broken one w/ no questions asked. They have great customer service over there and their prices are on point.

I am your usual DIY'er but I was lucky to have some of my gear head friends around to help me get the job done for a BBQ dinner and lots of beer :D Good luck and I give a big F U to Nissan for sweeping this problem under the rug.

...I give a big F U to Nissan for sweeping this problem under then rug.

LOL. This is classic sig material.

Although I had this issue possibly resolved with the re-flash a couple years back, just experiencing the incompetence of Nissan USA, several Nissan dealerships and service depts. was enough to convince me of looking elsewhere for future purchases.

Had the problem on my fathers Mada' and we changed the brake booster about 2 months ago as well and so far, after 6k miles we haven't encountered any problems with the brakes at all. Unfortunately there is no other way around this, you must buy and install a new "revised" brake booster. We had all the necessary recalls taken care of, even the ABS re-flash and it yielded no results.

I ordered mine from courtesyparts.com and the first one I got had one of the sensor tabs broken from shipping. Called them back and they sent a new one over night plus they even paid the return shipping on the broken one w/ no questions asked. They have great customer service over there and their prices are on point.

I am your usual DIY'er but I was lucky to have some of my gear head friends around to help me get the job done for a BBQ dinner and lots of beer :D Good luck and I give a big F U to Nissan for sweeping this problem under then rug.
"I give a big F U to Nissan for sweeping this problem under then rug." HAHA! +1 for me too.

now i am worried. my mada is 33800 Km and a month ago i had a problem with my rears, they completely locked up and i was running on them locked without knowing they were locked, i just noticed somthing burning when i was parked. the rotors were smoking and the calipers were deadlocked!

i had to call a mechanic to meet me in my location where he then bled the breaks and got the calipers replaced. so far so good. seems like this is the opposite problem of what you guys are experiencing.

now i am worried as i drive on mountain roads and heavy city traffic, dont want to have a situation where my breaks dont work, could be fatal, i dont want to wait for that to happen is there anything i can do? preventive maintenance or have the culprit part replaced as early as now?

is this an eventuality with all armadas? feels like im playing russian roulette. now im seriously worried

Unfortunately all manufacturers have issues and many sweep them under the rug. I just traded in my 08 BMW X5. It was leaking gas fumes. On multiple occasions the gas fumes filled my home after parking it in the garage not to mention I was driving around with it leaking. I went to BMW and their actual statement was "we recognize that this is a problem in warmer climates however we have no fix at this time. It is getting cooler so the problem should not happen again until it warms up again." Nice to send a customer out with a vehicle that could kill himself and his family.

With forums like these we can talk about the issues and identify them early.

Ive never had any issues like this. For all you bandwagoning folks: please realize this isn't something common at all i.e. standard practice

EVERY single vehicle manufactured will have issues at some point, some are common issues others are rare ones

I've had nothing but a great experience with Nissan

Invanity, Invanity, Invanity; You are my damn HERO! Thank you so much for putting this into real perspective. My 2006 4x4 Titan with over 50000 miles, no such problems. My now 2010 4x4 Mada- love this ride with 15000 and no problems; oh sorry just one, I can't stop having fun driving the thing!:D

Ive never had any issues like this. For all you bandwagoning folks: please realize this isn't something common at all i.e. standard practice

EVERY single vehicle manufactured will have issues at some point, some are common issues others are rare ones

I've had nothing but a great experience with NissanWhat's your point?

I also have a 2006 armada and the vdc off light and slip light came on i turned the car off and the lights were off when i turned it back on any suggestions

I also have a 2006 armada and the vdc off light and slip light came on i turned the car off and the lights were off when i turned it back on any suggestions

Call Nissan USA and open a case and tell them everything....get it logged! The more folks that do it the better!

I also have a 2006 armada and the vdc off light and slip light came on i turned the car off and the lights were off when i turned it back on any suggestions

Had this problem a while back and it took me a couple months to troubleshoot. VDC off and Slip lights on but only when my lights were turned on. They would stay on until I restarted the truck. Didn't notice this because I have my lights set to 'auto'. When the lights were triggered, the vdc/slip would light up. This also caused the truck to not want to downshift when accellerating, very strange! Traced it back to my rear function lights that had a faulty ground. Fixed that and everything is fine now.

Not saying this is the solution to the problem you're having but I would have never thought a light issue could cause such problems.

damn good to know

Welcome to CA lunk & martinez!