Just curious who's using a Tuner and what your results are, primarily looking at Miles per Tank results.

KnoxTitan posted that he's getting 55 miles per tank more after using his Superchips Cortex and he is lifted running on heavy 35" mud tires. From what I've been seeing, Bullydog is the only handheld unit that can adjust our timing. I'm trying to decide if to spend some birthday money on one and am having a hard time finding which one helps our fuel economy the best and has the best options but UpRev is outta my budget.

I had the bullydog and it worked great when I had my stock manifolds.
The superchips seems to be tuned a little more aggressive, thats maybe why you cant advance the timing!

I was wanting to buy yours but you sold it just in time. - haha!!

From my understanding, Bullydog added the T/A in an update per special requests. I'm gussing the others haven't gotten there yet. I only found Knox's post with actual numbers so I'm really curious if others are seeing the same results and what they are seeing with the BD. I know alot of the guys are buying for Performance gains but I'm thinking we might be seeing $5.00/gallon or more before too long and MPG concerns will increase.

Pops if you were here in NY... I would let you try out my bd so you can decide...honestly there is a lil gain but I can't tell...

I'm in the same boat. Is it worth $350 to buy the bully dog? I want better gas mileage. I have an 08 Armada. Armadad, are you saying you cant tell much difference in gas mileage? Looking for opinions.

Someone had posted their guess that you cannot use the Bullydog on more than one truck at a time. According to their post, they had read somewhere that the BD copies your ECM Flash onto it before it loads the new tune and you have to return your truck to stock that erases the BD copied flash on the handheld before it'll let a tune be uploaded onto a different ECM. But you can still adjust Timing, Speed Limiter, and Rev Limiter on other trucks and I think maybe on other Nissans too??

So, you haven't noticed much of an MPG gain, huh?? I wonder if the other handhelds like Superchips are gonna be found that way as more people use them.

Great Info guys.

Let's get this on a sticky q=)


Does anyone else have any info on the other tuners? I'm trying to Decide, like pops, which one will give me the best bang for the buck. Right now I'm leaning towards the Bullydog unit. I've had pretty good experience with their other tuners for diesel trucks.

Right now I'm looking at the BD powerpup and the UpRev Osiris.

I'm not sure I need all that tunabilty from the Osiris, but the option of being able to is nice. I kind of like the powerpup because its simple plug & play, and push of a button power/efficiency modes.

Great Info guys.

Let's get this on a sticky q=)


Does anyone else have any info on the other tuners? I'm trying to Decide, like pops, which one will give me the best bang for the buck. Right now I'm leaning towards the Bullydog unit. I've had pretty good experience with their other tuners for diesel trucks.

Right now I'm looking at the BD powerpup and the UpRev Osiris.

I'm not sure I need all that tunabilty from the Osiris, but the option of being able to is nice. I kind of like the powerpup because its simple plug & play, and push of a button power/efficiency modes.

The Bullydog is the best for the money. I've sold them all, and prefer the Bully dog. YES, YOU WILL GET BETTER GAS MILEAGE. On highway, you should get around 40+ more miles to a tank of gas. It does work!


http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/prodimages/titan_bully.jpg

Order link:

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_bullydog

i bought bullydog couble of weeks ago from Jason for my 2008 LE armada .
1-i disable the WOT
2- 2+ advance
3- hot tune
4- speed limits to the highest

i drove it for 1000 km the armada faster than before.
i tired to hit the limit i got 240 km which is = to 146 miles the reading of the speed i got it from the garmen GPS .

i bought bullydog couble of weeks ago from Jason for my 2008 LE armada .
1-i disable the WOT
2- 2+ advance
3- hot tune
4- speed limits to the highest

i drove it for 1000 km the armada faster than before.
i tired to hit the limit i got 240 km which is = to 146 miles the reading of the speed i got it from the garmen GPS .
The Armada doesn't have the WOT restriction like the Titan does. The stock unit has instant WOT, no delay.

146 mph???? That's insane!!!!! :eek: Be careful bro, one front tire blowout could end it all too fast!!!!

H&ly crap?! I barely drive that fast in my nsx. LOL


Hey forgive my ignorance.. but what does the acronym WOT stand for?

Wide Open Throttle. The 2WD Titans have it limited below 40-mph to prevent fishtailing so the guys look for anyway possible to remove it.

146:eek: WOW! Where do you live that you can pull that off. I did about 120 in my 1990 Mitsubishi Montero LS on the autobahn going down hill!

The Armada doesn't have the WOT restriction like the Titan does. The stock unit has instant WOT, no delay.


i found the opation and i disable it because i read on the titan forum that they disable when they use bullydog .. thanks for the info .



Pops i drove that fast just for testing not everyday ..

I'm not doggin' on you, just saying I wouldn't ever do it for any reason if I wanted to see my children grow up, that's all. That is VERY impressive though.

thanks for the great info. I think i will try the BD. Has anyone towed with it?

I have had the BD and have towed with it as well. No problems there.

If you do set the WOT I have noticed a significant difference. I know someone previously stated that it only affected 2wd Titans but when I first downloaded the BD I turned on the WOT. The throttle response was improved, the accelleration was different and the truck was deffinately more jumpy.

Last week I reprogrammed again and turned off the WOT and the truck is a bit more reserved. I have also noticed an increase in my MPG with the WOT off.

Overall I have been impressed with the BD and would recommend it.

Jason has been very helpful with Burman.

I have had the BD and have towed with it as well. No problems there.

If you do set the WOT I have noticed a significant difference. I know someone previously stated that it only affected 2wd Titans but when I first downloaded the BD I turned on the WOT. The throttle response was improved, the accelleration was different and the truck was deffinately more jumpy.

Last week I reprogrammed again and turned off the WOT and the truck is a bit more reserved. I have also noticed an increase in my MPG with the WOT off.

Overall I have been impressed with the BD and would recommend it.

Jason has been very helpful with Burman.
As I stated, the Armada does not have WOT restriction. In the past there was a debate about this, so I installed a mini video camera with a LED for illumination in the intake tube and made a video of the throttle while making WOT runs. The video (which was posted here and on ClubTitan) showed that the throttle butterfly on the Armadas went full open at the start, no delay.
The stock Armada and Titan does partially close the butterfly at the shift points when making a WOT run.

Well I can tell you this. I have run the vehicle with both WOT turned on and WOT turned off. It makes a difference on throttle response and sensativity and in MPG. I purchased the BD for MPG and with WOT on it did not improve my MPG with it off it did.

Thanks guys. Does anyone in Canada have the BD?

Thanks guys. Does anyone in Canada have the BD?

I've sold a few to Canada.

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/prodimages/titan_bully.jpg

Order link:

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_bullydog

what was the feedback? Did it work for our climate?

what was the feedback? Did it work for our climate?

I had one guy that does a lot of highway and he said it helped quite a bit. I sold about 6 to Titan owners, which is the same unit that the Armada uses, and all good feedback. The thing does work, and I've never had 1 return. I've sold over 125 of them for Titan/Armada's.

Wells is being months since I got the BD..Took a trip to florida and got 2 speeding tickets. Yes there is a power gain. Raced my cousin in his 08 Armada bone stock was not able to catch up. Off the line about 1 car ahead. Ohh and I'm running 23's wheels so is quite heavy.

The best part is running a 08 escalade for approximately 200 miles on the road..high speed his quick but not able to shake me away( With 5 passengers and a hold lot of luggage. On a stop I'm away till I reach 80 then he catches and goes..

As far as gas I do not know I'm running 93 octane with the premium tune. On the nav screen information says 13.1mpg. I feel her up almost 3-4 days a week depending on the way I drive it.

Wells is being months since I got the BD..Took a trip to florida and got 2 speeding tickets. Yes there is a power gain. Raced my cousin in his 08 Armada bone stock was not able to catch up. Off the line about 1 car ahead. Ohh and I'm running 23's wheels so is quite heavy.

The best part is running a 08 escalade for approximately 200 miles on the road..high speed his quick but not able to shake me away( With 5 passengers and a hold lot of luggage. On a stop I'm away till I reach 80 then he catches and goes..

As far as gas I do not know I'm running 93 octane with the premium tune. On the nav screen information says 13.1mpg. I feel her up almost 3-4 days a week depending on the way I drive it.

Hehe, sound like you are having fun...

Do any of the tuners work for 04's or are they all for 05 and up? Been away from the site for a while and I'm excited to see that more products are being released:)

Superchips Cortex is the only one I know of that does right now. Great tuner IMO.

Hate to ask, but what does that tuner offer? Increased HP? MPG? Any ideas on the numbers if they do? I've been getting around 12 mpg since I did the mini-lift and open country's:(

Here's MPG: http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12629

I've stopped keeping track because we're on winter blend fuel here now.

Thanks for the info, Pops. I may go with upgrading the exhaust first...Time to go and find those threads again:)

The Bullydog is the best for the money. I've sold them all, and prefer the Bully dog. YES, YOU WILL GET BETTER GAS MILEAGE. On highway, you should get around 40+ more miles to a tank of gas. It does work!


http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/prodimages/titan_bully.jpg

Order link:

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_bullydog

The above fits 05-09 trucks. If you have an 04, I also have the Cortex, shoot an email or call, as we don't hav eit on the site yet, but have them in stock.

You might see if Burtman can find a JBA Catback for you. JBA seems to give the best performance on the Titan but I don't know if they make one for the Armada or not.

You might see if Burtman can find a JBA Catback for you. JBA seems to give the best performance on the Titan but I don't know if they make one for the Armada or not.

I do have it! ANd it's at a special price. And this is FULL STAINLESS, not aluminized!

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_jba_04_up

I do have it! ANd it's at a special price. And this is FULL STAINLESS, not aluminized!

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_jba_04_up

THAT's the way to go Jak!!!!! Look around and do your homework but I think you'll likely find the others don't touch this JBA system for performance. $380 sounds like a good price to me too, definitelty keep this one on the top of your list. I know this will be top on my list when my muffler goes out. :thumbup:

Better sound and perfomance than the Gibson?

Definitely better performance. Sound is a matter of opinion. It's quiet when idling and roars at WOT. The fastest Titan in Okla has this JBA exhaust on, I've driven it, and it's awesome!!!!

Also, the superchips website doesn't say anything about it working with an '04. Are you sure it will work? Also, Jason is your price more expensive than that of the superchips group buy?

http://www.superchips.com/products.php?p_cat=123&cname=Nissan+%2F+Infiniti+Applications

Superchips First Import Application The Cortex® release for the Nissan Titan, Armada, Infiniti QX56, Frontier and Pathfinder is ideal for the enthusiast looking for more exciting on-road, off-road, and towing Performance. Coverage as follows 2004 – 2007 Titan, Armada and QX56 with 5.6L. 2005-2007 Frontier and Pathfinder with 4.0L This product is now shipping.

has any one UPREV that he bought BD with it?like my case. will it affect uprev or it will work side to side? i like how small it is and don't have to use the laptop.

It'll undo alot of the changes that Uprev makes. Basically, it takes your existing map and saves it to the handheld named "Stock", then uploads its preprogrammed settings to the ECU.

Your Long Tube headers are gonna be the problem. Whichever one you decide on, make sure it's compatible with those LT's or otherwise it'll hurt more than help.

Another question, Pops. Will the superchips still be as effective if the exhaust and intake has been upgraded? The reason I ask is because I assume that the maps created are setup to be used with a stock vehicle...Thoughts?

I honestly don't know. Mine are stock with just the Airbox Mod and K&N filter. I would assume it'd help with the changes that are made but I don't know exactly what all is changed in the maps. Scott might have an idea if you ask him.

What's Scott's screen name?

NM, you're talking about Scott at Superchips I assume?

Another question, Pops. Will the superchips still be as effective if the exhaust and intake has been upgraded? The reason I ask is because I assume that the maps created are setup to be used with a stock vehicle...Thoughts?


I replied to your PM. Yes the cortex will work with CAI and exhaust upgrades, including headers, according to Scott. I have volant CAI and Nismo s-tune catback exhaust and it is friggin sweet. Plan to get JBA headers soon as my engine warranty expires.

NM, you're talking about Scott at Superchips I assume?
Yep.... Sorry for not clarifying. BigRiver knows alot about them too.

isn't uprev gonna make a handheld programer?

Yea, but from what I've seen, it also looks like they'll probably be charging out the :moon: for it too.

but it should not be costly for the customers who already have uprev software.. i think we will be only charged for the handheld only,,,, may be 500$ for it....lol

Does anyone know if Superchips will be releasing a 93 octane map? I wonder if more could be squeezed out of our engines if we run 93 as opposed to just 91....

I used to run 93 oct in my old Z-28 and it kept blowing some of the emissions tubing every few months due to the additional heat being generated. It was a cheap part and easy to replace so I still used 93 oct every once in awhile at the track to clean the motor out then replace that POS tube after racing. 93oct at WOT really cleans out the iron, but I would think it might possibly warp some aluminum just from my experience with it, but I could be wrong. With our engines being mostly aluminum, I'd check with the Service Techs before running it for any extensive amount of time.

Scott@Superchips would be your best answer, I'd send him a PM.

Interesting. I used to have a WRX wagon that was turbo'd(i know, they all are) but I ran 93 in that all the time with no problems. Sometimes if I had a wild hair, I would put 94 in it from Sunoco...

Maybe it was 94. Sunoco was the only place that carried it and it smelled sweet, not like regular gas.

i bought bullydog couble of weeks ago from Jason for my 2008 LE armada .
1-i disable the WOT
2- 2+ advance
3- hot tune
4- speed limits to the highest

i drove it for 1000 km the armada faster than before.
i tired to hit the limit i got 240 km which is = to 146 miles the reading of the speed i got it from the garmen GPS .


What Garmin GPS do you have? Because as far as the website says they all MAX out at 90 MPH...

FYI guys, the Superchips Cortex does NOT currently work on an '04 Armada. I rcv'd mine today only to find out that the maps are not the same for mine as they are for an '05 and up. I've emailed Scott at Superchips to find out what I should do from here, but I just figured you guys might like to know.

Hmmmm... It says it does on their site:

http://www.superchips.com/products.php?p_cat=123&cname=Nissan+%2F+Infiniti+Applications


Just in case, you did run updates, didn't you?? FWIW, they didn't have mine either. Took about 1-week for it to be included with the update. I opened a Support Case online and Scott took care of letting them know for me and followed through with it.

Great, thanks for the info Pop. And yes, I updated before I even put it in the truck. Once in the truck I got a message stating it needed to be updated so I brought it back in, it uploaded my current setup and then I got message saying none was available. Hopefully Scott can hook me up because I'd be dissapointed if I have to send this back:(

He got mine added after I sent him an e-mail with the info so hang in there. :)

Finally got my cortex upgraded yesterday:) Loaded the performance map on my truck and can DEFINITELY tell that's there is considerably more pep in the lower RPM range(I always felt my truck was a little sluggish in this range). As far as the product is concerned, I would give Superchips an A, customer service on the other hand is more in the C-D range. They never followed up with me as they said they would and I ended up always calling them.

I am happy to hear that your programmer is worhing for you now and I apologize for poor experience with our customer service. I will make it a point to refer this info to the manager in efforts to improve our service to you in the future.

Please also check your PM for a message from me.

Scott

Thanks Scott, I responded to your pm.