With the summer here and the temps above 90 it doesn't seem like the a/c system is working as well as it should. On the warmer days 90 and above it seems to take a good 5 minutes before the air blowing out is as cold as it should be. This doesn't seem normal to me. My other vehicles I have owned had cold air pumping out right now. I know on hotter days it will take longer for the whole cabin to cool down thats expected but the air blowing out should still be cool pretty quick. Any ideas or suggestions?

I'm in So. Fla. and I noticed that myself yesterday...

You're right, the first time I started the truck it took about 10-12 minutes before the air was "cold".
Later in the day it seemed to be better.....
I don't know what to tell ya... I thought about mentioning it to the dealer tomorrow when I'm there for my replacement cat converter and the first brake situation...
I'm only at 2600 miles and this is getting old quickly, all of these problems lol

Here in Tucson, AZ 115 and it take me a good 2-3 miles to get cooled down. But if I jump on the freeway it seems cool of faster. Stop and go does not help, but once it gets going I have to turn it down to about the 2nd or 3rd click

Could it be the new style freon? It's been very hot here lately in southeast Texas, and it does take a while for the A/C to cool. I crank up my rear air as well.

It is a big vehicle and will take a while, but my old Tahoe's A/C was way better than the Armada.

I just spent 4 days in the 100-115 degree range. I had the front and rear A/C on full. As long as I was moving, it would cool down in a few minutes. (not too cold, just cool) But when I stopped at a red light, it would start blowing warm air.

Then I switched it to recirculate and it cooled down a bit.

I just had the dealer check mine last week and it was fully charged.

Even putting it on MAX AIR? Mine does better on Max Air and then I can lower it.

When I take mine in to get the "brake job" I'm having it recharged too. The AC never ran cold & I only found out now since it's the first summer. I hope it's not an issue.

Even putting it on MAX AIR? Mine does better on Max Air and then I can lower it.

I put mine on Max Air and it actually started to warm up. Beats me????
I think Max Air is the same as setting #4 with the recirc button on.

Wow,
At least I'm not alone... It definetly does not blow "cold" all the time...
does take a while and even then its not really cold...

I know they're going to tell me tomorrow at the dealer that it is working fine, then its your word against theirs lol

I'll post their response tomorrow....
maybe if enough of us complain, Nissan will do something...

R-134 sucks. Try starting out on recirc and see what that does for you.

MMMMMM? Another MADA MYSTERY?!

Aye,

The only thing a miss about the 97 Suburban is the AC. Remember Air Conditioning "removes" heat (while circulating the air). The Mada is a 5600lb heat rock when it is sitting in the sun, it's going to take a while to suck all the heat out of the "Beast". Recirculate, turn that right front passenger vent right at your face, and hit on open road if possible! :cool:

Onward Club Armada!

shouldn't have to do any of that.
The air out of the vent should be cold right away...
doesn't matter that it is a big cabin or a big truck.

The air out of the vent should be cold..lol


just chalk it up as another issue that Nissan needs to address....

shouldn't have to do any of that.
The air out of the vent should be cold right away...
doesn't matter that it is a big cabin or a big truck.

The air out of the vent should be cold..lol


just chalk it up as another issue that Nissan needs to address....

The A/C can't make instant cold air in very hot weather. The A/C is taking in the air from inside the cabin or outside air, depending on if Rec. is selected or not. The hot air is drawn through the evaporator and the temp is lowered by an amount depending on intake air temp.
Look at the attached table. If the air temp entering the evaporator is 104 (common when a closed vehicle has been in the sun) then the discharge temp will be 72-85, depending on humidity. If the incoming air is 86 then the discharge temp will be 57-66.

Blackrain is right about the Armada (or any big vehicle) being a big heat sink. All that interior must be cooled down.

Thank you.
I do understand.

All I'm saying is that even when not on recirculate, then matters are really bad, the air is actually hot.

Also, sometimes the air is cold right away, and other times it takes 10-15 minutes.

When they gave me a loaner car this morning for the first brake fix along with other problems, I jumped in this honda truck and believe me it is steaming hot here, Miami FLa, the air was ice cold as soon as i started the car. My last car, Infiniti FX, same thing, car before, MB C class, same thing, no matter how hot the car or outside temp was, the air coming from the vent was cold. If it's not on recirculate, it doesn't matter the temp of the air in the car right? Am I missing something?

All I'm saying is that sometimes it seems to cool ok (not great) and sometimes very bad....

Wasn't this bad when I first bought the truck 3 weeks ago?
Was the same temp then outside...

I'm sorry, I guess I just needed to vent some.
Since I bought this truck (which I do love) 3 weeks and 2700 miles ago, I have been in for service now 3 times, to include:

Bad Brake judder/rotors,
Bad ABS sensor
Bad Airbag sensor in dash,
Door handle broke,
Alignment is off,
Had to replace a cat. converter because the shield came loose and makes a horrible noise all day,
Hinges of rear gate are rusted,
and the A/c doesn't cool right all the time.

The A/C wouldn't be such a big deal and it probably isn't, if I had no other problems. Look at the list above, this is all within 3 weeks... I think it's a bit much for a $34000 brand new truck no?

Yes my Armada is Galaxy(black), but do you other owners feel that the Armada gets really hot inside? It may be 80 degrees outside, and when I get in the car, it's is roasting inside. I'm wondering if tinting the windows will help. I've already got a window shade in the front up.
My other cars parked right next to the Armada are a lot cooler inside. Weird.

I had a black truck a couple of years ago and although I love the look, I would never do it again. Living in Tucson, AZ is not the place for black. When I bought my that truck the dealer tried to tell me that they did a test on all colors by putting thermometers in the ashtrays and they all came out with the same temp - so black didn't get hotter- BS!!!

I have the Gold Mada and it gets hot also but not that hot. I agree with everyone regarding the AC. My last vehicle was an Olds Bravada SUV and it had an AC to die for..

The Armada is also tall inside so it takes awhile for the air to get to top to cool the entire space. I found that if I put it on recirculate, full blast, open the little wing windows or the back windows slightly to pull the heat out, it helps a lot. What bothers me most about the whole AC issue is when you are moving slow or sitting at a light, it shouldn't get warm and it does!

RA :eek:

amen

how do ya open those rear wing windows without getting out? LOL

With the summer here and the temps above 90 it doesn't seem like the a/c system is working as well as it should. On the warmer days 90 and above it seems to take a good 5 minutes before the air blowing out is as cold as it should be. This doesn't seem normal to me. My other vehicles I have owned had cold air pumping out right now. I know on hotter days it will take longer for the whole cabin to cool down thats expected but the air blowing out should still be cool pretty quick. Any ideas or suggestions?
I just wanted to say thanks for all the responses. I would have rather heard that everyone's a/c was working great. Now it sounds like we just have to live with the poor performance unless Nissan figures something out. Hopefully they do. :hothot:

BTW,
Tinting the windows does help. Not only did I tint the two front windows, pretty dark, I also had them throw a layer of light tint over the rest of the windows that were already tinted (somewhat) from the dealer. It did help quite a bit.

not to mention, you don't want people peeking at the inside of your precious (Mada) and looking around lol !!

I'm in Phoenix and have 16K on my '04. The air blows at 45 degrees when outside temp is below 95. As the outside temp heats up, the car will not cool. It helps to get moving, the air will cool down some, 60-70 degrees from the vents. It also helps to move faster than 35 mph for a few miles. If I slow down, I heat up again. Yesterday my 3 year old asked me to cool her down when we got home; we were in the car for 15 minutes - outside temp was 110. Nissan admitted a problem after 5 trips to dealer. They said they are producing an updated fan clutch (part #716132). I'm been waiting for 4 weeks now.

Please let us know if/when you get the new part. My little stripped out Focus has way better A/C than my $40k SUV. :(

Nice...

The dealer last week told me it was working fine and that they tested it and temp. reading was fine. I still beg to differ, this aint normal and I'm glad someone else found it to be true.

I hope that part does help somehow and please post if they ever do fix it for ya.

I've only had ours for a week, and I think the air sucks. The only way to get it cold is to run it on re-circulate when you’re not driving fast.

Even when you put the AIR on MAX AIR? I find if you do that first it is FINE.

I haven't had any problems with my A/C cooling well. I live on the Texas gulf coast, the temps have been 95+ for the last three weeks, with humidity in the 60 t0 95% range, about the worse conditions for the A/C. I leave it on Recirc. most of the time. I put the fan on 2 or 3 to cool it down, then most of the time run the fan on 1. Most of the time I don't use the rear A/C since it is just me in the vehicle. If I have someone in the back I set the controls to the rear. I have never had anyone in the car with me complain about it being too hot; the only comments I get are that it is too cool!

Hey scr,

Like you, I'm right here on the Gulf Coast in southeast Texas (outside Beaumont)

Mine is fine as long as I leave it on recirc. and crank it up. It definitely is not up to par with other vehicles I've had in the past though. My Tahoe was great, my little Focus will freeze me out, but my Armada is average at best. The only thing I can think is that it's the new style freon they're using? Who knows.....

Well guess once again I am not alone in the problems with this HUNK OF JUNK.....

I live in Las Vegas where it is always over 110 in the summer. The air does not work at all when it is over 100 or the stupid truck has been sitting most of the day in 100 degree weather. I have tried every setting, driven it for over 15miles and for as long as 30min in rush hour traffic and not had the air conditioning work just blow hot air while I sweltered in that blast furnace. It piss'es me off to see a $9,000 hyundai accent pass by with the passengers reveling in the passion of air conditioned comfort, while I drive a $45,000 SUV and sweat like a pig!!!!!!!!!!!

Between the brakes, fuel gages, rattles, air conditioning, etc... and Lord know what else is to come.. I am trading for a GMC (What I had before) ..

Sorry for ranting.. JUST REALLY PISSED OFF AND TIRED!!

I walked out to my Armada today and when I got in the temp outside said 116 F. Within 3 minutes I was comfortable and cruising down the road. My A/C works very good in my Mada.

Has anyone taken there armada to the dealer to see what they say :confused:

I went to the dealer and they told me they tested the temp, etc and that it was normall.. the cabin and the dash are big, blah , blah , blah.


very funny thing happened today though, as I had it on full blast, the fan I mean, all of a sudden it clicked down a notch or two and now it doesn't blow nearly as hard. I'm almost afraid to go back to the dealer because they look at me now like im crazy as it is. If I'm wrong for some reason, won't be good. lol

I don't think I imagined what happened, but without another one to compare it to, its kinda hard to tell.

Has anyone had a problem with the fan motor or fan clutch or something along those lines???

Thanks.

Do you have the auto A/C? It changes blower speeds automataically.

It's been about 110 - 115 here in Vegas and the air conditioner issue was very evident during the past week. I took the Mada in last Tuesday and had the air conditioner recharged. That did not solve the problem. On Saturday when I was running errands throughout town, I could not stand the hot air blowing through the cabin for 10-15 minutes each time I started the Mada so I drove it straight to the dealership so they could feel the hot air blowing on their face. Supposely Nissan is having issues with a the new air conditioner compressor which are not only in the Madas but also other models. Also, they are using a new type of freon (environment friendly) which takes much longer to cool than the older version that is making the hole in the ozone layer larger. The Mada is going back in the shop again tomorrow for the technician to take another look. It does not sound like there is an immediate fix. The service rep did say to keep it on recirculate and keep the level at 3 and turn off the rear air until the cold air is consistent. I tried that theory the rest of the week and it helped, but it was still uncomfortable for a good 5-10 minutes until it cooled down. The problem is worse when you are driving through town through traffic (stop and go at lights). If you can get on the freeway or don't catch any red lights, it tends to cool down sooner. I'll let you know if it gets any better tomorrow.

FYI - Another thing which I discovered this weekend was that the dealership that I purchased my Mada from will not guaranty the window tinting on the front windows due to the curvature in the window. The curve will scratch the tint.

SCR,

I don't remember the a/c doing that before.
I keep it on MaX AC, full fan. That's when I noticed it has kicked down about 2 notches, as far as how hard the air is blowing now.

I know you think I"m crazy with these silly things but I'm not imagining it lol.

I don't think it has auto for the speed of the fan. If left on Max and fan on full, it should stay on full.

As for the air being cold. Armada girl, you are right. I have noticed same. Seems to be a bit better now, I don't know why.... If the stupid fan would just stay on full blast, would make me happy..

And my dealer did tell me the same thing... don't put it on full fan speed as then the air goes through the thing quicker, not cooling as much... I'm no mechanic so please excuse the language lol. Does seem to work.. at slower fan speeds, the air is a bit cooler when starting the truck at first... doesn't really help the problem though as I need the thing on full blast plus 2 speeds now that it doesn't go to the true full speed ...

hope some of this makes sense, and I hope to hear someone else with some type of similar problem.

Here's the scoop that my service manager here in Phoenix told me. Since it has been about 115 in AZ the last couple of weeks the dealership has been fielding a lot of complaints about the A/C in the Armada. My A/C works at first and the starts blowing HOT air and then gets cold. The dealership said that Nissan only tested the A/C to 109 degrees and now are starting to see an issue with the A/C since it has been so hot. I guess there were earlier complaints about A/C and nissan was going to release the review saying there was nothing wrong with the A/C, but now my service guy said they are probably going to issue a new TSB. This is what he told me: 1)they would replace something on the A/C compressor to ensure it stays engaged 2) replace the condensor seals 3) put a more powerful blower (since the original one is weak for an SUV this size) 4) reprogram the computer to idle at a higher RPM so the A/C stays cold when in stop and go traffic.

Now, this is what he told me so who knows. He did say he would get parts for me though. Still waiting!!! Hope this is all true, 115 and now humidity. Nice.

Sometimes my A/C is freezing cold, and sometimes its blows.
It's random. I hope there really is a TSB or something soon. Summer will be over in a month or two.
Realistically, let's hope by next summer.

Here's the scoop that my service manager here in Phoenix told me. Since it has been about 115 in AZ the last couple of weeks the dealership has been fielding a lot of complaints about the A/C in the Armada. My A/C works at first and the starts blowing HOT air and then gets cold. The dealership said that Nissan only tested the A/C to 109 degrees and now are starting to see an issue with the A/C since it has been so hot. I guess there were earlier complaints about A/C and nissan was going to release the review saying there was nothing wrong with the A/C, but now my service guy said they are probably going to issue a new TSB. This is what he told me: 1)they would replace something on the A/C compressor to ensure it stays engaged 2) replace the condensor seals 3) put a more powerful blower (since the original one is weak for an SUV this size) 4) reprogram the computer to idle at a higher RPM so the A/C stays cold when in stop and go traffic.

Now, this is what he told me so who knows. He did say he would get parts for me though. Still waiting!!! Hope this is all true, 115 and now humidity. Nice.

Let us know if you get it fixed by your dealer. I too am having the same problem.

I thought it was just the fan on the coils wasnt pulling enough air across the coils to keep them from overheating.

What dealership in AZ are you going to?

What dealership in AZ are you going to?
ABC Nissan

I'm in Las Vegas too, and mine seems to be working ok. The only issue I have with it is that we were driving on a 700 + mile trip from Albquerque, NM to Dallas, TX and the A/C quit blowing cold air with about 80 miles left. I turned the temp down to 60 and all it did was blow harder. The temp wasn't a full on outside temp hot, but the effeciency went down so much, that it automatically switched to recirc to keep up. It stayed like this until we parked in Dallas. The next morning, I took it to one of the dealers here and they said the freon was low approx. a 1/2 pound, but it did pressure check good. The evac'd it, pressure checked it, and recharged to full. Seems good now. I'll post something after I get to San Antonio or when I get all the way back to Vegas.

Im in the same boat. In town my AC sux....wont pull down past 60 degrees coming out of the front vents and the rear vents wont pull down lower than 70 deg. I love my Armada but I am sick of ALL the issues. Heat index here is 115....but all my other vehicles cool just fine.

With the summer here and the temps above 90 it doesn't seem like the a/c system is working as well as it should. On the warmer days 90 and above it seems to take a good 5 minutes before the air blowing out is as cold as it should be. This doesn't seem normal to me. My other vehicles I have owned had cold air pumping out right now. I know on hotter days it will take longer for the whole cabin to cool down thats expected but the air blowing out should still be cool pretty quick. Any ideas or suggestions?
It's 110 in the desert here in CA. I usually go full A/C and turn on the rear fan as well. Takes about 3 minutes to cool the car down (I have the leather interior so it gets hot pretty quick).

My A/C works great until I hit a red light or traffic, then the air get warm and humid. Then once I get going again, It starts to cool down again.

Have you verified if you are using the recycled inside air or pulling the air from outside. It seems if you are recycling the air then it works better. Also is there any chance the cabin's micro filter could be causing any problems? not sure if it is possible since I haven't looked at how the A/C is designed in there, but just a thought.

With the summer here and the temps above 90 it doesn't seem like the a/c system is working as well as it should. On the warmer days 90 and above it seems to take a good 5 minutes before the air blowing out is as cold as it should be. This doesn't seem normal to me. My other vehicles I have owned had cold air pumping out right now. I know on hotter days it will take longer for the whole cabin to cool down thats expected but the air blowing out should still be cool pretty quick. Any ideas or suggestions?
Well here we go, I guess we were on to something.

http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership/Bulletins/Nissan/2005/NTB05-065.htm
:excellent

Well, finally Nissan admitted the issue. I will be getting mine fixed as soon as dealer has the counter parts. Per my previous post, I will also let you know what they actually fix or replace. I will post ASAP after fix and let you guys know if it works. Also, I am finally getting the brakes fixed today! :goodjob:

Did this TSB just come out? This is exactly what my Armada does. Thanks for posting it.

I live in Yuma, Arizona and I noticed this right away. Just bought the Mada three weeks ago and really love it. Because of this forum I am going to take it to the dealership to get the A/C issue taken care of.

I'll keep an eye on mine. Its been fine so far however. In fact, today I had to lower the fan because it was getting too cold inside with the outside temp reading 96 degrees. ;)

Wow, I'm glad there is a TSB for this issue now. I had this problem last year but no one seemed to believe me and the dealer couldn't replicate it.

One interesting thing to note is if you read the owners manual, there is a section in there which states that in extreme temperatures the A/C will automatically disengage to drop the vehicel temp and once that temp is reached the A/C kicks on again. And the note stated that this happens automatically even if the A/C is on and activated. I always just brushed it off and figured that's what the case was, even though I thought that there is no way my car was coming close to running high enough temps for this to happen. Anyway I'm glad that I can take it in next time and have this issue resolved as well. :D

Thats exactly the answer I got from my last trip to the dealer:

"Couldn't duplicate problem, A/C is cooling fine, We hooked it up to the machine to test the temp. and it was fine"

I also got the answer on the pulling to the right:

"couldn't duplicate, must be crowned roads".

They are just sick of me being there every 2 weeks, but I will never give up.

My brakes just started juddering, again and I"m only at 5500 miles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's twice in 5500 miles ... Kind of upsetting, and I'm not on any list yet for new rotors. They told me after this next time of resurfacing the rotors, that I will be added to the list to then wait for parts. We shall see.

As far as the A/C, I'm going to print the TSB and stuff it in the managers face, as he came out to tell me the a/c is fine on my last visit. Eat this TSB and fix the dam problem!!

Took the beast in and had it checked per the new tsb. When I called the dealership and told the service writer about the tsb he pretty much told me I did not know what I was talking about and this was the first he had heard of the problem. He told me I could bring it by and wait cause it wouldn't take that long to check it out. What the hell. First of all, why do we the owners know about this shtuff before the damn service writers and people at the dealership. It is their job to service their product and know them inside and out. You would think that when a new tsb comes out there would be a little bit of communication to inform everyone in the service department. It can't be that tough. Second of all how the hell is this guy going to tell me, "oh it won't take long", he didn't even know what the damn problem was. Needless to say when I dropped it off I had a printout of the tsb and handed it to him. Of course I didn't wait. Good thing cause I dropped it off at 7:00 am and didn't hear back from them until 2:00, but it won't take long. Regardless of my frustration they did verify the problem and I am expecting they will have the parts sometime this week. I will post the results hopefully before the end of the week. When I picked up the beast the service writer didn't exactly say, hey man I was wrong but he sort of eluded to that.

Sorry for the long post but this isn't the first time I have told them about a tsb and it was the first they had apparently heard about it.

:machinegu

I just got my 05 LE smoked mada manufactured in June of 05.. The AC runs perfectly fine on our tank, most of the time we have to lower the a/c to 1 click.. I am hoping that this will maintain throughout the summer..

Do you guys have the a/c on? as in not just the fan but the a/c.. I have noticed after playing with the a/c system.. the a/c can be very easily mistakenly turned off, with just the fan turned on.

Please humor me on this.
How do you verify the issue if the surrounding temperature is not in triple digits? My Mada LE was build in 01/05 and so far I have not seen the issue because the temperature here has not been that hot.

Example, it was 103 yesterday, I'm driving with A/C on 4 (hi) and fresh, it's sort of cold, but not cooling down the interior too fast.
After 10 minutes of driving, it's nice and cool inside.
As soon as I hit a red light, and stop, I can feel the air turning from cool and dry, to not as cool and damp/humid. I can feel the air get sticky in literally 30 seconds of stopping.

Something is shutting down at idle.

Thanks. I will pay attention to it.


Example, it was 103 yesterday, I'm driving with A/C on 4 (hi) and fresh, it's sort of cold, but not cooling down the interior too fast.
After 10 minutes of driving, it's nice and cool inside.
As soon as I hit a red light, and stop, I can feel the air turning from cool and dry, to not as cool and damp/humid. I can feel the air get sticky in literally 30 seconds of stopping.

Something is shutting down at idle.

There's a new AC TSB out for Armadas built before 3-05. I'm having the 30K service done on mine ('04) and I mentioned all the issues you have been having with the AC. Of course, the first answer I got was...this is normal for a big vehicle....blah...blah...blah. I mentioned the TSB and they said they haven't heard of it yet. I'll see in a couple of days if they give me the run around on this issue too. Let's hope not.

Wow, I have that problem as well. It takes a while to kick in. It definetly kicks in big time on the freeway but when I am at a long stop light and its 100 degress I find myself burning up in the Armada.

I am dropping it off Friday morning. Will follow up with the results.

Well I printed the TSB and brought it with me last visit.

I insisted that they check it out for real this time lol.

They told me that they re-programmed the ecm or something, seems to have helped. Gets cold quicker now and seems to stay cold. Fan still acting up sometimes but at least it's cold air.

Guess that's as good as its going to get.

I could not agree more. I live in Scottsdale and drove to Tucson yesterday.

I was so concerned that I called the dealer who was pleasant enough, but went straight to the "it's REALLY hot right now, we have unusual humidity and the Armada has a large cabin" card. Not a great expanation.

They should do a silent recall and make it right. These are not frigging Ford Escapes (that probably have better air).

Amen,

It was very hot today and I don't think they did a thing yesterday in service. I had to start it today and wait for the wife for about 5-6 mintues to get in the car... It DID NOT cool down until I started driving and then it took about another 5 mintues.. IT'S NOT NORMAL NISSAN !!

My wifes volvo truck is cold instantly and its sitting in the same heat !!!

It really does annoy me ...

At least I got the new brakes.. guess one thing at a time lol

hated

I had the Nissan fix, which hasnt changed much in high ambient temperature. In stop/go travel or long road trip, the a/c doesnt chill but air but merely recirculates it. I'm going back

The dealership performed the tsb on Friday so I have not had much time to tell if there is much difference in cooling. With the little bit of driving we did this weekend it did seem better. Another hot one this week so we will see. I attached some pictures of the new parts that were installed. The new fan coupling, not sure how this helps. The new electric fan, it looks as though the fan has a different blade design and larger motor. It must pump out more air.

Thanks for the pics! This will give me an idea of what to look for after I drop mine off for this TSB.

I remember complaining about a year ago to my worthless dealer about the A/C and I got the "it's normal" response. I told the guy I couldnt' believe my base Ford Focus had A/C that was so much better than my $40k Nissan. He just shrugged.

If there are any southeast Texans here, don't ever go to Twin City for anything. They suck ***. :)

they told me they re-programed the ecm. and that the other one didn't apply to mine, built in April 05. No difference, still doesn't cool.

Was bad today (in s.fla), very hot out and it does not cool when ideling, especially at first start up... very annoying.

The dealership performed the tsb on Friday so I have not had much time to tell if there is much difference in cooling. With the little bit of driving we did this weekend it did seem better. Another hot one this week so we will see. I attached some pictures of the new parts that were installed. The new fan coupling, not sure how this helps. The new electric fan, it looks as though the fan has a different blade design and larger motor. It must pump out more air.

I noticed yesterday that the new electric fan is much quieter than the old one. Idling in 95 degree weather yesterday the system did cool better.

My dealer told me that that fan fix doesn't apply to mine vehicle.......

But I really think it does, even though the TSB doesn't apply... They also told me I had the new rotors... lol

yea, now I do, after 2 trips for brake repairs lol

any suggestions on how to get them to replace that for me??

My A/C definetely does not cool upon ide... help...

I had this problem worst in my 2005 Pathfinder...took almost 10 min or more to cool down in town....My new Armada is a little better...The A/C in my 2001 S-10 works better and the A/C in the 04 Tahoe I had cooled down right away...So the thing about Armada being bigger and take more time to cool down is BS!

The fix described in the TSB really does work. I had mine fixed about a week ago, and the cool down is much faster, even at idle. All in all the AC is working more efficiently and the air is colder.

Ken

The dealership performed the tsb on Friday so I have not had much time to tell if there is much difference in cooling. With the little bit of driving we did this weekend it did seem better. Another hot one this week so we will see. I attached some pictures of the new parts that were installed. The new fan coupling, not sure how this helps. The new electric fan, it looks as though the fan has a different blade design and larger motor. It must pump out more air.

Thanks for the pics (me, too). That fan (it's down in the front of the radiator, right?) is vibrating when it runs. I believe it runs to help cool the radiator when ambient temp is high (who knows what temp?). Even though the mounting nut has been tightened, my fan is loose. AND I have had some similar issues with the AC not cooling enough. I am hot-blooded and ALWAYS have that issue (no matter what vehicle I'm in) so I didnt' really see a problem. I'm in BAKErsfield (pun intended) and we have been seeing 100+ temps for weeks now, so it's been an issue.

Thanks for the lengthy posts on your problems - helps me to get some help from the dealer when I can use your words of wisdom.

Well, finally Nissan admitted the issue. I will be getting mine fixed as soon as dealer has the counter parts. Per my previous post, I will also let you know what they actually fix or replace. I will post ASAP after fix and let you guys know if it works. Also, I am finally getting the brakes fixed today! :goodjob:
As promised, the fix is done and the A/C is great. 100+ and still keeps her cold. Finally, no more TSB's for me at this point. I think I have had everything fixed. :D

As promised, the fix is done and the A/C is great. 100+ and still keeps her cold. Finally, no more TSB's for me at this point. I think I have had everything fixed. :D

Congratulation ! For me, my nightmare has just begun. I found out that my Armada was built in 1/05. I only have 1,200 miles on it. I have noticed the AC cooling issue but the weather was not hot enough to make it consistent. The brake is too early to tell. I am taking my MADA on vacation next month. I will find out. The shimmy effect is still there but very minor after I swapped the front tires with the rear. More worms to discover as the mileage build up.

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So once the AC TSB is applied how good is the Mada AC?

Has anyone stuck a digital thermometer in one of the vents and measured the temp? Even if it's 100F outside it should be cycling between 51-56F when crusing on the highway (it should never reach 60).

How does AC performance at idle hold up? Maybe 57-62 at 100F outside temp?

I'm kinda hot blooded, and live in Dallas (would move if I could!), so anything less than great AC is a deal-breaker. I really don't want to get a Sequoia... :eek:

Any hard info appreciated...

I just had mine done and the AC is still pathetic. 62-65 degree range while moving in town. I have not checked the reatr vents yet but I bet they are a full 10 degrees cooler. Update: 8/19 Checked my rear vents last night, at idle they are blowing 77 degrees!

I just bought a new 2005 Xterra (6 days old). My initial impression of the A/C unit was that it was WEAK. It's interesting to read all of your comments. It seems my X is having the same problems. There has been no TSB for the X yet. I'm going to print out the Armada TSB, and show it to a service guy. I'm sure I'll get the old mubojumbo from them, "Blah blah blah, go pound sand, blah!". I have another conversion going on a Xterra forum about my issue. Again, it was refreshing to find this forum talking about the same issues. I learned alot here. I'm going to continue reading your posts to see if I have similar issues with my X. Even though they are different vehicles they may share some of the same components.

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Thanks for the pics. I'vve noticed my 2005 does not blow much air out, and the air is not as cold as my other vehicles. I'll use your pics and the TSB info to see if I should take mine in. Thanks again.

So once the AC TSB is applied how good is the Mada AC?

Has anyone stuck a digital thermometer in one of the vents and measured the temp? Even if it's 100F outside it should be cycling between 51-56F when crusing on the highway (it should never reach 60).

How does AC performance at idle hold up? Maybe 57-62 at 100F outside temp?

I'm kinda hot blooded, and live in Dallas (would move if I could!), so anything less than great AC is a deal-breaker. I really don't want to get a Sequoia... :eek:

Any hard info appreciated...

I have not actually stuck a thermometer in the vents to check the temp of the air blowing out. But I must say the air is much cooler at idle, and cools much faster than pre TSB. I now find myself turning the fan down to speeds one and two much more often than before because it gets nice and cold. :2cool:

I got my A/C tsb done today. Because it was 102 degrees today, I could really tell the difference. The main thing that changed is that now when I stop for a red light, or I'm sitting there idling for over 5 minutes, the air stays cold. Before the fix, when ever I was idling, the air would warm up and get humid and smell.
So it looks like the tsb worked out good.
If any one wants, I can list out the parts they replaced.

I got my A/C tsb done today. Because it was 102 degrees today, I could really tell the difference. The main thing that changed is that now when I stop for a red light, or I'm sitting there idling for over 5 minutes, the air stays cold. Before the fix, when ever I was idling, the air would warm up and get humid and smell.
So it looks like the tsb worked out good.
If any one wants, I can list out the parts they replaced.


Yes please list the parts they replaced. I am about to send mine in for repair this week.

Thanks.

For those that turn on the rear A/C to try to cool the car down right away, let me offer the following thoughts:

- When your 'Mada is sitting out in the sun, (I live in Vegas, and it was 110 degrees yesterday), it's not too beneficial to use the rear A/C as it is an overhead ducted system and the roof area (plenum, if you will) is extremely hot. So, the rear A/C is going to blow warm air until the roof cools down.

- When I leave work at the end of the day, I let the front A/C and center console rear A/C (which operates off the front A/C) circulate for a few minutes to help lower the total interior temperature, which helps cool the roof plenum. After a few minutes, I then turn on the rear A/C, if needed. This seems to work pretty well.

- If there are no passengers in the rear of my 'Mada, I usually don't even bother using the rear A/C, unless it's 110 degrees. If there are, then I use the scenario I described above.

:hothot: :2cool:

Got the a/c fix today, what a big difference in sound and cool air.

Getting mine fixed tomorrow. Knowing how dealers are sometimes, I marked the fan coupler behind the radiator and the electric fan behind the front grill with black permanent marker in different spots to see if they actually do change them out. Call me anal but you know how some dealer service techs are. I'll let you all know how it goes tomorrow night.

Getting mine fixed tomorrow. Knowing how dealers are sometimes, I marked the fan coupler behind the radiator and the electric fan behind the front grill with black permanent marker in different spots to see if they actually do change them out. Call me anal but you know how some dealer service techs are. I'll let you all know how it goes tomorrow night.

The new parts are obviously different so it will be easy to figure out. But I understand fully your hesitation in trusting the dealership. I posted pictures of the new parts after they were installed on my beast. You can find them earlier in this thread.

Got the Mada' back today and drove home through the city in stop and go traffic. All I can say is by the time I got close to home, I felt my cheeks with the back of my hand and they were cold alright. Thats when I turned it down to the second detent. The A/C definately blows colder prior to the fix. It used to get humid at stoplights and now it doesn't. When I got home, I checked that all parts were changed and the fan motor did have a quieter whine.

I like to check the work after every dealer service and they did screw up on putting back the fan shroud. I crawled under the radiator from the front and found that the tabs on the bottom of the shroud were not in the two slots on the left and right side to hold it on and one of the cooling lines was not snapped back into the rung attached to the shroud. I took the top two screws off that mount the shroud and crawled back under the radiator. I pushed the shroud up high enough till the tabs fell into the slots, snapped the cooling line onto the rung, and put the two screws back on above. Took 5 minutes tops.

Other than that, they did it right.