: Anyone successfull with lemon law claims?
ImperialShadow 08-09-2005, 08:00 PM Just wondering if anyone has been successful in having their Armada replaced or bought back from Nissan? So far they "fixed" the brake judder twice, once in March then in May of this year ubt it happened again today, if anyone could offer any advise or help I'd apprecate.
92TripleBlack 08-09-2005, 08:07 PM Just wondering if anyone has been successful in having their Armada replaced or bought back from Nissan? So far they "fixed" the brake judder twice, once in March then in May of this year ubt it happened again today, if anyone could offer any advise or help I'd apprecate.
Do a search. If its just brakes relax. They found out that they had badly designed brake parts. The pads had excessive dust and the rotors warped. The parts were redesigned, tested, and put into production. New ones hit the new SUVs in May '05. Dealers are just getting them now. Since the production is maxed but hasn't caught up to demand yet, they have been instructed to turn the rotors up to 3 times before replacing, buying Nissan some time to get enough parts produced. They also have extended the warranty to 36 months and I think unlimited miles to cover the fix. Your dealer should have told you about this. I'd call up another dealer, explain the situation, and get the new set of rotors and pads put on and enjoy the ride instead of loosing big bucks with a lemon claim. ;)
ImperialShadow 08-09-2005, 08:39 PM I know about how they extended the warranty for the brakes to 36 months/unlimited miliage, I'll do a few more searches here. Besides I had already called Nissan consumer affairs, but I didn't get a chance to return their call since I got my wisdom teeth removed today, so I'll see what they have to say tomorrow.
92TripleBlack 08-09-2005, 09:28 PM I know about how they extended the warranty for the brakes to 36 months/unlimited miliage, I'll do a few more searches here. Besides I had already called Nissan consumer affairs, but I didn't get a chance to return their call since I got my wisdom teeth removed today, so I'll see what they have to say tomorrow.
Only reasons I'd recommend the repair instead of Lemon is:
-It works
-Its different from what you have tried so far
-Its free
-Lemon often costs you major bucks
-You won't find anything better. We have the highest initial quality rating of all Full size SUVs including the TOYota.
I'd check into the cost involved. Its different in every state and can cost you thousands. It isn't just turn in the key and walk away. ;)
schneid 08-09-2005, 11:04 PM We have great SUVs. Nissan will fix your problem if your dealer won't. Just call 'em. It is wise to punch your state's lemon law ticke first. Gives you more bargaining power. Go for the permanent break fix and a free 100k warranty. Be patient as they have a backlog.
The problem is what else would you be happy with after the Armada?
I spoke to Nissan Consumer Affairs today regarding my A/C and they are actually helpful. They make it clear that they are Nissan Corp and not a Nissan Dealership.
They have helped me get some things fixed that the dealerships ignore me on.
dmarmada04le 08-10-2005, 09:12 AM "We have the highest initial quality rating of all Full size SUVs including the TOYota"
Wow, thats great, I havent heard that before. 92, where did you get that info from?
92TripleBlack 08-10-2005, 10:21 AM "We have the highest initial quality rating of all Full size SUVs including the TOYota"
Wow, thats great, I havent heard that before. 92, where did you get that info from?
JD Powers. If you go www.edmunds.com and look at all the quality measures, all 6 categories, you will see we have the highest overall. They have an average called "overall", but it is only an average of 3 of the categories.
Since they don't have the complete 2005 ratings yet, I went on 2004. Its a first year truck and most of the problems were fixed for '05 and '06. To be fair, I compared other first year trucks and recent trucks.
2004 Armada
Mechanical quality(Low from brake issues) =3
Body and interior quality(low from squeeks and rattles)=2
Feature and accessory quality (Bad from faulty switches)=2
Performance=5
Comfort=5
Style=5
=22 points of 30.
2004 Yukon
Mechanical quality=5 (same parts/problems as 2001 :confused: )
Body and interior quality=3
Feature and accessory quality =4
Performance=4
Comfort=3
Style=3
=22 points of 30.
2001 Yukon (2000 N/A)
Mechanical quality=3
Body and interior quality=3
Feature and accessory quality =2
Performance=3
Comfort=3
Style=3
=17 points of 30.
2004 Sequoia
Mechanical quality =4
Body and interior quality=4
Feature and accessory quality =4
Performance=5 (not sure about this one)
Comfort=4
Style=3
=24 points of 30.
2001 Sequoia
Mechanical quality =3
Body and interior quality=3
Feature and accessory quality =4
Performance=3
Comfort=3
Style=4
=20 points of 30.
2004 Expedition
Mechanical quality =3
Body and interior quality=2
Feature and accessory quality =3
Performance=3
Comfort=3
Style=3
=17 points of 30.
2000 Expedtion
Mechanical quality =4
Body and interior quality=4
Feature and accessory quality =3
Performance=3
Comfort=3
Style=3
=20 points of 30.
In conclusion, if you compare first year vehicles, we win hands down. If you go to the highest rated, the 2004 Sequoia, it got a 5 in performance, dubious as it is second slowest of all full size SUV and least powerful, Armada would win. Make their performance score a 3, its a tie. Include the fixes from 2005/6 and we should blow them out. No more rattles, switch problems, and brake fix is done. Armada ratings should go up.
Now go to a second source, Strategic Vision Inc. They ranked Nissan highest in consumer satisfaction and said 'the Nissan Armada was the top large SUV' for consumer satisfaction.
http://www.strategiy.com/inews.asp?id=20050720140302
So think twice before you jump. The grass isn't necessarily greener. ;)
greenarmada 08-12-2005, 05:46 PM I think it is a little bit of wishful thinking to say that if not for the brake issues, the Armada would blow the rest of them out of the water. That is kind of like saying if not for those pesky blowouts, Firestone would be the best tire on the market. If you were ask me to choose between which is a problem I can live with, I would have to say that I would choose slower and less powerful ( Sequioa) over not sure if it is going to stop. Don't get me wrong, if not for the brake issue, I would be a HUGE fan of the Aramada, but the persistence of the problem, and a "head in the sand" approach to the problem from Nissan and the dealer, I'm not sure it is worth the hassle.
greenarmada,
If the brake issue really were as serious as many are making it out to be, I'd agree with you. However, the reality is that there are a bunch of people who have exagerated the issue to try to get the permanent fixes without going through the 3 rotor turns first. Which does suck.
But, when the brake jutter comes on, it gets progressively worse and even at its worse, it's not going to make anyone drive of the road or do any other supernatural stuff. I'm calling all the B.S. out there.
And Nissan has NOT had their "head in the sand". The identified it, they redesigned it, and are now in the process of retro fitting.
It's the dealerships that were giving many the runaround.
Anyway, the Firestone case is day and night compared to the brake jutter.
92TripleBlack 08-12-2005, 07:40 PM I think it is a little bit of wishful thinking to say that if not for the brake issues, the Armada would blow the rest of them out of the water. That is kind of like saying if not for those pesky blowouts, Firestone would be the best tire on the market. If you were ask me to choose between which is a problem I can live with, I would have to say that I would choose slower and less powerful ( Sequioa) over not sure if it is going to stop. Don't get me wrong, if not for the brake issue, I would be a HUGE fan of the Aramada, but the persistence of the problem, and a "head in the sand" approach to the problem from Nissan and the dealer, I'm not sure it is worth the hassle.
Its brake judder, not failure. There is no danger, no one said there was, and no one has been in danger. Brake judder gives you a fluttering brake pedal. MANY cars have this, probably 5-10% of all cars on the road at any time. I don't see them careening off the road all the time. Not one documented case of anyone even having a fenderbender from this either. Sorry, but it is a small issue that Nissan is in the process of resolving.
If you experience the judder, bring it to a dealer. If they have new parts, they will replace them. If they don't, they will turn the rotors. This is done all day by brake guys. Once the rotors are turned, they will have no judder and be as good as new. They may or may not deteriorate again. If they do, repeat the above process. Nissan is doing this up to 3 times because the new part supply is strained to meet demand. Titans, Armadas and QX56 are selling like crazy, above expectations. New parts are priority to new vehicles, then excess comes to us. Once the repair is completed, the problem is over, so as people get the new parts, there are less and less people needing them. Within a couple months, this should be a dead issue.
If you want a true problem, look at faulty fuel systems on Fords that have engine fires, blowing head gaskets on GM that do the same.
Here's a link of people griping about the Sequoia.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.eec8948
Cracked exhaust manifold, 12 miles on OD and pulls to left, how's this one:
I am surprised that edmunds.com and consumerreports.org still ranks this as the best large SUV with all its problems. With all the problems I'm reading here, this oughtta be classified as a lemon. Am missing something here?
The first day I drove out of the dealership I found out the alignment problem, took it back the very next day and they said its fixed and its still a problem. Now I am feeling the vibration under my feet problem, it has only 600 miles on it. Whats next, the tires fall out? hmmm I wont be surprised. I am getting disappointed with this piece of junk that every review board thinks so highly of.
I was debating between the Sequoia and a GM vehicle, because of all the reviews I read I decided on the so called highly recommended SUV. Well, Im not very pleased with it right now. Im thinking of just trading it in for a Tahoe or an Armada. Wasted my money on this lemon!!!
Here's another good one:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?ed_searchResults@1010.QIfYdOHjTK2.1@.ee95169! keywords=allin%3Amsgtext%20limit%3A.ee95169%20tsb% 20brakes&count=20
4 pages of people complaining about brake problems on Sequoia. Took Toyota 3 years to issue a TSB and start repairing them. :rolleyes:
Sorry, but nothing is perfect. ;)
g35wtwins 08-13-2005, 12:35 AM Andy,
I agree 100%. I have friends who have "1/2 ton vehicles from Ford, Chevy and Dodge and they all have had issues with front brake rotors warping prematurely. Dodge 1500 and Ford F150's both seem to be plagued with this issue for years and have never done anything except turn the rotors through the warranty period and then leave the consumer to fend for themself claiming "normal wear and tear."
Now, I will say that I was extremely disappointed the first time I felt the front end of the Armada jutter when I applied the brake....Then I was pissed about it when it came back the second time! But after talking to an informed service advisor, I am pleased to see that Nissan is actually doing something about it. Even with 22's on it, I have never felt like the brakes wouldn't stop me.
I can't wait to see how much better the new ones will be once installed!
My 2 cents.
greenarmada 08-13-2005, 12:50 AM I'm sorry, but I really don't consider it exagerating a problem when I have had 3 sets of warped rotors in less than 14000 miles and it is obvious I am not alone. I have better things to do than take my Armada in every 2 or 3 months to have the brakes fixed. Maybe my brake problems are abnormally excessive compared to the "minor" problem some of you seem to think it is, but it is a safety issue when you are transporting 6 junior high kids down a snowy mountain road and your brakes are doing a hula. And I really don't care about the problems other SUV's are having, I am concerned about Nissan fixing the problem with the vehicle I own.
To date, depsite contacting Nissan 3 times and the dealer 4 or 5, nobody in a position to do anything about it has acknowledged the existence of an inherent problem with the brakes or the fact that there is a "fix". Maybe that isn't burying your head in the sand, but it certainly isn't customer service or taking responsibility for the problem. And, why is this complaint so bothersome to you that you feel the need to defend Nissan?
I totally agree with you that it is a big pain in the *** to bring the Armada in for it's rotor turns and other issues.
All I'm saying if that no ones lives are being endangered, nor is the vehicle unsafe like so many are claiming.
92TripleBlack 08-13-2005, 11:46 AM I'm sorry, but I really don't consider it exagerating a problem when I have had 3 sets of warped rotors in less than 14000 miles and it is obvious I am not alone. I have better things to do than take my Armada in every 2 or 3 months to have the brakes fixed. Maybe my brake problems are abnormally excessive compared to the "minor" problem some of you seem to think it is, but it is a safety issue when you are transporting 6 junior high kids down a snowy mountain road and your brakes are doing a hula. And I really don't care about the problems other SUV's are having, I am concerned about Nissan fixing the problem with the vehicle I own.
To date, depsite contacting Nissan 3 times and the dealer 4 or 5, nobody in a position to do anything about it has acknowledged the existence of an inherent problem with the brakes or the fact that there is a "fix". Maybe that isn't burying your head in the sand, but it certainly isn't customer service or taking responsibility for the problem. And, why is this complaint so bothersome to you that you feel the need to defend Nissan?
Please read the whole post next time.
The fix wasn't out until 2 months ago.
If you bring it in now, it will be fixed permanently.
Nissan already addressed this problem.
With the above 3 statements, why are you typing on your computer complaining and not scheduling your Mada to be fixed already? Almost every owner of every SUV from every maker has the same problem as you, including me. You are lucky enough to have bought from a company that has solved the problem promptly instead of waiting over 3 years like Ford, Dodge, Toyota and others. :rolleyes:
greenarmada 08-13-2005, 03:31 PM As I have mentioned in previous posts, I just took it in last week and still no "permanent" fix is being offered....it has been promised since May, but no sign of it yet. All I get from Nissan are promises to "get right on it" but so far, nothing. If I could someone to give me a firm date as to when I will get the permanent fix, then maybe I will stop typing and go to the dealer.
By the way, have I somehow landed in the middle of a Nissan run site? Just wondering, because there sure seem to be a lot of people running to their defense. All I was looking for was a forum to see if other people were getting the same run around I have, and apparently many people are.
92TripleBlack 08-13-2005, 08:58 PM As I have mentioned in previous posts, I just took it in last week and still no "permanent" fix is being offered....it has been promised since May, but no sign of it yet. All I get from Nissan are promises to "get right on it" but so far, nothing. If I could someone to give me a firm date as to when I will get the permanent fix, then maybe I will stop typing and go to the dealer.
By the way, have I somehow landed in the middle of a Nissan run site? Just wondering, because there sure seem to be a lot of people running to their defense. All I was looking for was a forum to see if other people were getting the same run around I have, and apparently many people are.
I'd go to a different dealer then if you are getting crappy service. You should be getting the final fix by now. I'd call around and explain to a few in your area and see if they will fix the situation. I bet they'd love to steal a future customer. Maybe we should start a list of rating service at different dealers for sales and repair.
I am about to go for my first brake fix myself. Ahead of time I am calling around to find out what the repair area's take on it is. If they give me the runaround I'll go elsewhere. With 10+ dealers within 50 miles, no problems.
As for Nissan site, no, but I do get defensive about bashing the truck. For the most part, people are here to praise and admire the Mada, not scare them like the first post comparing the brake problem to one that killed a lot of people. :rolleyes:
bubbagump 08-15-2005, 11:44 PM Greenaramada....You are right on the money on all your comments!! The brake issue and Nissan Customer service are totally unacceptable....FULL STOP! I also agree with your comment about some of the other people on this site being in a big hurry to defend Nissan on every issue.
Call a spade a spade!!!
Nissan knew damn well that the brakes were crap before they sold a single unit but they did it anyway. and now they refuse to do a recall.
Secondly the brakes are only one issue. These things are huge rattle traps built with American low end plastic that unfortunatley rattles and creeks at every bumb.
I have now filed a arbitration claim against Nissan as I have had 22 different defects on this vehicle. Yes I have an 04 but don't give me the BS that the 05 are better......they are the same.....read the posts.
As for trashing Toyota........read any reliablitiy report ....Toyota kicks Nissan's ***!
I'm not saying the Sequoia is a great vehicle but I would lay money on them having a better reliability record than the Armada.
92TripleBlack 08-16-2005, 12:08 AM Nissan knew damn well that the brakes were crap before they sold a single unit but they did it anyway. and now they refuse to do a recall.
I'd like to see where you have information saying Nissan new when they started making Armadas that they had faulty brakes. Please post it.
As for a recall, they are using up 100% of the parts right now replacing faulty brakes and on the production line. A recall would do nothing without new parts. They are making them as fast as possible to get things resolved.
Secondly the brakes are only one issue. These things are huge rattle traps built with American low end plastic that unfortunatley rattles and creeks at every bumb.
This was fixed after '04. I don't know anyone that has an '05 complaining about their Armada being a "rattle trap". You're fault for not knowing every first year vehicle has bugs. EX. Sequoia, Tahoe, and Jeep Grand Cherokee have all had many more problems, most more serious than what the Armada had.
I have now filed a arbitration claim against Nissan as I have had 22 different defects on this vehicle. Yes I have an 04 but don't give me the BS that the 05 are better......they are the same.....read the posts.
Show me which ones to read? Brakes were fixed in May '05. Other problems were gone by the time the '05 run started.
As for trashing Toyota........read any reliablitiy report ....Toyota kicks Nissan's ***!
Read it yourself. I posted 68 pages of Sequioa owners griping about brake problems on Edmunds. Toyota didn't even aknowledge this for 3 years. Then there's the rattles.....
I'm not saying the Sequoia is a great vehicle but I would lay money on them having a better reliability record than the Armada. JD Powers doesn't. :rolleyes:
My troll detector is glowing green. :D
Bubbagump, can you list the 22 defects? I can think of a couple that maybe are defects if even that. Like the brakes that have been fixed.
And if you consider a rattle a defect?
Also, no one is denying that the brakes have problems, just that it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. The reality is that the steering wheel shakes a bit, then you go get the rotors turned and maybe get the countermeasures put on for the permanent fix. Yes it's a pain, but you're not going to endanger your kids, or drive off a cliff, or .........
92TripleBlack 08-16-2005, 02:29 PM Bubbagump, can you list the 22 defects? I can think of a couple that maybe are defects if even that. Like the brakes that have been fixed.
And if you consider a rattle a defect?
Also, no one is denying that the brakes have problems, just that it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. The reality is that the steering wheel shakes a bit, then you go get the rotors turned and maybe get the countermeasures put on for the permanent fix. Yes it's a pain, but you're not going to endanger your kids, or drive off a cliff, or .........
Well, you can grill them, broil them, stew them, BBQ them.... ;)
His "22 defects" reflect the 22 things he's asked the dealer to fix including rattles and squeeks. At least this is how he cited it earlier. But remember, Shrimp is the fruit of the sea.
bubbagump 08-16-2005, 11:44 PM Ok, Here are the defects to date:
1)Steering wheel shimmy
2)Front wheel aliagnment off from factory
3)Defective tire
4)defective rim
5)Sunroof leak
6)Drivers Mirror vibration
7)Ground strap ticking
8)Power seat motor shorted out
9)roof console rattle
10) sunroof rattle
11)rear wheel alaignment off from factory
12)Brake fluid leak
13)Brake rotors
14)Trans temp guage fluctuation
15)Sunroof trim pieces falling off while driving
16)second row captains chair latches broken
17)Drivers Mirror vibration again
18)rear hatch rattle
19)Dash rattle
20)door rattle
21)Engine knocking at idle
22)Drivers power window switch
With respect to the brakes I have the following comments:
1) Of course Nissan knew of the problem. Every auto manufacturer tests their vehicles and brakes extensively during the product development stage. The brake problems would have shown up after 4000 miles of testing. Damn right they knew they had a problem.
2) They should be forced to do a recall. Its not good enough to say "we will keep fixing the old rotors and eventually you will get a permanent fix". There are several manufacturers in the US capable of making these parts for Nissan not just the one they have contracted. Its much easier for Nissan to push everyone off and spread their problem over a much greater time frame. If Nissan was forced to do a recall they would have to supply the new parts in a timely maner.
Read JD Power report on brand reliability. Toyota does out preform Nissan overall.
Lemon Law depends on which state are you in. I wona Lemon Law in CA. But not a nissan. Just save all your job order or reciepts from dealer. You might need it.
92TripleBlack 08-19-2005, 01:10 PM Ok, Here are the defects to date:
1)Steering wheel shimmy
2)Front wheel aliagnment off from factory
3)Defective tire
4)defective rim
5)Sunroof leak
6)Drivers Mirror vibration
7)Ground strap ticking
8)Power seat motor shorted out
9)roof console rattle
10) sunroof rattle
11)rear wheel alaignment off from factory
12)Brake fluid leak
13)Brake rotors
14)Trans temp guage fluctuation
15)Sunroof trim pieces falling off while driving
16)second row captains chair latches broken
17)Drivers Mirror vibration again
18)rear hatch rattle
19)Dash rattle
20)door rattle
21)Engine knocking at idle
22)Drivers power window switch
With respect to the brakes I have the following comments:
1) Of course Nissan knew of the problem. Every auto manufacturer tests their vehicles and brakes extensively during the product development stage. The brake problems would have shown up after 4000 miles of testing. Damn right they knew they had a problem.
2) They should be forced to do a recall. Its not good enough to say "we will keep fixing the old rotors and eventually you will get a permanent fix". There are several manufacturers in the US capable of making these parts for Nissan not just the one they have contracted. Its much easier for Nissan to push everyone off and spread their problem over a much greater time frame. If Nissan was forced to do a recall they would have to supply the new parts in a timely maner.
Read JD Power report on brand reliability. Toyota does out preform Nissan overall.
Yes you have a lemon. Yes, you should file. No, I don't agree with both your points on the brakes.
1. Every maker has delivered vehicles to market with brake problems. Sequioa for example was worse than ours.
2. A forced recall would do nothing. The brakes are being fixed as fast as they can make parts. A recall wouldn't magically make more parts. Where are they going to get the extra parts?
The recall fairy? :teeth:
They aren't going to make them any faster. It isn't a safety issue so neither they or any other maker would build more brake rotor factories to increase the flow of parts. Once the parts start to build up in stock, I would think they would have a recall put in place. Until then, all you will do is have people without problems getting parts and prolonging the suffering of the people who need the parts. :rolleyes:
Toyota does outperform Nissan based on older models. The current models are not reviewed. Its like picking a stock because it grew in the past, but not because of what the company is doing now or going forward. Also, JD only looks at some measures, not all measures when rating a vehicle. They also do not weigh problems. Bad brake pads are as bad as a transmission falling out for example. Ultimately, the rating system is about as bogus as the star rating system from Morningstar is for mutual funds but equally the general public doesn't understand why and still modifies their buying habits with these poor systems.
otter 08-19-2005, 01:32 PM Bought the new 05 and have the same problems as everyone else describing.Especially with the shimmy at anything above 50 mph steering wheel shakes and drivers side mirror is shaking so bad it makes it unusable. Hard stop and wheel jerks to the right. Bought it on Friday--had probelms on way home and reported on Saturday. Been in shop three times now with no fix and Nissan dealer that doesn't care. Once off the showroom floor it's "My" problem. Going through arbitration with BBB and Nissan suppoosed to call--still waiting. Some people respond we are just to accept and live with it as it is no big deal, not a safety issue. Fine..let Nissan buy it back and sell to another unsuspecting customer.
It's not acceptable and there is no joy in paying big bucks for a vehicle that doesn't deliver. We are not the only ones. They just ran an ivestigation piece on news channel here on the Armada. Check out wtvf.com and type in "Nissan".
Class action lawsuit may be only avenue to get Niassans attention.
92TripleBlack 08-19-2005, 01:51 PM Bought the new 05 and have the same problems as everyone else describing.Especially with the shimmy at anything above 50 mph steering wheel shakes and drivers side mirror is shaking so bad it makes it unusable. Hard stop and wheel jerks to the right. Bought it on Friday--had probelms on way home and reported on Saturday. Been in shop three times now with no fix and Nissan dealer that doesn't care. Once off the showroom floor it's "My" problem. Going through arbitration with BBB and Nissan suppoosed to call--still waiting. Some people respond we are just to accept and live with it as it is no big deal, not a safety issue. Fine..let Nissan buy it back and sell to another unsuspecting customer.
It's not acceptable and there is no joy in paying big bucks for a vehicle that doesn't deliver. We are not the only ones. They just ran an ivestigation piece on news channel here on the Armada. Check out wtvf.com and type in "Nissan".
Class action lawsuit may be only avenue to get Niassans attention.
Shimmy is bad alignment or tire balancing. Covered by warranty dealer is required to fix.
Brake problem is also a warranty issue. If dealer isn't fixing, I'd bring it to another dealer and get it fixed for free and BBB the first dealer. Its BS if the dealer won't fix the problems. No one has responded to live with it that I have seen one time. However, the problem is fixed temporarily with a rotor turn. Dealers are now turning the rotors up to 3 times before installing the new parts as there is a parts shortage. Turning the rotors will fix the problem, but most likely for 5K miles or so and not permanently. Shimmy should be fixed outright for free. Good luck. ;)
inf3rno 08-20-2005, 10:19 AM could this be more funny?? i dont think so... next time before you buy a truck PLEASE do a lil research on the vehicle about everything. if you are going to start *****ing about the truck on your way home... then why the hell you bought it in the 1st place?
brake issue? yes. on 04 models and getting fixed.
rattles? yes. only nissan? NO.
squeaks? yes. maybe the car you owned before had them? YES.
now, im in the market for an armada, im WELL AWARE of the problems. i was considering to buy an expy 2 years ago, toyota is not a FULL size truck maybe 3/4 truck and what else? GM mmm... i never before even looked at nissan, now they have a nice truck and by "now" i mean 05 and 06 coming out. all models on their 1st year have problems, couple bugs but thats normal... like ive said before armada its been on the market for only 2 years come on!!! there is a big diff on the 05 models. instead of *****in the truck why dont you take a look when the expy, sequoia, tahoe were born??? im 90% sure that you havent and if you want to compare then do it the way it should be, compare 1st year of expy sequia... vs 1st year of armada...
and your "big" list of 22 is full of rattles if im correct, and thats because you have an 04 model. ;)
bubbagump 08-22-2005, 09:20 PM If the truck rattled when i test drove it like it does now, I wouldnt have bought it. Rattles are not the only issue. The "new Model" exuse is BS!!
I wish you guys bent on defending Nissan on these issues would just be honest and fess up that you work for Nissan!!!
bubbagump 02-26-2007, 02:06 PM In addition to the below defects list posted several months ago I have the following new ones...........It is time to bail on this pile of junk and take Nissan to court!
1)Steering wheel shimmy
2)Front wheel aliagnment off from factory
3)Defective tire
4)defective rim
5)Sunroof leak
6)Drivers Mirror vibration
7)Ground strap ticking
8)Power seat motor shorted out
9)roof console rattle
10) sunroof rattle
11)rear wheel alaignment off from factory
12)Brake fluid leak
13)Brake rotors
14)Trans temp guage fluctuation
15)Sunroof trim pieces falling off while driving
16)second row captains chair latches broken
17)Drivers Mirror vibration again
18)rear hatch rattle
19)Dash rattle
20)door rattle
21)Engine knocking at idle
22)Drivers power window switch
new defects
23)P.Door ticking
24)P.seat Squeek
25)D.Seat Squeek
26)P.S. exhaust Manifold cracked
27)rear qtr window motors quit
28)P.S. power seat controls fell out
29)D.S. key lock/handle fell off
30)D.S. Exhaust manifold cracked
31)fuel dampeners making knocking sound
32)D.S. Mirror replaced 3 times - still shakes
33)fan shrould rattle
34)PS seat heater quit
35)DS seat heater quit
36)Front springs groan over speed bumps
37)secondary sun viser fell off
38)2nd row bucket seat leather split - DS
39)2nd row bucket seat leather split -PS
40)Excessive wind noise through sunroof - track replaced
41)
In addition to these items there are still a handful of unresolved issues. I love the size, power and look of this truck but I cannot take the poor quality anymore. Its a real shame that Nissan dropped the ball on this truck. I have owned 3 Pathfinders and my wife currently drives a Maxima but this is the end of the road for us and Nissan.
BlakSpyda 02-26-2007, 02:31 PM bubbagump, well damn! Sorry to hear about all you went through and I sure do not know how the Lemon Law works in Vancouver, or what your comperable resolution would be. The list of problems that you experienced seems to run the gammot of the entire list of TSBs for your 04 Galaxy LE.
Well, you do what you gotta do and good luck to ya!
Campfamily 02-26-2007, 02:33 PM What have you been doing the past year? If you're so peeved at this truck, why haven't you gotten rid of it by now?
BTW, as those who have been around this forum for a while know, I had an 04 with many of the same problems you have. I got Nissan to buy mine back, giving me nearly all of my money back (inc. taxes, finance charges, license fees, etc.). Total cost to me was $750 for a lawyer, which I didn't pay until Nissan agreed to buy my vehicle back. I took the money and went right out and bought another Armada, this time an 06. Nearly 20K miles, and no problems. No rattles, no brake judder, no booming in the cabin. Still the best full-size SUV out there, no exceptions! I learned my lesson, never buy a first year auto again, particularly one that is as new as the Armada was when it came out.
Keith
BlakSpyda 02-26-2007, 02:44 PM That's why I got the '06. I have been around just long enough and know much better that to get the first production year of any vehicle.
DocHarley 02-26-2007, 05:48 PM 2006 Lexus GS430
Rattles at moon roof
Rattles dash area
Rattles P door
Clicking noise tachometer
Smells like a dead rat when AC turned on
Gears in steering wheels make grinding noise
10K miles front breaks and rotors warped
auto trunk inoperative
Break light failed 3 times so far
Seat belt does not function properly
Nav works when it wants, screen flashes on and off
What’s my point? First year models are trouble, always have been and always will be.
I'm as anal as they get and I'm very happy with my 2007 LE Mada. No rattles, squeaks or complaints here.
ggeorgie 02-26-2007, 07:16 PM I would still try to get a lawyer, and have nissan buy it back. heck you don't have to suffer like that.
I wish mine have problems now, so that I can hire an attorney and have nissan buy back. and by me one of them 07, :D . Mine is still as good as new, ain't no problems here. :cool:
shade 02-26-2007, 07:37 PM I had a lemon law claim against GM and my 04' Tahoe. Needless to say it cost me $0 my attorneys got paid by GM when we settled. Just have your documents ready and make sure your state law is on yoru side.
I had a lemon law claim against GM and my 04' Tahoe. Needless to say it cost me $0 my attorneys got paid by GM when we settled. Just have your documents ready and make sure your state law is on yoru side.
Just curious if that was for the tranny? I know a guy who just had one go out on him this last December on his '04 Yukon XL.
He found out 5:30pm on Dec 31 and rushed it from the Service Dept to the New Car Sales Dept and because of the short distance around the building and no communication within, he got full trade-in value for it and is driving an '07 now.
Houston_Rider 02-26-2007, 11:29 PM I don't visit here often, but I can share with you my Nissan experience. I've owned a new Nissan every other year since 1995. I bought a 2005 Armada in July of 2005. In August it was in for the brakes. 6 months and 5 visits later, they finally replaced the brakes. Each time it was in, I told them about a clanking noise in the front suspension. 3 more visits, and a "final" repair (before the buyback process could begin), a DSM (district service manager) flew in from Dallas and guaranteed the repair (he had the truck for 3 hours).
August 8, 2006 - Nissan told me the final repair didn't count because the request had to be in writing. (whatever).. So I had my atty do it. 35 days later, they responded by telling me they would give me $2,000 and fix anything I had an issue with. I responded to them, but no response back from Nissan for about 80more days. 30 days before they responded, we filed suit with Nissan. That was back in November I think.
We are asking for 50% off the purchase price ($18k, and I keep the truck) , I turned down $10k.
Something to think about... if you're having issues, get the ball rolling now, I've been "working" with them for 18 months and file suit 3 months ago.. still no resolve.... yet.
razzlee 02-27-2007, 01:53 AM Man, oh man...I must be one lucky S.O.B!! My '05 SE now has 13000 miles on it, we've driven to Las Vegas and back, I've been wheelin' in the sand dunes (several times:D), heck, today I took it behind the golf course to hit up the new mud!! (it was that slushy, hail and water mixture that you can hear crunch and slosh) I'm not particularly "easy" on the truck and it has not had a single problem! I do get a rattle sometimes...when I leave my golf bag open and a ball or two roll around in the back:D
How can there be such a big difference with my Armada experience compaired to others? Heck, my truck has to pull harder than most to spin these 33"s!!
Well, I am truely sad that others have not had o good time in their "madas.
RazzLee out.
Campfamily 02-27-2007, 09:33 AM Man, oh man...I must be one lucky S.O.B!! My '05 SE now has 13000 miles on it, we've driven to Las Vegas and back, I've been wheelin' in the sand dunes (several times:D), heck, today I took it behind the golf course to hit up the new mud!! (it was that slushy, hail and water mixture that you can hear crunch and slosh) I'm not particularly "easy" on the truck and it has not had a single problem! I do get a rattle sometimes...when I leave my golf bag open and a ball or two roll around in the back:D
How can there be such a big difference with my Armada experience compaired to others? Heck, my truck has to pull harder than most to spin these 33"s!!
Well, I am truely sad that others have not had o good time in their "madas.
RazzLee out.
Most of the people with troubles have 04 or early 05s. The point being made here is that Nissan fixed the issues, particularly the brakes and the interior rattles, and for that, the later 05s, 06s and 07s are relatively trouble free. Nearly 20K miles on my 06, and we don't have any of the problems. By this time with my 04, I was on a first-name basis with darn near everybody in the service department, as well as the local Enterprise Rent-a-Car office.
Keith
Houston_Rider 02-27-2007, 10:56 PM oh... forgot to mention, the issues started around 1,100 miles. I FINALLY got Nissan to "start" a buy-back at 32,000 miles (about a year). I filed suit at 38,000 miles. This morning, the truck has 57,600 miles on it.
Chili 02-28-2007, 12:17 AM While getting the oil changed a few days ago the guy told my wife the breaks were shot. The oil change place doesn't do brakes so there was no apparent upsale intended.. Just under 9k on an 06 LE. I have noticed some grinding noised when the ABS kicks in (rain and snow). Other than that performance seemed to be fine. Will be taking it to the dealership asap.
BlakSpyda 02-28-2007, 09:14 AM While getting the oil changed a few days ago the guy told my wife the breaks were shot. The oil change place doesn't do brakes so there was no apparent upsale intended.. Just under 9k on an 06 LE. I have noticed some grinding noised when the ABS kicks in (rain and snow). Other than that performance seemed to be fine. Will be taking it to the dealership asap.
Under 9k:eek:
Like I said earlier in another post, I got my brakes doene around 30K, which I hear is the average. 9K is extremely bad results for brakes. Let us know how this pans out!
EagerCrow 02-28-2007, 02:57 PM I've got an 06 with 11K and so far no problems. I tow a 3K trailer a minimum of 100 miles every week during the summer. I drive 70-80 with that trailer, no brake problems yet, knock on wood.
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