Now, I am looking to have some performance Mod. to increase HP, I was all show and no go, now I would like to have all go too, I looked at all the threads and saw many of you has installed the Volant, K&N or the AEM Brute force Intake. its very confusing on what to decide, any suggestions, and what does the body throttle spacer do? do I have to have it?LOL ;)

I don't think you will see much increase in performance or mileage by installing just an aftermarket Cold Air Intake. These seem to help when installed with an aftermarket exhaust system. The two need each other to work well. The aftermarket CAI will increase enging noise quite a bit when accelerating hard. It won't be louder at idle or at a steady speed. My experience with the Airaid TBS has been a increase in off idle acceleration, but no gain in mileage.
As you may have seen from some of my posts, I have the Volant CAI, the Airaid TBS and the Gibson single cat back system installed on my Armada. This combination has worked well for me, with significant increases in performance, but very little in mileage increase. But the increase in performance hasn't cost me any mileage, which is a good thing.
I like the Volant because it is a true CAI. It is completely sealed to the engine compartment hot air, taking all it's air from the fenderwell. Most other aftermarket CAI units are not sealed, and take in some hot air from the engine compartment.
You don't have to have the TBS to install the other devices, but I have proven to myself with back to back test runs that it does increase my acceleration performance.
The three items discussed above are easy to install. Any owner can install them with basic hand tools and some guidance from this forum.

I don't think you will see much increase in performance or mileage by installing just an aftermarket Cold Air Intake. These seem to help when installed with an aftermarket exhaust system. The two need each other to work well. The aftermarket CAI will increase enging noise quite a bit when accelerating hard. It won't be louder at idle or at a steady speed. My experience with the Airaid TBS has been a increase in off idle acceleration, but no gain in mileage.
As you may have seen from some of my posts, I have the Volant CAI, the Airaid TBS and the Gibson single cat back system installed on my Armada. This combination has worked well for me, with significant increases in performance, but very little in mileage increase. But the increase in performance hasn't cost me any mileage, which is a good thing.
I like the Volant because it is a true CAI. It is completely sealed to the engine compartment hot air, taking all it's air from the fenderwell. Most other aftermarket CAI units are not sealed, and take in some hot air from the engine compartment.
You don't have to have the TBS to install the other devices, but I have proven to myself with back to back test runs that it does increase my acceleration performance.
The three items discussed above are easy to install. Any owner can install them with basic hand tools and some guidance from this forum.

SCR, I have seen the Volant with the glass cover, it looks neat and clean. but let me get this straight, you are saying if I install the CAI, then its a must to have the exhaust changed and add the Airaid TBS for it to work properly and have the increase power, Now I would like to have this setup, and I am not concerned about increasing the mileage, just HP.( from reading the threads about mileage increases its all a joke :rolleyes: ). what's the price on the whole setup? I can only wish to find something displaying the sound of the 40, 50, 60, or 70 Exhaust of a different manufacturers i.e Borla, Magnaflow and others :comp26:

P.S I did like the dual exhaust on the gmartin66 05 LE, looks good

ok, knowing the Volant is the best CAI, what about the Body throttle spacer, should I go with the Airaid or the Helix power tower plus on ebay. :hi:

ok, knowing the Volant is the best CAI, what about the Body throttle spacer, should I go with the Airaid or the Helix power tower plus on ebay. :hi:
Yoy don't need to install a TBS with the CAI and cat back, but I think it helps. The major point is that the CAI and cat back work very well togather. You won't get the full benefit of either unless you install both.
I paid $475.00 delivered for the Gibson SS system, the alumized steel system is about $75.00 cheaper. Since I keep my vehicles for a long time and I live on the Gulf Coast it is worth the extra for the SS. I paid about $235.00 for the Volant. I made the clear cover; the new 3rd generation Volants come with an aluminum cover and an improver box.
If you buy a TBS I like the Airaid. Very good fit and finish, and has worked well for me and others. I paid about $100.00 for it.

Yoy don't need to install a TBS with the CAI and cat back, but I think it helps. The major point is that the CAI and cat back work very well togather. You won't get the full benefit of either unless you install both.
I paid $475.00 delivered for the Gibson SS system, the alumized steel system is about $75.00 cheaper. Since I keep my vehicles for a long time and I live on the Gulf Coast it is worth the extra for the SS. I paid about $235.00 for the Volant. I made the clear cover; the new 3rd generation Volants come with an aluminum cover and an improver box.
If you buy a TBS I like the Airaid. Very good fit and finish, and has worked well for me and others. I paid about $100.00 for it.
will adding all these will void the warranty?

will adding all these will void the warranty?

No, it will not.

No, it will not.

Thanks :udaman:

I cannot fathom any scientific basis for a TBS to work with port fuel injection. With respect, I think that only works with carbureted engines.

I cannot fathom any scientific basis for a TBS to work with port fuel injection. With respect, I think that only works with carbureted engines.
Its not the spacer itself that helps (on carbureted engines the added volume under the carb helped). On our engine, which is port injected, the spacer also does not aid in mixing the fuel/air mix since there is no mix in the manifold. I think the the boost in off line performance that I have measured, and many other have seen, is due to the swirling action of the air flowing past the throttle plate. A partial open plate creates a lot of turbulance in the incoming air stream. I think the swirl that the helix bore in the spacer gives to the air stream helps eliminate some of this turbulance. This is just my theory; I have no proof to back this up. But I have made back to back tests with and without the spacer, and have always got quicker 60' and 0-60 times with the spacer. I have not seen any increase in mileage with it.

http://clubarmada.com/showthread.php?t=2355&highlight=fujita

Yoy don't need to install a TBS with the CAI and cat back, but I think it helps. The major point is that the CAI and cat back work very well togather. You won't get the full benefit of either unless you install both.
I paid $475.00 delivered for the Gibson SS system, the alumized steel system is about $75.00 cheaper. Since I keep my vehicles for a long time and I live on the Gulf Coast it is worth the extra for the SS. I paid about $235.00 for the Volant. I made the clear cover; the new 3rd generation Volants come with an aluminum cover and an improver box.
If you buy a TBS I like the Airaid. Very good fit and finish, and has worked well for me and others. I paid about $100.00 for it.

Hey bro - thanks for posting to this forum.. great knowledge - very helpful. I was wondering, I live in the Houston area - would you know of a shop that could assist me w/ the mods you list above? I am willing to pay for the work.. as I am completely inept when it comes to cars..

Hey bro - thanks for posting to this forum.. great knowledge - very helpful. I was wondering, I live in the Houston area - would you know of a shop that could assist me w/ the mods you list above? I am willing to pay for the work.. as I am completely inept when it comes to cars..
Most of this stuff you could do in a few minutes. The exhaust is most easily done at an exhaust shop like Meineke. ;)

Hey bro - thanks for posting to this forum.. great knowledge - very helpful. I was wondering, I live in the Houston area - would you know of a shop that could assist me w/ the mods you list above? I am willing to pay for the work.. as I am completely inept when it comes to cars..
Like Triple stated it's not hard, the exhaust can be done by most shop easily for a little fees $40-$50 is the average. As for intake and TBS it's not hard at all, if you get the stuffs and need help, give me a holler and I'll assist you.

Like Triple stated it's not hard, the exhaust can be done by most shop easily for a little fees $40-$50 is the average. As for intake and TBS it's not hard at all, if you get the stuffs and need help, give me a holler and I'll assist you.
Now that's cool. Kudos for you baseballfanz ;) :awesome:

As stated in the above posts, these items are not hard to install. I'm sure you can do the job, maybe with a little help from a friend. Look at these How To posts:

For the Volant install www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1193

For the Throttle Body Spacer install
www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1078

For the Gibson install (note that this install is on a Titan, but it is the same, just the tail pipe is made different)
www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=836

Follow the install info from the other posts and you will have no problem, with the Volant. Very easy install, they hardest part was the removal of the old parts, you need to pull up on the box to free it from the rubber grommets. Have faith there are no addtional screws and it will pop out. After that very easy. And I can say I am the farthest thing from an auto mechanic that ther is.

have anyone actually run a test on all diff kind of CAI? like doing comparison on each other.. which has better gain in HP?

have anyone actually run a test on all diff kind of CAI? like doing comparison on each other.. which has better gain in HP?
That would be nice but no one would have the money and time to run all the CAI just to see what's best. Best we could hope for is maybe a magazine or sonething running a comparssion test. :D

have anyone actually run a test on all diff kind of CAI? like doing comparison on each other.. which has better gain in HP?

This one gives 8-9 hp I've been selling.

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/prodimages/armt_fujita_nocover.jpg

More info.write-up/Dyno Chart here:

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_fujita

Hi there, did you decide on a CAI yet? I am looking and now feel more confused than ever. “Desert Rat” located in Mesa AZ (Shawn @ 480-833-7300) is selling the AirAid CAI for $189.00. Do any of you out there have any input on this item? I have been looking at the “aFe Magnum Force Stage II” and have not read anywhere that shows larger HP and Torque gains than the aFe.
Please help!
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I have a new 06 Armada LE 4x4 w/TEch pkg and I went through the same process you did; I researched and read every posting relating to CAI and even checked out Titan forums. In my opinion, the Volant G3 is the only true cold air intake because it's sealed from the engine bay. The air comes in through the right front fender well like the factory box. The Gen 3 fits better and has a great looking blue aluminum cover. The install took me 1/2 hour and I am not very mechanically inclined. Other CAI expose your filter to hot air. The sound is also awesome. I've tweaked it with some foam insulation tape. Your next step should be the dual borla exhaust. It looks mean and sounds great.

The AEM does not have a top but once the hood is close it act as a top.
$5 CAI (http://www.youronlineparts.com/wst_page5.html)

I agree once you close the hood it acts like a top. I don't know how well it seals the filter but when you open the hood your filter is exposed. To me it just looks messy and unfinished. Why don't they finish the job and build a true housing for it is beyond me! Just my 2 cents worth

I have a new 06 Armada LE 4x4 w/TEch pkg and I went through the same process you did; I researched and read every posting relating to CAI and even checked out Titan forums. In my opinion, the Volant G3 is the only true cold air intake because it's sealed from the engine bay. The air comes in through the right front fender well like the factory box. The Gen 3 fits better and has a great looking blue aluminum cover. The install took me 1/2 hour and I am not very mechanically inclined. Other CAI expose your filter to hot air. The sound is also awesome. I've tweaked it with some foam insulation tape. Your next step should be the dual borla exhaust. It looks mean and sounds great.

I do have these in stock on the site as we speak. I have sold a ton of these and they work really well and everyon had been happy. Great item.

The AEM does not have a top but once the hood is close it act as a top.
$5 CAI (http://www.youronlineparts.com/wst_page5.html)
How does this work? You buy naming tokens for $5 - $10 each so your name appears on the webpage? THen you may or may not win something? So the names on the page spent up to $50 for a chance to win a $250 CAI? I think I'm missing something. How does this work??

It's like a raffle ticket, $5 for on entry. If they get over 100 entry they will raffle of two. If your name is picked you win the intake. As of now there is 60 "ticket" sold.

Just make sure you buy the $5.00 token (or ticket) ...

doc did you take the protective blue film off the cover? Mine was blue until I took the film off and now it is a pseudo-carbon fiber looking aluminum.

Or did you get a newer lid than my G3?

The Gen 3 fits better and has a great looking blue aluminum cover.

Shoot turner, was I suppose to take off the plastic? I thought it was a protective cover like on my PDA. It hasn't been a problem with heat and I showed my brother with the QX56 and he liked the BLUE color. The Blue color looks sharp but I guess I can peel it off. :confused:

I suppose you could leave it on there, but thought maybe they had released yet another lid. ;-) I say leave it, if you like the look. I am curious after reading your CAI singing fix thread, however...that you got some weather stripping and placed on the fender opening and then re-installed? Now who is :huh:

Turner :D

Shoot turner, was I suppose to take off the plastic? I thought it was a protective cover like on my PDA. It hasn't been a problem with heat and I showed my brother with the QX56 and he liked the BLUE color. The Blue color looks sharp but I guess I can peel it off. :confused:

Do you have any pix of your mod'd rig? Sounds like you have some pretty neat stuff on there! Am thinking of getting that E&G grill...but did you pay nearly $300 for it? What is your impression? Install easy? Did you have to remove the OEM grill first? Did you install the lower? Not sure that I wouldn't just install the upper myself.

Shoot turner, was I suppose to take off the plastic? I thought it was a protective cover like on my PDA. It hasn't been a problem with heat and I showed my brother with the QX56 and he liked the BLUE color. The Blue color looks sharp but I guess I can peel it off. :confused:

Yo sturner06:

How do you add a pic?
I would love to show you my mods.
The easiest mod is replacing the front bulbs with Sylvania Superstars; went to walmart and spent about $70 for high and low beam. The model numbers are 9006 and 9007. Took literally 10 minutes. Email me and I will give you detailed info if you want.

The grill took longer and you really need to take the front grill off to do it especially if you do the lowers. I ordered mine from ebay for $260 or something like that. The lowers come with it. Taking off the front grill sounds scary but it's real easy. Open the hood. Remove the plastic vents from the right and left corners. Use a screw driver and pop out the tabs. Then with a long screwdriver look for the plastic screws. Twist them quarter turn on all of them and pull. The front grill comes right off. tHE E&G GRILL is an overlay that fits like a jigsaw over your existing grill. The nissan burger is left intact. Installation is reverse instructions. Took a few hours but I went real slow and meticulous. Becareful not to scratch our plastic chrome bumper. Meineke did the install on my borla for $75. I ordered the borla from SOCALMOTORSPORTS.COM for $700 delivered. I love the sound!!! It's not loud except on hard acceleration and then it sounds deep and low. of all the mods the borla is the best. better performance, nice sound, and the twin tail pipes look great.

Are u driving in auto mode? I have been switching around without really any difference in mpg. My next job will be when I get 3500 miles then I will replace oil with MOBIL 1.

later dude

Doc,

I have no idea on the pic post, maybe someone else can help you out on that one?

As for the previously discussed airbox mod with weather stripping to where the box mounts below as well as to the fender....I did that and noticed NO difference whatsoever. Of course, I, too...improved mine via the dynamat lining the lid and the majority of the inside of the box, so perhaps the net effect is the same for both? Only yours cost $3 and mine cost $30. LOL

Drive around in Auto? Yeah...I did for the first 1500 miles or so, since that is what the dealership recommended...but after seeing several threads herein, I opted to go back to 2wd mode and only Auto in heavy rains or situations where I anticipate limited traction. I have not noticed any milage differences either.

ST

Yo sturner06:

How do you add a pic?

Are u driving in auto mode? I have been switching around without really any difference in mpg. My next job will be when I get 3500 miles then I will replace oil with MOBIL 1.

later dude

First of all the throttle body spacer is unnecessary with a CAI. It is designed to give you even more horsepower, but is very insignificant.



How much did your freind or you pay for it, on the website it shows the intake but there is no box like the Volant, can you take some pics installed

I agree once you close the hood it acts like a top. I don't know how well it seals the filter but when you open the hood your filter is exposed. To me it just looks messy and unfinished. Why don't they finish the job and build a true housing for it is beyond me! Just my 2 cents worth

they build them this way so when they dyno them WITH THE HOOD OPEN they can show decent gains.

Trueflow.com has the best system Ive seen so far.

We sell all these systems, all on our website, www.burtmanindustries.com

The true flow is pretty good system and we've sold quite a few, but desn't give as much power as others.

Oh, so youve dynoed them all personally and can say which ones performed the best?

Oh, so youve dynoed them all personally and can say which ones performed the best?

Same question to you mach1? Have you dynoed them all or seen each one personally up close? Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

I'd say that since Jason deals with these mods on a daily basis, with the customer feed back he gets alone, that he knows what he is talking about. I'd take his word. Hell he sells just about every type of CAI so whats he to gain by hyping one over another?

Same question to you mach1? Have you dynoed them all or seen each one personally up close? Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

If I had that info, why would I be asking him for it? Duh..And im really surprised you can tell any power increases by looking at them. If u can do that, you are a special one and shouldnt be spending your time here, maybe you can solve world hunger or something


I'd say that since Jason deals with these mods on a daily basis, with the customer feed back he gets alone, that he knows what he is talking about. I'd take his word. Hell he sells just about every type of CAI so whats he to gain by hyping one over another?

I couldnt disagree with you more. Unless his customers all dyno their intake purcahses and get back to him, he has no more knowledge of these things than anybody else. Selling car parts doesnt make one an expert. Go ask the guy at autozone a question sometime..

If he has special knowledge, he should be more specfic. If he doesnt, he shouldnt make those statements.

I guess Ill be banned now for being right and talking back to a "mod". :damn:

Mach1, you stated in your post above:

"If he has special knowledge, he should be more specfic. If he doesnt, he shouldnt make those statements."

Doesn't this apply to you also?

You also stated:
"Get the Billy Boat. It oozes quality and sounds the best by far. it is expensive though."

But you don't have one of these systems. It doesn't sound as if you have ever seen or heard one of the systems in person. How many exhaust systems and intake systems have you examined to determine the quality of them? Which of these systems have you installed and tested on your own Armada?

Many people on this forum make statements based on modifications they have made on their own Armadas. Several, myself included, have made many tests to determine how well these systems perform on their vehicles. How much of this have you done? What have been the results of the modifications that you have done to your Armada? People here would be much more willing to accept your opinions if you have any first person experience to back them up.
You have been very quick to comdem others for the opinions they state. How about applying your criticism to your own opinions.

Lol....I dont even own an Armada.

I didnt say the billy boat made more power or less than other exhausts. I dont know if it makes more or less, and frankly I dont care. I said it was made out of top quality materials, sounded great, and was expensive. All information that anybody could verify on thier own easily enough.

So you still didnt answer the question. If the trueflow makes less power than the others, how does he know?

Its clearly not fact, but opinion based on, well, i dont know what is was based on, thats why i brought it up.

Maybe he would like to answer himself instead of having you butting into his business.

Lol....I dont even own an Armada.

I didnt say the billy boat made more power or less than other exhausts. I dont know if it makes more or less, and frankly I dont care. I said it was made out of top quality materials, sounded great, and was expensive. All information that anybody could verify on thier own easily enough.

So you still didnt answer the question. If the trueflow makes less power than the others, how does he know?

Its clearly not fact, but opinion based on, well, i dont know what is was based on, thats why i brought it up.

Maybe he would like to answer himself instead of having you butting into his business.

You don't own an Armada. I knew that, and that is exactly my point. You have never done a mod to an Armada, you have never seen any of the equipment that have been discussed here, you have no basis to make any evaluation of any of the members mods.
And anything that goes on in this forum is my business. Your attitude and negative posts serve no usefull service to the members here. You just don't seem to understand that. There is no need to continue this.