I saw this thread on titan forum and was curious to see what our Qx/Armada owners tow.

9,000 pounds of stone.

18' Bow Rider with a 5.7L Mercruiser :D

Rage'n 2124C LX toybox 21'-6" body #6k+ empty #8k+ loaded

BigTex 50LA 6.5' x 14' utility #1350 lbs empty #5000 GVWR

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2005 SeaRay 270 SunDeck, about 8,700 lbs

See signature.

Keith

I tow a 2004 SeaRay 240 Sundeck with a 6.2L Merc, aluminum dual axle trailer with surge brakes, I'm guessing around 7500-8000 lbs, it towes like a champ. I also tow a utility trailer loaded up with whatever I need to move, or my 04 Kawasaki Prairie 700 Quad, along with my sons 150 Dinli Quad. Sorry cant figure out how to get the picture up, heres a link.



http://www.searayowners.com/pics/40Sundeck240/2005-11-29_065208_IMG_0200.JPG

We tow a 24' HiLo Travel trailer. It weighs between 5500 and 6000 lbs loaded. With the low design and weight, it tows very well.

Ken

I tow a 23' Outback w/slide. I figure 5k but need to find a local scale to verify. If anyone is familiar with the SoCal/ NV 15 run...i pulled the Cahone Pass at 65. Maybe pushing it a little hard but keeping up with a Dodge diesel with a 25' trailer. I also cruised up that Baker Grade at 55 with plenty of pedal left. I am more than happy with the towing capabilities.

2002 Eliminator 28 Daytona

A light load compared to some of yours.

Towed this 2000 miles like it was nothing. Payload weight is maybe 6000lbs total with all my tools and wheels/tires in the truck.

Looking to get my own aluminum trailer eventually.

There is only 10 of us who tow something???? Come on everybody what do you pull!

If you don't have anything to tow, why drive around in a huge truck?

[QUOTE=pstorti]There is only 10 of us who tow something???? Come on everybody what do you pull!

I think thats a rather personal question for such a pubic board.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

There is only 10 of us who tow something???? Come on everybody what do you pull!

If you don't have anything to tow, why drive around in a huge truck?

Cause I can!! :duh: :duh:

show-off :D

Fancy meeting you here. Maybe you and Ralph should work on some light weight forged wheels for the Armada. We three all have such great taste!

Fancy meeting you here. Maybe you and Ralph should work on some light weight forged wheels for the Armada. We three all have such great taste!

LOL.. I've been busted! Yeah look at what the cat dragged in.

I picked my Armada up a few weeks ago.. and have been going back and forth on what to do... I have gone from contemplating 6" lifts to doing absolutely nothing. But I have this itch that just needs scratching!

I wonder what the RS198 would look like with a 305/55/20 on it. Normally they run them on Cayennes with a lower profile tires.. so I don't know. Too motorsportish for the 305/55?

One thing.. I bet we could get it to come in under 25 lbs. without sacrificing the load rating. Reading posts here has me thinking just about everything that is currently available weigh a ton.

I can twists Ralph's arm all day.. with you on board we would just need two more victims to make them a reality. :)

You made a great choice..... these things tow like a mother. Great for haullin' to the track!

LOL.. I've been busted! Yeah look at what the cat dragged in.

I picked my Armada up a few weeks ago.. and have been going back and forth on what to do... I have gone from contemplating 6" lifts to doing absolutely nothing. But I have this itch that just needs scratching!

I wonder what the RS198 would look like with a 305/55/20 on it. Normally they run them on Cayennes with a lower profile tires.. so I don't know. Too motorsportish for the 305/55?

One thing.. I bet we could get it to come in under 25 lbs. without sacrificing the load rating. Reading posts here has me thinking just about everything that is currently available weigh a ton.

I can twists Ralph's arm all day.. with you on board we would just need two more victims to make them a reality. :)
Nice wheel. I prefer the unclutter clean look.
Go for the supercharger, cat back and air, then it will look like you did nothing, but you will still have scratched your itch! Plus, you could blow by those folks towing Audis and Porches on their way to the track and claim its all stock!

Im guessing around 6k lbs.

There is only 10 of us who tow something???? Come on everybody what do you pull! :chillpill

My dad probably would tow but the only problem is he doesnt know how .
but the car is great for carrying a bunch of people and stuff and it's quite good in the rough stuff. :chillpill

-Son of SQS

Nice boat and motor JMC, who built it? how much HP, that HTM must haul ***!!

SQS start with something light but not too short its easy!

Nice boat and motor JMC, who built it? how much HP, that HTM must haul ***!!

Thanks!! The engine dyno'd @ 1185 horses with 11 lbs. of boost. I backed the boost down to 8 lbs. just to be on the safe side. The boat has quite a history as I am the second owner. At 11 lbs it has run a 10.20 quarter @ 112 mph. This is turning a 26 pitch prop @ 7400 r's It was beat buy another 24' HTM that ran a 9.90! The boat ran 121 on GPS with 6 people last month. I have been told it will run over 130 mph.....but thats faster than I want to go!

Check out the videos at there site, make sure you choose the big vids and not the "dial up friendly version".

http://www.hightorquemarine.com/

That's an amazing 1/4 for a boat what kind of drive do you have that stands up to that kind of punishment?

I'm sure with that power if you went up to 34 or 36 pitch prop the boat would do well over 130mph.

Go here to play with the numbers and get an idea of what it could do:
http://www.go-fast.com/Prop_Slip_Calculator.htm
Enter known numbers to find an accurate slip then change things around to see the possibilities.

My boat only goes 91mph but I only have twin 496 mags (375hp ea). I'm planning on getting a Nortech with 1150's next we'll see how my year goes.

Thanks again Pstorti! I just noticed you have a REAL boat! 28' Daytona with two big blocks! Very nice! As far a big pitch props Im close to being at max with a 32 pitch Bravo 1 prop. Im running a 1.30 gear in a XR upper case with all the Teague heavy duty internals. Its such a high speed case It puts serious stress on the drive with the 32. I always baby it out of the hole and Im always easy on the gas and easy off it, especially when running fast. I get a little nervous everytime I go out. If Im not worried about losing a lifter Im worried about grenading the drive. If you pull off that Nor-tech next year let me know 'cause Im going to come be your "gardner"/"poolboy"!! :D

http://www.nor-techboats.com/boats.html


Semper just got in a couple new Daytonas that look great. Check them out.
http://www.semperspeedandmarine.com/ If you have ANY urge for another Eliminator call Mark (owner). I have been into fast boats since '92 and these guys are at the top of my list! Marks personal boat is also for sale...Its the 2 time bridge to bridge record holder @ over 150 mph :eek: And yes he spanked several Skaters and Nor-techs in a Daytona! Here is a picture of the engines. Fastest Elim. ever tested

I tow this, but only 2 miles to the launch ramp and 2 miles back to the vaca house in Havasu. It is an 05 26Sig Commander with a 496mag. Just enough motor to get me over 60mph if the wife and kids are not with me. :D

I really like that color combo.

I really like that color combo.

Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, I purchased it use, so the previous owner picked the colors. It is eye catching though.

Don't have any pix. Have to get some made.

I tow a 24 ft. equipment trailer loaded with a Kubota M4030 U five cylinder diesel farm tractor, usually with either a multigang disc or a 7 foot Bushhog attached. Tractor tires are filled with water for stability and traction. Total weight of load and trailer is between 8,000 and 8100 lbs with the disc attached, depending on how much fuel is in the tractor.

I'm about to put a front-end loader on the tractor and that will up things a bit too, but I think I can still tow it.

You have seen my toy in an earlier post, here is a pic of my toy at the last race.

http://www.europrints.us/06vir02/Sprint/08/img_6084_std.jpg

On the trailer before a trip.

http://www.clubarmada.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1987

Here's my old Titan pulling my camper to Hot Springs, Ark. but my Pathy pulls it great also.

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Here's my old Titan pulling my camper to Hot Springs, Ark. but my Pathy pulls it great also.

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nice Titan and views :cool:

Anybody pulling an enclosed trailer of any kind with the Armada? If so, how does it pull? What type of gas mileage do you get?

I am trying to aquire a 24' enclosed for the racecar. I know there was a member on here with a Mustang who switched from an enclosed to an open deck.

nice Titan and views :cool:

Thanks, have a good one.

2002 26' Bunkhouse Camper

5500# dry ......

Just gettin' used to it ........


Murray

This is a 35 ft Salem LA Dry weight 6950. "Mada pulls her fully loaded with 40 gallons of fresh water@8.3lbs a gallon, 13 gallons of gas, 1/2 a cord of Firewood, two coolers packed with beer and soda w/ice and food in the fridge, along wit clothes for 5 days, and my 10horse Generator when we went to the NASCAR Race at Pocono in PA last weekend. 230 miles 1 way. Pulled like a DREAM. Passing semi's UPHILL going 65-70. No idea what my final weight was but had to be pretty close to max. Hope these pics show up. I think I did them right.They are as attachments.

Be nice now;)

Be nice now;)
Looks to me like you are pulling close to max. also. LOL.
As long as it works, go for it. However I need to ask, have you ever been pulled over for having your rear license plate covered? Just wondering.:)

Be nice now;)

sweet:D :cool:

Looks to me like you are pulling close to max. also. LOL.
As long as it works, go for it. However I need to ask, have you ever been pulled over for having your rear license plate covered? Just wondering.:)

Yup, thats my Max for now, and so far, I have not been pulled over, but I can see it coming:cool:

Jayco 1207DD tent trailer, about 5 years old. Grosses about 2500# and is about 20' from ball to spare tire. Hardly know it's there most of the time.

I can finally add myself to the "what do ya tow" thread! lol

We just picked up a 2007 Coachmen 19FLB. Overall trailer length is 23' 9". The weight is ~4,300 dry. I used a class III hitch with no sway control or weight distrobution...........and it still towed great. I have a class IV WD hitch on backorder coming from Nissan.

I wish the Nissan Titan "Big Tow" mirrors camecheaper than $400. And I'd like them to keep the puddle light......on top of the chrome, signal, heat, and memory.

I opted for the silly Eagle Vision strap mirrors. They work well however, and I saved $300. But damn they're ugly! :rolleyes:

EuroHazard - recommend you cancel your WD hitch from Nissan, and buy the Equal-i-zer hitch (make sure you get this brand name, not a clone). This hitch has weight distribution and sway control together, and is a breeze to use. Check this website www.equalizerhitch.com for a description. This is a good place to buy one http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog/home.php?cat=74, they have it for $399 right now, a good price. Check out this forum www.rv.net/forums for a lot more on this and other RV-related topics.

Copy that Campfamily. The thing is, I didn't "pay" for the hitch. Our local Nissan dealership messed up on a number of things when we bought our Armada, so they footed the bill on some goodies. (class IV hitch, touch up paint, and all weather mats)

The hitch however has been on back order for 2 months now, and it's starting to piss me off......especially now that I have taken delivery of my trailer. I will call them tomorrow. Perhaps they have some chrome, heated, memory tow mirrors on hand. I'll take those, then buy the Equal-i-zer hitch.

p.s. I have read the raving reviews, and I believe even a few of yours here at ClubArmada about the equal-i-zer. I am impressed, but I thought it might not be nesessary since my trailer is pretty light and small. More to follow.........and thanks for lookin' out! Euro

I opted for the silly Eagle Vision strap mirrors. They work well however, and I saved $300. But damn they're ugly! :rolleyes:


They are McKesh clones, love mine, they have been on my last three tow vehicles and helped with three different trailers/campers. Very versatile and effective and will probably outlast me.

Just recently pulled our 2006 Jayco 23B from TN to FL. The weight is approx. 4500 lbs. The Armada performed great. I couldn't be more pleased with the Armada

There is only 10 of us who tow something???? Come on everybody what do you pull!

If you don't have anything to tow, why drive around in a huge truck?

On my hubbys race days we tow the G35, his tools, me, my daughter and soon to be new puppy.

Other than that I drive a huge truck cause I like to feel like I can run over stuff!

Plus it get's people out of my way (compared to driving my daily Honda Civic)!
:machinegu

To be honest...Nothing as of now, wasn't really my concern at the time of the purchase or now. We bought it for the space, looks, all the bells and whistles and that it's Nissan. Although it feels good to know that if need be, I can pull/tow anything worth up to 9000 lbs.

:hi: my mada tows a 21ft hurricane deck boat with 200 hp yamaha
four stroke,6 adults, and beer. can not wait to get the gibson ss exh and injen air box. it should help the low end. tows great !! almost as good as my diesel 6.0 excursion.

Tow nothing but air:D. It gets kinda rusty down there (the hitch) and so I just recently painted it with some black paint lying around with a paintbrush..turned out pretty well and has been holding up:D.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/panda_86/NewYorkJuly2007009.jpgHere is a recent pic. 24ft chaparral deckboat.

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i tow both of these at one time

Great thread....keep the pics comming.

This is a 2007 Regal 1900 bowrider (19' 9" I believe). It has a 225 hp Volvo V6 engine, and I've had it up to 55 mph. This is our first boat, and we love it. I have 30 hours on it already!

I pull a Key West 19-6 Bay/Reef with my '08 Armada. The trailer/boat/engine/fuel combination was just slightly over 3,000 lbs when I weighed it. The Armada does a great job with this load and much better than the '99 Tahoe that I used as a tow vehicle previously.
I usually make one fishing trip a week to the Panama City, FL, Apalachicola area, and the distance is about 160 miles roundtrip, (to Panama City). I usually average a little over 12 miles a gallon, and that's with a light foot, and keeping the speed below 65.
od
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05 LE towing a 06 Gulfstream Gulfbreeze. 24Ft about 4400lbs. can't even feel it.
Used to tow it with a 05 Xterra. What a struggle.
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Do most people on here that tow, just have the factory trailer hitch?

I have the tow package on my '08 Armada and just use the hitch that came with the package-it seems to handle 3000 lbs quite well.
od

I have the tow package on my '08 Armada and just use the hitch that came with the package-it seems to handle 3000 lbs quite well.
od



Thanks for the info man.....just wanting to make sure the factory one is ok.

Thanks for the info man.....just wanting to make sure the factory one is ok.

Factory will work fine.

I get so jealous hearing people that get over 10mpg while towing. i am lucky to get 7MPG. I do tow a big boat with all the goods on it maybe running around 8000 pounds.

I get so jealous hearing people that get over 10mpg while towing. i am lucky to get 7MPG. I do tow a big boat with all the goods on it maybe running around 8000 pounds.


Damn thats a big boat. Pics??

Damn thats a big boat. Pics??

Pics are a page or 2 from this posting. I have a habit of filling the gas tank before a trip on the boat that holds 65 gallons. The water tank has 15 gallons. Boat's weight is 4800 plus the trailer and all the gear.

I towed by brother's 21' ski boat this weekend and averaged 7-8 mpg.

My brother usually tows the boat with his 4Runner with the 4.7 V8 or his buddies Denali with the 6.0L. He said couldn't believe the difference on how well the Armada towed. Said it put his 4Runner and the Denali to shame.

I towed by brother's 21' ski boat this weekend and averaged 7-8 mpg.

My brother usually tows the boat with his 4Runner with the 4.7 V8 or his buddies Denali with the 6.0L. He said couldn't believe the difference on how well the Armada towed. Said it put his 4Runner and the Denali to shame.

That makes me feel a little better

We bought the Armada specifically to tow our 23" Caravelle Interceptor. Love this truck!

^^ thats badass

Here's my old Titan pulling my camper to Hot Springs, Ark. but my Pathy pulls it great also.

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How do you like that pop-up, what model is it and what location is that?

Aww, hell.......I just noticed this thread is WAY old!!!!!!!! Damn whomever for dragging old threads back up!!!!!! :p

We bought the Armada specifically to tow our 23" Caravelle Interceptor. Love this truck!
Welcome to the club officially metalaxe! Nice A$$ boat!

I don't tow anything. :(

Thanks BlakSpyda. Glad to be here!

Sorry to dig up such and old thread, but I joined this forum to learn more about towing with the Armada. I used to tow a 23 foot Trail Lite (3500 pounds dry) with my 07 Armada LE 4X4 with the towing package. I could pass on two-lane highways like there was nothing behind me. Got about 10-11 MPG. The family talked me into a 30 foot (33 total length) Salem Bunkhouse Superslide, and the dealer said I could tow it no problem. It weighs 6500 pounds dry. It tows great at 65 with no wind and flat pavement. I towed that rig 8 hours with all three rows filled with people, four bikes on my roof rack, and a bike in the trailer. Probably was pushing 8000 pounds additional weight. Got about 7 MPG. But as soon as it gets windy I get quite uncomfortable. I got caught in a storm with 60 MPH cross winds. I made it through but wore quite a bit of enamel off my teeth. It also gets very bouncy on concrete pavement. The kids in the back seat look like they're going up and down 6 inches. If anyone has any ideas what to do about that I would be very grateful. I've tried all the settings on my weight-distribution bars. I saw on an earlier post on this thread that the equal-i-zer hitch was recommended. I checked the website and bought it on the spot. I hope it makes me feel better!
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Sorry to dig up such and old thread, but I joined this forum to learn more about towing with the Armada. .....
Welcome to the Club!!!! :hi:



That is a SWEEEEEET boat!!!!
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Welcome to CA kvoolk!

2006 Super Air Nautique 220

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I pulled my 24ft over to central washington this weekend upwind and only got 5mpg. What kind of MPG do you get pulling that?

5mpg!!!!! you guys must have some serious hills out there!

I tow a 28 Eliminator Daytona with twin Big blocks on a steel trailer and I get 9-10mpg. I guess your wheels don't help either but 5 mpg wow.

I was thinking the same thing about the 5 mpg. Geeeez. I get more than double that towing a square travel trailer.

Of course the Cascade mountain passes are no joke.....they're not "hills"! ;)

Any new pics? I just got back from Thanksgiving vacation, I towed a pop up camper to Georgia. I had no problems and the Armada was great, although the camper only weighted about 1700 LBS. I will have pics up shortly....

Here is my tow toy!

Well here are my Mada tow pics....


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Found a pic of one of my toys I tow.

I'm gonna skip all the posts to add that towing anything above 5000 lbs and to say that the Armada tows like there's nothing is a bunch of crap! I can definitely feel the weight behind me. The Armada is great for your every once in a while towing, but towing with weight and watch your fuel mileage drop like you've sprung a fuel leak! I towed 6k between 50-70 mph depending on the speed limit 70 miles round trip and the darn thing used almost a half-tank of fuel.

Now with my diesel that's been heavily modified can tow 20k the same trip and barely use 1/8th a tank which would probably be equivelant to 1/4 tank of fuel for the Armada. I refuse to tow anything heavy with the Armada unless I install an electric brake controller. Thats should've come standard on these vehicles as with anything with a factory 7-pin plug. The Armada is made for the people who don't tow so often or heavy loads...it's an SUV. Leave the heavy towing for the true working trucks that are designed to handle heavy loads, like diesels.

I wish Nissan would come out with a turbo'd diesel Armada. I'd mod that out so fast someone would have to start to do some R&D because the wifey wouldn't be happy with a window through the side of the motor due to failed rods.

Danny, all of us that tow over 5k lbs have a brake controller (unless it's a boat with built-into-the-trailer surge brakes). And you should know that integrated brake controllers are still VERY new. Ford was the first a few years back (as an option on the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks), and GM has since copied it. But I doubt you'll ever see a 1/2 ton truck or SUV with an integrated brake controller.

p.s. I have a Prodigy brake controller (bought for ~$100) and installed it in minutes. If Nissan had some type of brake controller it would likely be lumped into a $750 package or something.

Do you care to say what type of terrain, elevation etc your "70 mile" trip was? I usually get 10 mpg while towing. So with a 28 gallon tank, 1/2 a tank is 14 gallons. 14 gallons at 10 mpg should equal 140 miles traveled, and that would mean you got a whopping 5 mpg.

p.s.s. Most trailer tires are only rated to go up to 65 mph. People (NOT pointing fingers, because I see it all the time) might want to keep at or under that threshold.

Tony, I have to agree with you.

I towed my trailer (see above) from Florida to Alaska and got 8.5 MPG. I stayed right at 65 and my trailer weighs just under 7K dry. The Armada made that trip with no problems at all. This thing (for an SUV) is a beast. Not in the same class as a 1 ton,,,but you cant put six people in the back and watch T.V. comfortably. :D

p.s. The only thing I had full was the propane tanks. We always stopped at full hook-up sites.

Thanks Pual for the input. So a 33' TT (travel trailer) is huge, and you got 8.5 mpg. 28 gallons x 8.5 mpg = 238 miles max range, with a realistic range (with a bit to spare) at ~210 miles. That's not a lot........and that's where a diesel truck with a huge gas tank has us seriously whipped!

But towing a 33' TT cross continent probably required a lot of patience and breaks along the way.

Tony, I would disagree with you on stating everyone towing over 5k has brake controllers. I would like to think that, but it's just not true. And where I live is roughly 330 ft above sea level. 1/2 of the trip was highway driving. 1/4 was city driving and the other 1/4 was slight hills of only a few percent grade. And in Oregon it's legal for passenger vehicles to tow at the posted speed limit. Now using this 1/2 tank of fuel was just leaving the fuel station and driving with the tow button engaged. Maybe next time I will try towing without the tow button, but I doubt the Armada will see anymore towing in the future unless I decide to install a brake controller. I'd rather pay the extra 50 cents for diesel and tow with the truck knowing it gets better mileage and would pay the difference in the long run. Unfortunately for me I should've filled the Armada back up and topped it, like I do with every vehicle, and hand calculated the mileage to give an exact report. Maybe someday when I have the extra cash to burn on fuel I'll do the same test trip.

I hear you about Oregon saying it's ok to tow at the posted speed limit.....but the limiting factor is still the tires. The whole rig is a system or a chain if you will. If one link in the chain is weak then the whole chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Wyoming has a speed limit of 75 mph, but if my tires are only good for 65 mph, then I'm only going to travel 65 mph.

What were you towing exactly? Just curious.

Thanks Pual for the input. So a 33' TT (travel trailer) is huge, and you got 8.5 mpg. 28 gallons x 8.5 mpg = 238 miles max range, with a realistic range (with a bit to spare) at ~210 miles. That's not a lot........and that's where a diesel truck with a huge gas tank has us seriously whipped!

But towing a 33' TT cross continent probably required a lot of patience and breaks along the way.

We typically only drove 4 - 6 hours a day, stopped for a few nights then did another 4 - 6 hours. Let me tell ya, there are some places along the AlCan (Alaska-Canadian) Highway where gas was over $6 a gallon. :eek:

Danny has us beat hands down...especially if he installed the extra tank in the bed. But,,the things we do to watch a little T.V. while laying back on a long trip.

I hear you about Oregon saying it's ok to tow at the posted speed limit.....but the limiting factor is still the tires. The whole rig is a system or a chain if you will. If one link in the chain is weak then the whole chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Wyoming has a speed limit of 75 mph, but if my tires are only good for 65 mph, then I'm only going to travel 65 mph.

What were you towing exactly? Just curious.

A 21' flat bed trailer double axle weighing roughly 2k and the Honda weighing roughly 3k. Tires are 225/75-15 8 ply, Max load cap. of 2540 lbs. each for a total of max weight of 10160 lbs. I'd say it's say to say that towing half the max weight of the rated tires with a speed rating of Q or 99 mph.

We typically only drove 4 - 6 hours a day, stopped for a few nights then did another 4 - 6 hours. Let me tell ya, there are some places along the AlCan (Alaska-Canadian) Highway where gas was over $6 a gallon. :eek:

Danny has us beat hands down...especially if he installed the extra tank in the bed. But,,the things we do to watch a little T.V. while laying back on a long trip.

No extra tank in the back, but soon to be stacks so I don't cause a black-out with the excessive fuel until the turbo lights up. And I understand where you're coming from about paying over $6 a gallon. In Canada they don't pay by the gallon which has lots of American tourists fooled. They pay by the liter!

And to all who've read my past post I'm not trying to downgrade the Armada or disrespect people who debate my posts. I'm just trying to be realistic about everyday life situations. Majority of the owners on this site are kids in there early 20s who think they have all the driving skill in the world, but towing is another realm of driving skills that must be mastered before truely being a safe driver. And sorry if I sounds like a butt at times...because this is the internet posts are often misconstrued.

i towed a toy box with 3 streetbikes in it from redding to monterey and averaged about 10, or just under. my buddy behind in a duramax towing slightly more weight got 14. if hes paying .50 extra per gallon, it works out pretty even. and as mentioned above, my kids got to watch dvds and recline their seats!! but someday i'll have my megacab and i wont have to use this armada for towing anymore....

...but someday i'll have my megacab and i wont have to use this armada for towing anymore....


I hear that,,when its time to go with a bigger trailer,,,it will also be time to buy another truck. I will keep the Mada...Taking the entire family out to eat in one vehicle - you cant beat that.

I have towed my ~5500# trailer over 7000 miles with my current Armada; did about 4000 miles with my 04. I consistently average about 10 mpg with the trailer. Do I know it's back there? Hell yes!!! But only because my acceleration is impacted, and my gas gauge drops quicker than without the trailer. As far as sway, or other "trailer driving the truck" symptoms, I don't have any of that.

As far as the brake controller argument, most states (perhaps all) require trailer brakes above a certain weight limit. Doesn't matter if they are surge brakes (no controller required) or electric brakes, but you must have some sort of brake on the trailer. In California, I believe the limit is 1500 lbs. If you don't think brakes are needed on a trailer, try disconnecting them and then do an emergency stop. Just make sure you have plenty of room, as well as a spare pair of underwear.

Yeah, a diesel dually will tow better than our Armada. But, stay under about 7500#s and the Armada is a surprisingly good tow vehicle, much better than just about any SUV out there, and probably most 1/2 ton trucks as well (Titan excluded, of course).

Keith

I hear you about Oregon saying it's ok to tow at the posted speed limit.....but the limiting factor is still the tires. The whole rig is a system or a chain if you will. If one link in the chain is weak then the whole chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Wyoming has a speed limit of 75 mph, but if my tires are only good for 65 mph, then I'm only going to travel 65 mph.

What were you towing exactly? Just curious.

See the orange car in my sig? That's what was towed :)

One of my show trucks..

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5709&stc=1&d=1197038470

......And to all who've read my past post I'm not trying to downgrade the Armada or disrespect people who debate my posts. I'm just trying to be realistic about everyday life situations. Majority of the owners on this site are kids in there early 20s who think they have all the driving skill in the world, but towing is another realm of driving skills that must be mastered before truely being a safe driver. And sorry if I sounds like a butt at times...because this is the internet posts are often misconstrued.
To put things a little more into perspective:

I don't think we have very many owners in their early 20s, this is a $40k-$50k vehicle. I think the average age here is probably closer to the 30s.

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7566

As for towing, you're right that only a handful of us do any real towing with the Armada and I'm not one of them. I only tow a flatbed full of a couple pallets of Sod or a Bobcat or Yard Equipment every once in awhile which leaves me out of these discussions. But I used to be a TruckDriver along with BlakSpyda and a couple of others so although it's a different arena, we do also know how to tow when needed. On these Tow conversation type of threads, you're going to get more facts from experience than theories from guessers on here. Most of the guys who reply on these are speaking from real experience. ;)

Agreed Pops............I have towed many things and spend over half the year dragging a boat around. Like most things in life, it takes some common sense and patience to understand and get comfortable with something of any size attached behind you!

I first started towing big stuff when I was 19yrs old. That was with a Ford Excursion pulling a 25ft. enclosed trailer when we raced the Nationals all over the Country. The Ford pulled like a dream, but Im just as happy with how the Armada tugs a full side truck, on an open trailer around. :)

I guess my biggest complaint is the mileage when towing. I'm just so used to hooking up 5000-15000 lbs and maybe noticing 1-5 mpg drop. Not at least half the mileage from the gas engine Armada. So sorry for all the unnecessary bashing against a great motor. Also, I might add that the towing was done with the 2* timing advance so that might have another impact as to why I got such crappy mileage.

I dont see it as a big deal.

All info should be welcomed here, no matter what the brand of truck.

I really like the input of a Diesel compared to the VK56. I've always thought of it as "The Diesel gets a little bit worse MPG's for daily non-tow driving but much better MPG's when towing". So when shopping, someone needs to consider how often they are going to Tow with it.

So far, most Diesel questions have been answered by speculations and hearing other peoples' inputs from somewhere else. It's nice to have someone on here who speaks from real experience and there's no doubt that a Diesel will toast any Gas engine while towing anyday but I've learned a lot more about other advantages from your posts. Quite enlightening. :)

First generation hot rodders were in the 60s with the muscle cars. Then the pony wars in the 70s and 80s. 90s were imports. The 2000s are diesel wars. I'll be honest and say I love the Armada for it's looks, performance, and spacious interior, but for towing a large load I'll stick to my diesel being that I'm lucky enough to have one. I used to race and show my del Sol until about 4 years ago.

I purchased my first diesel, which is what I currently own, because my 91 Chevy S-10 mushroomed a valve trying to tow 6k through the Siskyou Pass, elevation at the summit is only 4300 ft, but in either direction of 6 miles is 6% grade of 2310 ft. This forced me to get a newer tow rig. My brother is the one who convinced me to purchase the diesel as it was going to be used strictly for towing. I was adamant on not modding the truck. Then I saw videos of diesels racing. It's true...once you've been bitten by the speed bug there's no cure for it.

Let me add this. Diesels these days come detuned from the factory to meet emissions. Adding performance parts only unleashes extra easy to obtain power, but then compromises passing emissions. You can buy a factory Chevy Duramax 4x4 throw on an intake, exhaust, and a chip and hope the tranny lives and it will run 12s right out of the box. Not many vehicles can do this. My 7.3 Powerstroke is an underdog when trying to compete with the newer diesels, but it only costs $$$ to be able to play...unfortunately it's taken me about 5 years to get it where it's at.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I lost my train of thought somewhere and started to ramble on about why I got the diesel I think. lol. Sorry.

Reading from post #1 until now, it looks as if the SMOKE colored Mada's are the most popular tow pigs of the group. :)

Reading from post #1 until now, it looks as if the SMOKE colored Mada's are the most popular tow pigs of the group. :)

Maybe so,,,but the silver ones or black ones look the best. :D :D ;)

:p :p :p :p

Hey now, hey now...no bashing of my Smokey thank you very much! :p

Maybe so,,,but the silver ones or black ones look the best. :D :D ;)

And lets not forget the fastest too.

And lets not forget the fastest too.

You know,,,I was gonna say that. I sure am glad I am not the only one who thinks that.

:D

Maybe so,,,but the silver ones or black ones look the best. :D :D ;)
And lets not forget the fastest too.

Just because they LOOK the best and LOOK the fastest doesn't mean that they are. :nana:

Just because they LOOK the best and LOOK the fastest doesn't mean that they are. :nana:

Well, I keep mine waxed,,,which makes it smoother,,,which makes it faster.:D :goteam: :moon: :teeth:

Well, I keep mine waxed,,,which makes it smoother,,,which makes it faster.:D :goteam: :moon: :teeth:

Maybe if I parked a VW bug next to yours it would be fast! :clever: lol

I tow my baby:

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I tow my baby:

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Sweet ride. Details.......

Bringing my new KLX250 home.
http://www.allriskga.com/Dell/KLX250s-1.JPG

Goring road racing in my Prelude
http://www.allriskga.com/Dell/KIF_0026sm.JPG

always loved that color!

I tow our boat... a Crownline 240LS... about #7000's. I'll post some photos this spring.

Sweet ride. Details.......

New to me 1984 Porsche Carrera with Factory Turbo-Look, option code M491 (so, no turbo, but turbo body, suspension, wheels and brakes); also leather interior, limited slip and no sunroof. Stock (for now), but with later Cup replica wheels and VictoRacers.

She loves to auto-cross and go for spirited Sunday drives and is considering consenting to HPDEs. My wife calls her my 24 year-old mistress.

The Armada (2004 SE, w/ tow package) hardly knows she's back there. A pair of keepers.:)

Thought I responded before to this thread but could not find my post, so here we go. See my signature. My 1967.5 Datsun Roadster is pictured on my old open trailer. I now tow a 26ft enclosed trailer with my race cars.

14x6 trailer enclosed with 5 motorcycles no problems.

Nice pics Pstorti. I haven't had to tow anything yet but it's good to know that if needed, the TanK can do it!

WOW....this thread has been viewed over 8100 times in such a short time frame. Amazing! (either that or I'm simply amused! :D )

WOW....this thread has been viewed over 8100 times in such a short time frame. Amazing! (either that or I'm simply amused! :D )

Two reasons. First, a lot of us tow with our Armadas. And second, this thread was started over 2 years ago (Nov 2005). I'd bet it's the longest running thread, though.:D

I can't believe I haven't posted on this thread yet (or at least I don't think I have). This is what i usually tow; my trusty (slightly rusty) 1973 Ford 3000 with bushhog. Seen here being driven by my daughter under her uncle's supervision.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/demobud/DSCN0112.jpg

*sigh* so far I'm towing this:
http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/pics/5/9/59401.jpg

Here is my new trailer (bought about a week ago).
2009 KZ Spree 318BHS
We are taking it on a maiden voyage this weekend. I also saw an article today that KZ's business is up 65% this summer so I feel good about helping Indiana bounce back a bit.
Hopefully this pic works.

Here is my new trailer (bought about a week ago).
2009 KZ Spree 318BHS
We are taking it on a maiden voyage this weekend. I also saw an article today that KZ's business is up 65% this summer so I feel good about helping Indiana bounce back a bit.
Hopefully this pic works.
Wow! what a setup! I hope you have a great summer. I would imagine the lower gas prices has definitely helped the RV sales. You will have one of the hottest rigs in the campground.

Thought I posted some pics way back at the start of this thread. Here it is...

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o73/TopazM3/IMG_4126.jpg

Nice dog to tow...but isn't the Mada a bit of overkill for a pooch that size? ;)



Beautiful GT!!!

Nice dog to tow...but isn't the Mada a bit of overkill for a pooch that size? ;)



Beautiful GT!!!

she weighs 20# dripping wet!

JayFlight 29BHS 30' TT :D

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/PopsRacer/Travel%20Trailer/PICT1199.jpg
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http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/PopsRacer/Travel%20Trailer/04-25-09_1809.jpg
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http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/PopsRacer/Travel%20Trailer/04-25-09_1812.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/PopsRacer/Travel%20Trailer/04-25-09_1814.jpg

Tows like a dream...


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26' American Offshore ,5000 lbs. Love the way it tows. Now I just need to white out the Mada.
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/youBoat/data/500/medium/American_offshore_swim_steps_003.jpg

^ Nice! And welcome to ClubArmada!

Nice ride, oh yeah the Mada's nice too. Welcome to the club!!

Welcome to CA wuped!

Helluva nice lookink boat you got there! (as I drool) What kind of boat is that, you race it or what?

PS: Your Armada is nice too.:D

Spyda,
The boat is a 1997 American Offshore 26' cat, Powered by a Procharged 489 chevy, top speed is around 90mph, just for crusing around the Califorina Delta.

Friggin' suweeeeet! I like it!:thumbup:

We tow a 29' Surveyor with our 2007 LE. Towed it up and down the mountains in Pennsylvania, no problem!!

dude, i want more pics of the yellow gt3 above! i love those cars.

dude, i want more pics of the yellow gt3 above! i love those cars.


Here ya go... Turn 12 at Mid Ohio

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o73/TopazM3/IN014.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/mistadua/boat011.jpg
Is your truck 4x4? Nice boat Bayliner wright?

so i didnt take a picture, but i towed my 6x10 big tex utility trailer to the coast this weekend. the trailer alone weighs i think about 800lbs. i had 7 people in the beast, with th trailer loaded with 7 bikes, 7 chairs, 2 tents, and all the food luggage and beer as 7 people would require. if anyone here knows hwy 299 between redding and arcata, you know why i'm stoked about how well the armada did. this armada blows me away at how easy it makes something like this. and it just trucks along, no problems. i swear, i'm so impressed by this thing, the day the cancel the mada i'm going to go buy a new one.

and topazm3, thanks for the pics. i just watched the ama superbike races from mid-o last night, so that pic is perfect!! looks like an absolute blast!

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lol..I wish the armada had a 36K lb towing capacity or I would take one home

lol..I wish the armada had a 36K lb towing capacity or I would take one home

Ummm... Isn't that an F22 Raptor??? So you're working with the baddest piece of aircraft on the planet?? :eek: That's AWESOME!!!! :thumbup:

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lol..I wish the armada had a 36K lb towing capacity or I would take one home


Sorry to hear that the Senate cancelled any further Raptor production. Keep 'em in the sky!

so i didnt take a picture, but i towed my 6x10 big tex utility trailer to the coast this weekend. the trailer alone weighs i think about 800lbs. i had 7 people in the beast, with th trailer loaded with 7 bikes, 7 chairs, 2 tents, and all the food luggage and beer as 7 people would require. if anyone here knows hwy 299 between redding and arcata, you know why i'm stoked about how well the armada did. this armada blows me away at how easy it makes something like this. and it just trucks along, no problems. i swear, i'm so impressed by this thing, the day the cancel the mada i'm going to go buy a new one.

and topazm3, thanks for the pics. i just watched the ama superbike races from mid-o last night, so that pic is perfect!! looks like an absolute blast!


I watched the SBKs also. As much time as I have on the track (22 years), those bikers scare the Bejeezus out of me!:bow:

We tow a Layton 3360 w/slide and carry 14yr old boy, twin 9yr old girls, 4 year old Boxer, 7mo old English Bulldog, Wifey and myself inside no probs (except for backseat noise level at times......)

Sorry to hear that the Senate cancelled any further Raptor production. Keep 'em in the sky!


They canceled the remaining aircraft they were contracted to build. There are about 185 total and 134 are active flying.They are gonna keep them for along time just not make no more. They are putting the funding towards the F-35 project to get more because they are fazing out the F-16s/A-10s. Dont worry thats not classified info so dont call the pentagon on me...


Yes Pops that is the beautiful Raptor. I love working on that thing. If you ever get a chance to go to an airshow its well worth it to see those in action.

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Mostly this 8568 but I also use it for home improvement 8569stuff ;)

We tow a Layton 3360 w/slide and carry 14yr old boy, twin 9yr old girls, 4 year old Boxer, 7mo old English Bulldog, Wifey and myself inside no probs (except for backseat noise level at times......)

All I have right now that I tow, is my CR500 and my Sons 4 wheeler!
I can feel that i'm getting older the 500 beats the S out of my around the track!
I saw that 28 Daytona WOW I like that! I was at one point, going to by I think it was a Magnum Missle or 23 with an 200 OB (I love cat boats) it just never happened! sold my place on Winny, Married, kids, house.
Maybe next life!

Nothing usually, but recently a 15 foot trailer loaded with furniture. My Armada was an indispensable piece of equipment in my last move. Also, I recently towed a full-size Ford Bronco with 32' tires.

Glad to see everyone using their beasts, and yeah, they tow awesome. We bought an LE and all last year we towed a 30ft Surveyor. Up some steep hills too! We have upgraded to a 5th wheel and tow it with a F350 dually. But you'll never hear me brag about truck power though, the mada has plenty..........and is the best looking SUV out there. We still have it! Can't give it up. Maybe it'll tow a new boat? :ugogirl: