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: Transmission not engaging


stretch
07-17-2006, 09:59 PM
I did a search for this and didnt find any info.
I am having problems when I put the Mada in drive, it just revs up and bairly moves foreward. It has happend several times this week, but it also happend last year while driving through the desert during the summer. (not towing anything). This time, I was on a boat launch, pulling out my Jet Ski, so the SUV sat all day in the heat, it would not engage again. Wife had same problem once leaving the house. Lastly it happend on my way back from vacation, only driving for about 30 minutes, stopped to get gas, then I couldn't get it to go. I did have a trailer on it this time (3700 lbs), If i sit and wait, or try several times, it works. Once it works it has NO slipping what so ever, still great power. Finally saturday I dropped of the rental trailer, and pulled around waiting for the wife, once she got in, same thing. We waited for 20 minutes, then were able to go. I took it into the dealer, they are "still testing", but cannot duplicate the problem. Advisor said they are checking the database to see if this has happend to other Armada's. Anyone ever experience this in the past? ALso, sometimes the little squirkle around the P,R,D, 4, 3, ETC... disappears, and the SES light comes on. Oh, the AT CHECK light blinked 8 times as well several times as I was sitting in 109 degree weather.
Thanks

BlakSpyda
07-18-2006, 09:15 AM
I sympathize with you. Damn! You need to take it to the dealer for this one!

stretch
07-18-2006, 12:08 PM
I sympathize with you. Damn! You need to take it to the dealer for this one!

Ya, I am pretty bummed out right now, although its still under warrenty, I just want it fixed. Its going on day 2, as they are "still testing", hopefully today they resolve the issue.
I searched Clubtitan, and didnt really find anything like what the Mada is doing. I am thinking it has something to do with the heat, but not too sure. Does the tranny have some sort of fail safe mode? Its almost like its in neutral, but I bairly creep foreward.

BlakSpyda
07-18-2006, 01:07 PM
Ya, I am pretty bummed out right now, although its still under warrenty, I just want it fixed. Its going on day 2, as they are "still testing", hopefully today they resolve the issue.
I searched Clubtitan, and didnt really find anything like what the Mada is doing. I am thinking it has something to do with the heat, but not too sure. Does the tranny have some sort of fail safe mode? Its almost like its in neutral, but I bairly creep foreward.
Not sure. There is a cooling mechanism, but that shouldn't casue a disengage... at least I don't think so!

scr38
07-18-2006, 01:42 PM
The attachment will list possible problems. In any case you need to have the dealer correct it, with the exception of the fluid level. You can check that yourself.

ginune16
07-20-2006, 11:29 PM
It seems as though my Armada is doing the same thing, we just purchased it with 36k on it and had another brand new tranny put in it at the dealership (another story), and on the way back from texas to virginia my dad experiance exactly what you described. One dealership he stopped by on the way seems to think it has to do with water dripping onto some wires and messing up a computer that controls the transmission. But it was during the heat of the day that he experianced this and i find it an interesting coinsidence. He was on the highway going about 70 all 3 times. I have had it all day today and it runs perfectly. Took it to the dealer in virginia soon as I got it but they claim it is out of warranty (even though i just got a new transmission in it under warranty last week). Please keep me updated if you find out anything, I am afraid that this might happen while im on the highway and unable to pull over or something like that. Thanks.

stretch
07-24-2006, 01:53 PM
It seems as though my Armada is doing the same thing, we just purchased it with 36k on it and had another brand new tranny put in it at the dealership (another story), and on the way back from texas to virginia my dad experiance exactly what you described. One dealership he stopped by on the way seems to think it has to do with water dripping onto some wires and messing up a computer that controls the transmission. But it was during the heat of the day that he experianced this and i find it an interesting coinsidence. He was on the highway going about 70 all 3 times. I have had it all day today and it runs perfectly. Took it to the dealer in virginia soon as I got it but they claim it is out of warranty (even though i just got a new transmission in it under warranty last week). Please keep me updated if you find out anything, I am afraid that this might happen while im on the highway and unable to pull over or something like that. Thanks.

Well, I got my armada back last week, they said the fixed the problem. Apparentely the problem had to do something with the communication lines ( whatever that means) but what they said they did was clean the comm. lines, and the ground lines. Again, that is foriegn to me. Since then, I have been driving it like crazy, as my commuter car went out of commission. But I have not had any problems yet. I thought the problem had to do with the heat, but it has been hotter than hell in my part of the country, and have yet to have the problem again. I will post the codes that they pulled from the OBD II at a later time.

ginune16, I am not sure if we are having the same problem. My mada was not engaging from park to drive. Once it decided to work, I would not slip gears at all during regular driving, you might have a different issue.

stretch
07-25-2006, 02:12 PM
Well, I got my armada back last week, they said the fixed the problem. Apparentely the problem had to do something with the communication lines ( whatever that means) but what they said they did was clean the comm. lines, and the ground lines. Again, that is foriegn to me. Since then, I have been driving it like crazy, as my commuter car went out of commission. But I have not had any problems yet. I thought the problem had to do with the heat, but it has been hotter than hell in my part of the country, and have yet to have the problem again. I will post the codes that they pulled from the OBD II at a later time.

ginune16, I am not sure if we are having the same problem. My mada was not engaging from park to drive. Once it decided to work, I would not slip gears at all during regular driving, you might have a different issue.

F-ING ARMADA. Now its starting to piss me off. I spoke too soon. I got home from work, went to leave again, and the same problem....I started enging, and the circle around the gears on the display was gone. so instantly my SES light comes on. I pull out of driveway (reverse works just fine), put it in drive and the engine just revs up. DAMMITTTT. I have a feeling it HAS to do with the HEAT. that is the common factor. It was 107* and I was driving for about 45 minutes from work. I left shortly after I got home (well tried to leave). SO, we took wifes car, and when I returned home, I tried the MADA, and what do you know it works. Got to work just fine today as well. I am convinced it has to do with the heat. EVERYTIME it has happend, it has been HOT. I am going to take it to another stealer to see if they can fix it. its the 3rd time. I might start looking at some Lemon laws. Get the POS turned back in if they cant fix it, its redicilous. I can live with rattles, but not this.

Armada_24s
01-01-2007, 03:58 PM
I am having a simiular problem with my Mada. Mostly when its cold, when I hit a stop sting after driving not a block or two and get back on the gas it revs up then slips then engages. Feels exactly like when you but it in neutral and rev it up then slam it into gear. Any one else have this problem and what was it.

Cillyone
01-02-2007, 02:42 AM
This is the first I've heard of any real tranny problems with the Armada. What model year are your Armadas? Tow package option? Were they all purchased used? It almost sounds like a computer control problem/sensor or electrical connection rather than mechanical.

After looking at the trouble shooting chart;

Does it slip when you try any gear or just Drive?

hrmax
01-15-2008, 10:29 AM
Did anyone find a resolution for this? I am having the exact same issue but it's not the heat for me. It seems to only happen at the first real start from a stop after it's been started. It feels like it's in neutral and then it catches after a second or two. It's never slipped or done this at speed and doesn't do it after it's warmed up. It does seem to coincide with a tranny flush I got at the dealership about 3 weeks ago though. I am going to check the fluid when I get home. These are my unproven, possible hypothesis at this point:

1. Dealership didn't fill it back up all the way
2. Dealership filled it up with their crappy stuff they use to flush it instead of J-matic.
3. Since my tires need to be replaced soon, maybe when they are cold, the VDC is sensing some slip and overcompensating? Seems to happen at least less when VDC is turned off.

Pops
01-15-2008, 10:59 AM
#1: My $$$ is on #1. I've seen this caused way too many times from not topping the fluid off.

#2: I'm fairly certain that Nissan dealerships carry only J-matic.

#3: would only happen when on ice.

hrmax
01-15-2008, 11:08 AM
#1: My $$$ is on #1. I've seen this caused way too many times from not topping the fluid off.

#2: I'm fairly certain that Nissan dealerships carry only J-matic.

#3: would only happen when on ice.

I am with you on #1 but I am pretty sure dealerships carry a generic, junk AT fluid which they use during the flush as it wastes quite a few quarts to flush it and it wouldn't be cost effective to waste a few quarts of matic-J. This from what I have read at least.

BlakSpyda
01-15-2008, 11:15 AM
I would venture to say that they use only J-Matic. They would be causing many warranties to be voided if they didn't. J-Matic costs them nothing compared to what you and I would pay for it!

Pops
01-15-2008, 11:25 AM
I agree with Spyda, any left over residue that could be blamed for a Tranny failure would be more expensive than using J-Matic. If J-Matic was that expensive for them then Nissan would've gone with a different tranny design in a heartbeat.

hrmax
01-17-2008, 10:45 PM
I checked the tranny fluid and it is on the low end of the x'd out little grid on the dipstick. Where should it be? About 2 inches above that there is a label that says 'HOT'. That couldn't be where it is supposed to measure when the tranny is hot is it???

scr38
01-17-2008, 11:23 PM
I checked the tranny fluid and it is on the low end of the x'd out little grid on the dipstick. Where should it be? About 2 inches above that there is a label that says 'HOT'. That couldn't be where it is supposed to measure when the tranny is hot is it???
No, that is NOT where the fluid level should be when hot. The "Hot" marks which side of the stick you use when the fluid is hot.
Look at attachment.