To make it fast, not for better towing purposes. I mean how much faster could you make it? Even with the S/C, exahust/filter/fan knick nack things... headers if they make them yet? I still cant see that SUV being much faster than a stock Cobra. How much does it weight??? Around 5200 pounds kerb?? Your two cents here.

i personally didnt buy it so i can make a speed demon out it. if i wanted something i can toy with speed wise i woulda gotten an STI? i havent even taken it past 90 mph and dont think i would want 2.

Is it worth souping up? Yeah! Would I, no! However, if that is your thing... go for it!

There are several things you can do to make the Armada quicker. However, even with a SC you probably can't get any quicker than the low 13s. Without removing the speed limiter you can't go any faster than 114 MPH.

Is it worth souping up?

Only if you think it is. I mean it would be fun to take a no option 2WD SE, and strip it down, gut the interior, dip the body panels in acid, remove the AC, add a supercharger, and make a sleeper.

Personaly, I with the others here......If I wanted a bad *** fast vehicle...it wouldn't be a 5600 lb vehicle.

I will say it is great for towing fast vehicles....to the race track....

There are several things you can do to make the Armada quicker. However, even with a SC you probably can't get any quicker than the low 13s. Without removing the speed limiter you can't go any faster than 114 MPH.
Low 13s?? That would take alot of work out of a 5500 pound beast.

sweet. so thats your mada huh RON! nice

that is it, thanks....

Low 13s?? That would take alot of work out of a 5500 pound beast.
It will take work, but I think the mid 13s are reachable. My Armada, with just a CAI, cat back and TBS has run 14.69. The Head, on ClubTitan ran a 13.90 with a 80HP shot of nitrous. He had a CAI, resonators replaced with higher flow units, stock exhaust manifolds, smaller diameter rear tires. (He no longer has the truck)
I think with the Stillen stage 2 SC matched up with a good exhaust, intake and tires, ECM reflash, etc you could be in the lower 13s.

My 2cents: don't care too much for speed otherwise we would've bought a Ferrari ( :D as if we can afford it..hey it's free to dream) but i'd modify the truck to where you can get as much better mileage as it can and features that make driving and using it more comfortable. Of course there's always something nice to add on but I'm in it to enjoy the ride. but that's just me....

Besides how often and how many places can you drive faster than 80 mph, anyway? Whithout getting the attention of the long arm of the law.
I'd rather drive in comfort, safety, style and know I have enough power to pass and get out of the way when needed (and if I can save some fuel in the process - so much the better) is really all I am looking for.
Not to mention maximising the life of the drive train and related components - keeping operating costs in check.
Just my opinion on this subject.

Besides how often and how many places can you drive faster than 80 mph, anyway? Whithout getting the attention of the long arm of the law.
I'd rather drive in comfort, safety, style and know I have enough power to pass and get out of the way when needed (and if I can save some fuel in the process - so much the better) is really all I am looking for.
Not to mention maximising the life of the drive train and related components - keeping operating costs in check.
Just my opinion on this subject.
I drive 85+ on average 3 hours a day, every day, and have for years. I floor it every time at every light, take every off ramp at max speed, etc. I drive for a living and really just love going fast and can't remember driving under 10mph+ over for the past 20 years. Police won't pull anyone over for 10mph. I pass several every day. The extra 5mph can be shed quickly enough with a detector. Speed limit on highways in FL is 70 BTW. Clean license thanks to good radar detection. I'm more for acceleration however than high speed. I'll use one of my other cars for safer high speed runs. The vette's broken 150 and the G35 was clocked at 122, but that's not on the license any more and was 3 years ago. I had been driving that speed and more for 90 minutes before being nailed. ;) BTW, if you insist on driving speed limit or just over, please stay right. Thanks. Hopefully, these draconian speed limit laws will be removed someday allowing us to have a US autobahn, which BTW is safer that US highways in terms of deaths per miles traveled. What's mileage? I own an Armada.
As for the Armada, I want it to run like a raped ape. My only reservation is that I might want to put the same money toward a new vette, etc. Since it isn't my only vehicle, it doesn't have the priority for the mods at this point, not to mention I still need furniture for about 3000 sq ft of additional floorspace. Decisions, decisions. :crikey:

Keep racing on the track and driving on the road. I agree with slower traffic keep right (something the europeans understand but Americans do not!).

I would not want to exchange driveability for speed in my Armada. I thought about the SC but then realized that 8mpg would really hurt my feelings...and eventually my wallet.

I drive 85+... BTW, if you insist on driving speed limit or just over, please stay right. Thanks. Hopefully, these draconian speed limit laws will be removed someday allowing us to have a US autobahn, which BTW is safer that US highways in terms of deaths per miles traveled.
Here, here!
I agree with slower traffic keep right (something the europeans understand but Americans do not!)
You know it just chaps my hide :pullout: when folks refuse to move to the right lane when they are messin' traffic up. If they are passing on the right... I must be wrong! Some folks just don't seem to get it!:duh:

That is why they make signs indicating "Slower Traffic Keep Right" but they don't know what that means!

I drove the autobahn for 5 years! Not that I think we should drive at unreasonable speeds here, but if you see a vehicle coming up on you in the rear view mirror, get out of the way. Don't dare flash your lights at anyone here unless you are a cop, because they might shoot you or have a road rage attack! (Intermittent Explosive Disorder - IED)

Haha

My 2cents!

Well, souping up the car doesent mean its to go faster for the high end race. Little quicker off the line, that sort of thing. I just see alot of raised trucks souped up. Thinking of just raising mine and doing the same with some knick knack things.

It will take work, but I think the mid 13s are reachable. My Armada, with just a CAI, cat back and TBS has run 14.69. The Head, on ClubTitan ran a 13.90 with a 80HP shot of nitrous. He had a CAI, resonators replaced with higher flow units, stock exhaust manifolds, smaller diameter rear tires. (He no longer has the truck)
I think with the Stillen stage 2 SC matched up with a good exhaust, intake and tires, ECM reflash, etc you could be in the lower 13s. Thats pretty quick for an Armada. Where did you run at to get the eta and trap?? Yeah, Titans are alot lighter.:mad: :mad:

Thats pretty quick for an Armada. Where did you run at to get the eta and trap?? Yeah, Titans are alot lighter.:mad: :mad:

I agree... not saying it can't be done with our SUVs... I read a lot on here and on the titan forum... some guys that modify (cai, exhaust, timing advance, tru trac, etc, etc) seems like they have a hard time getting under 15s... But i'd be happy to see an armada/QX hit 13s... if and when that does happen, i'd like to know how they accomplished that kind of feat!

What really funny is when ppl believe that every option they add drops eta times and raise the trap speeds. It get's harder around 13s and adding ten hps here and there wont drop even tenths of a second. But when the stock qm is in the 16s a drop to a mid 14s with some knick nack things. Thats impressive.

Let's say that if I was totally into fixing this Armada up race ready I would. I would pull out the motor port the heads, hook up the pistons and rods and bore it out and throw every illegal thing in there, dump it real low, and be ready for the street. But It already is a beast in itself. Maybe in 20-30 years when you don't have to smog it. I say it is worth tricking out with or without turbo, supercharger or anything else that Nismo and JDM make for her. If you know Nissan, like I'm sure Mr. Ron does and as myself, Nissan is worthy.

Keep racing on the track and driving on the road. I agree with slower traffic keep right (something the europeans understand but Americans do not!).

I would not want to exchange driveability for speed in my Armada. I thought about the SC but then realized that 8mpg would really hurt my feelings...and eventually my wallet.
I could not agree with you more. And God help us if we ever allow people to drive as fast as they do in Germany. I will start walking to work.
Too many non driving ignorant drives (think they are Juan Crash Pablo) they would need to be totally reprogramed and reeducated. Nor would most cars on the road today be safe to drive at those higher speeds. I would guess 75%of our licensed drivers wouldn't even pass their driving test, with good reasons.

Guess we'll just have to put it in the Red states.
Did you ever think that they could put entrances to the US autobahn that would require the drivers to have passed a specific driving test and education program, paid for by them, and that the vehicles require a specific inspection, again paid for by the owners? It would be fully funded by the drivers on the autobahn and populated entirely by qualified drivers and vehicles. In Germany, you often see trabaunts, 40 mph cars made in the 50s left over from East Germany on the autobahn. No problems. You also have potatoe trucks going 50mph. No problems. Any vehicle sold today in the US new is safe for autobahn use. Most are far more advanced than the ones that were on the autobahn just 5 years ago. The autobahn isn't full of Porsches, its full of VW Jettas and Japanese equivalents. :crikey:

Guess we'll just have to put it in the Red states.
Did you ever think that they could put entrances to the US autobahn that would require the drivers to have passed a specific driving test and education program, paid for by them, and that the vehicles require a specific inspection, again paid for by the owners? It would be fully funded by the drivers on the autobahn and populated entirely by qualified drivers and vehicles. In Germany, you often see trabaunts, 40 mph cars made in the 50s left over from East Germany on the autobahn. No problems. You also have potatoe trucks going 50mph. No problems. Any vehicle sold today in the US new is safe for autobahn use. Most are far more advanced than the ones that were on the autobahn just 5 years ago. The autobahn isn't full of Porsches, its full of VW Jettas and Japanese equivalents. :crikey:
That's right TB. I saw a SH-T load of the East German Trabaunts on the side of the autobahn over my time there. When I got there, I asked if I had to drive as fast as everyone else did. I was told, "You will do it after you get used to it." Before I knew it, I was driving 120 mph plus daily! No special training or anything. My military vehicle was a Chevy Suburban and my POV was the 1990 Mitsubishi Montero LS, US built. Lets not forget the GM factor in Deutchland, the Opel is just as prevalent as the VW.

Exactly. Speed doesn't kill, stupidity does. In Germany, they don't talk on their cell phones on the autobahn, they don't pass on the wrong side, they don't crowd the fast lane, and heck, they didn't understand why people wanted a cup holder. Who can drive and drink a soda? They drive, not screw around. In the US, the speeds are so slow, people feel safe doing other junk, which in the end, makes it more dangerous.

Exactly. Speed doesn't kill, stupidity does. In Germany, they don't talk on their cell phones on the autobahn, they don't pass on the wrong side, they don't crowd the fast lane, and heck, they didn't understand why people wanted a cup holder. Who can drive and drink a soda? They drive, not screw around. In the US, the speeds are so slow, people feel safe doing other junk, which in the end, makes it more dangerous.
Wow! That is the second time we agree. That makes a lot more sense than your first reply.
In all fairness I agree there were/are trabants on the road, but they hardly pose any danger, except when they try to pass those potaoe trucks, that are limited to 100km - fullish since the trucks are faster than the totally underpowered Trabants. At least they know better and keep right (not the case here, sadly). Also, you all misread my statement about our cars not being unsafe - I was referring to all those rust buckets that have the potential of going 100mph+ but are totally unsafe at almost any speed. And since we are at it; regarding driving skills (special training) I agree it does not take long to get used to driving 120 + mph, but what concerned me are all those morrons that think they have to hog the left lane, zig zaging thru traffic, squeezing themlves in between cars when there is barely a car length between you and the car in front, cutting across three lanes to catch an exit etc...and that at 120 + mph - no thanks. At those speeds rules and commen sence take precedence or there will be total kayos. I also agree with you, we should be able to drive at higher speed especially since we have greater distances between cities and much more open country than they do.
Hopefuly one day. How about some decent mass transit, so that the morrons have a way to get around - keep the streets and highways to the more responsible people.:D

That's what strong law enforcement fixes. Give people $500 for blocking the fast lane, passing on the wrong side, etc. and use the money from the fines to fund unmarked vehicles and you'll see how fast that lasts. ;)

I will say it is great for towing fast vehicles....to the race track....


Nice Mada and I agree with you perfect truck to haul a race car. Plus I agree with the rest of you get a sports car, like a GTO, or maybe the new dodge Challenger. MY 2 Cents.

All in all. I think if you decide to slightly mod the Mada meaning knick nack stuff, headers, electric fans, air intake that sort of thing its for getting up on on other SUV's and better towing.

i did some subtle mods to my esclade EXT with the 6.0. I did a volant cold air intake, TBS, speed chip, flowmaster duals and programmer. My Mada still spanked that A#$ stock. It a pretty decent engine with a lot of potential.

I just got beat by a V6 Hyundai Tiburon today! lol

I mean, he had momentum, but still..............all things being equal, he won.

It was from about 55 MPH to 100 MPH.......at that speed, I let up, and I wasn't catching him.

Is it worth souping up?
yes and yes.. THe way i look at it is when you decide to go fast on the highway and someone try to race you, with a smaller car than the mada;if i don't beat him, atleast i will make work hard for it. just for the fun of it.going fast is easy, but going fast in 5500 lb is a challange, and I like to challange.

Souping up doesn't mean top speed only also. It could also mean acceleration. Acceleration is actually a safety feature. The faster you can pull out into traffic, the more safely you do and the less likely you are to be rear ended. It also helps you get out of the way of someone not paying attention, like a mac truck that decides to change lanes into your lane. Hitting the gas might get you out of harms way faster and easier than the brake. If people realized the gas petal is as much a safety feature as the brake, there would be far less accidents.

After much money and time (decades) spent modifying motorcycles to make them faster I have come to the conclusion that if you want a vehicle significantly faster then the one you have now, you should sell it and buy a faster one. It is not cost/time efficient to dump money/effort into any major modifications and most likely compromise the reliability when you can find something "off the rack" that has a valid warranty. I have spent thousands on a motorcycle mods only to have the OEM manufactures come out with a bigger, badder and better bike just a couple years later that would wax my hot rod and be reliable to boot.
Small inexpensive mods to tailor the trucks usefulness for your activities are money well spent, but lets say, a turbo or supercharger is like flushing your money down a toilet, you will never see it again and most likely it will increase your chances of being stranded beside the road.
Now if I really wanted to go faster in a truck I would just go out and get one of those V10 Viper powered Dodge trucks and be done with it. Hmmm....Now how can I sell this idea to Moma? Naw, I got my bikes.

Cillyone,
first I had the same idea about selling the car and buying a faster one, but I will lose money when i sell my car.The faster car will be more expensive than mine. Therefore, overall i will be loosing lots of money.also, do i have the money at the time of purchasing the car!!!!? when I bought my 2005 armada i was on the edge with money. if i had more money i think I would get a faster car. But i look around and found armada was the best in the market.

Cillyone,
first I had the same idea about selling the car and buying a faster one, but I will lose money when i sell my car.The faster car will be more expensive than mine. Therefore, overall i will be loosing lots of money.also, do i have the money at the time of purchasing the car!!!!? when I bought my 2005 armada i was on the edge with money. if i had more money i think I would get a faster car. But i look around and found armada was the best in the market.

Point taken, but the money you spend on mods you will never see on resale, they might even hurt the resale value. That money could be banked and put towards another future purchase.

Interesting how this conversation changes....

cillyone,
I totally agree with you, but you know when you want to have something at the time you want it, you become brain damage and everything around you is dark ( the only thing you can see is what you want )!!! But after you have it, you start thinking..what if.. then it is too late.

cillyone,
I totally agree with you, but you know when you want to have something at the time you want it, you become brain damage and everything around you is dark ( the only thing you can see is what you want )!!! But after you have it, you start thinking..what if.. then it is too late.

Don't think too much, just get it. Happy birthday:D

Thank you for reminding me..wow... I forgot about my birthday. My gift to myself is volant combo and the scangauge2. :D

I wouldn't fault a person for making minor modifications or adding bolt-ons to increase power a bit, within reason. With a vehicle like this the only reason would be to increase acceleration.

I do have concerns about all of the people talking about racing others on the street. If you are really interested in "stretching its legs" take it to the track Most cities have a dragstrip within a reasonable driving distance that have open street nights. for $10-$15 you can make as many passes as you want and get a timesheet telling you exactly what your vehicle is capable of. You can even race heads-up with friends for bragging rights. Taking a 5k lb vehicle over 100 on our highways is just asking for trouble.

I personally wouldn't mod it out, but that's because I already have a car to dump my disposable income into..

I wouldn't fault a person for making minor modifications or adding bolt-ons to increase power a bit, within reason. With a vehicle like this the only reason would be to increase acceleration.

I do have concerns about all of the people talking about racing others on the street. If you are really interested in "stretching its legs" take it to the track Most cities have a dragstrip within a reasonable driving distance that have open street nights. for $10-$15 you can make as many passes as you want and get a timesheet telling you exactly what your vehicle is capable of. You can even race heads-up with friends for bragging rights. Taking a 5k lb vehicle over 100 on our highways is just asking for trouble.

I personally wouldn't mod it out, but that's because I already have a car to dump my disposable income into..
You go Chili!

That's one of the smartest things I have heard today. Even though I get the big head sometimes, it isn't safe to be racing anyone on the highways. Nothing like making a mistake that can cost your life or much worse, someone elses! Nothing scares me more than to see someone challenging me, only to find out they have their kids in the car with 'em. Or, you roll up on them only to see a baby seat in the vehicle. Eeeesch!

Thanks for bringing me back to earth!

You go Chili!

That's one of the smartest things I have heard today. Even though I get the big head sometimes, it isn't safe to be racing anyone on the highways. Nothing like making a mistake that can cost your life or much worse, someone elses! Nothing scares me more than to see someone challenging me, only to find out they have their kids in the car with 'em. Or, you roll up on them only to see a baby seat in the vehicle. Eeeesch!

Thanks for bringing me back to earth!

I hope it doesn't sound as if I am on a soapbox or anything. Nor am I trying to suggest that I don't 'get on it' from time to time in the Mustang. I just see too many people doing crazy stuff in the middle of congested highways, apparently inspired by the "Fast and Furious" lifestyle, with little regard for anyone else. There is a time and place for that stuff. Most of the racing related deaths I see around here are in SUV's, not really what you would expect. It is very easy to lose control of these things at high speed and the results are usually devastating.

My car is pretty loud with wide rear tires and an aggressive stance, so I constantly have people throwing revs at me and trying to goat me into a race on the highway or at stop lights. On rare occasions I will oblige them but usually late in the evening and only when the road is clear. Other than that I just don't see the need to take the risk. I had a Corvette pull up on me while driving down the freeway at 5pm on a Sunday. I had my girlfriend and her 18 month old daughter in the car. He kept pulling up next to me and gunning it, then giving me a thumbs down outside of the window since I wasn't following suit. This guy looked to be in his 40's and was acting like a teenager in pretty busy traffic. I just don't get that.

He kept pulling up next to me and gunning it, then giving me a thumbs down outside of the window since I wasn't following suit. This guy looked to be in his 40's and was acting like a teenager in pretty busy traffic.

Just once I would like to see one of these idiots blow his motor while gunning it at a light... I would laugh....

I usually give these testostrone junkies an indicator that I am going to give them a run, like anticipating the light with a slight roll forward.... and then cruise off the line and let them haul a$$ down the street...

Racing is for race tracks (and drag strips)....

I agree with you BRE, take it to the tracks. Yeah those guys who like to pick on us have nothing else better to do. But you know at least your vehicle still has the potential to become a real threat to those other SUV's or even cars for that matter. They just want to test out the stock 305hp under our hood so they can have braggin rights of beating a 5000lb car vs a 2000lb car...go figure. I'd still give them a run for their money.
Back to subject of supping up the MADA. Would I do it? HELL YEAH!

A little traffic light 0-60 on a closed road never hurt anyone. I do it with or without anyone next to me. However, messing around going too fast on back streets or busy highways, cutting off, tailgating, i.e. F$%king around is dangerous and should be left to the track. I see too many kids slap a fart pipe on their civic, lower it, and then think its a race car and use the local streets as their playground. This is just asking for trouble. Speed doesn't kill, stupidity does. ;)

Speed doesn't kill, stupidity does. ;)



That is the perfect statement TB



:)

I like that TB " speed doesn't kill, stupidity does".. well, i am very smart and I like supping up cars coz I like the fun of it, but not racing in the street. I just do it so when i need to pass someone on the highway i have the horses under the hood to do it.

What about an modern day extra cab F- 250? Are they quick? I got a neighbor who thinks my Mada is a pos.

What about an modern day extra cab F- 250? Are they quick? I got a neighbor who thinks my Mada is a pos.

They are if the have the turbo diesel and have been modded..

I will say though, any Ford owner who refers to a Nissan as a POS is questionable from the start. I even own a Ford, and let me tell you, quality is NOT job one.

I have a friend who investigates automotive failures to determine if the manufacture is at fault. He has seen the sensor at the end of the brake mastercylinder fail on the larger Fords causing brake fluid to leak into the sensor and start a fire! This is a recall item now...the fix is a fuseable link, and Ford is not repairing the problem, they are applying a band-aid.

Sounds like your neigbor is uninformed.

Sounds like your neigbor is uniformed.

What, like a cop or something?

Oh wait, you probably meant uninformed..:D

What about an modern day extra cab F- 250? Are they quick? I got a neighbor who thinks my Mada is a pos.
You'd crush him if its stock. Rides like a brick. Clunky interior. Poor quality control. Its a better choice if you need to tow over 9k vs a Titan, but that's about it. Have him take the mada for a spin.

I think it depends on the owner. I might do a couple of little mods, like intake and exhaust.

Stock mine ran 14.9's easily, at close to 91 mph. With a few more runs I could have worked off a couple of tenths, but I was there to race my Z.

It's nice having such a big SUV that will beat some so called performance cars. The Armada felt as stable as a train on RR tracks too. I don't think I would want take it around a road course though. ;)

The Armada felt as stable as a train on RR tracks too.
Damn good analogy! only SMOOTHER!

If I wanted a fast car, I'd kept my SS.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9D4B1C72-990F-4226-97EF-75BAADEA4562.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8C755F91-A610-4E49-98EC-4BCD884F026F.htm

If I wanted a fast car, I'd kept my SS.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9D4B1C72-990F-4226-97EF-75BAADEA4562.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8C755F91-A610-4E49-98EC-4BCD884F026F.htm
That's Hot! Good looking vehicle and fast!

I would have had a great video, if the guy driving the SRT-4 hadn't chickened out. He was about to line up next to the Armada, but had seen the previous 14.9 second pass. He wasn't able to break his stock SRT-4 out of the 15's, lol.

Armada stock best.

http://i2.zvhost.com/2/i/i76g36w3.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/1873757263602476/mov00002-1/*matt1180)

I would have had a great video, if the guy driving the SRT-4 hadn't chickened out. He was about to line up next to the Armada, but had seen the previous 14.9 second pass. He wasn't able to break his stock SRT-4 out of the 15's, lol.

Armada stock best.

http://i2.zvhost.com/2/i/i76g36w3.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/1873757263602476/mov00002-1/*matt1180)

What was your 60' on that 14 sec pass?

If I wanted a fast car, I'd kept my SS.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9D4B1C72-990F-4226-97EF-75BAADEA4562.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8C755F91-A610-4E49-98EC-4BCD884F026F.htm

I had an 11 second 93 RX7. It was so beautiful, black with tan leather. The car had a Greddy T78 single conversion, street porting, and various other suppoirting mods. I should have kept her! She made 452 rwhp with a modest tune, could run high 11's with the stock clutch slipping in 3rd and 4th gear. I had more planned for her, but couldn't afford to keep the car at the time.

Copy and Paste the links into a new window.

Dyno run.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid86/p2a703553b123f5446fc5c3b5a226c1c6/fab14a3d.mpg

Walk around, notice the street port overlapping exhaust note.

http://www.imagestation.com/video/view.html?id=4207532427&dl=1

What was your 60' on that 14 sec pass?

2.159 with the tires spinning off the line. I could have worked it down to a low 2.0, maybe a very high 1.9.

I'll try again this fall.:)

Nothing like a V8, especially when you smack a 4 banger with it. ;)

I would have had a great video, if the guy driving the SRT-4 hadn't chickened out. He was about to line up next to the Armada, but had seen the previous 14.9 second pass. He wasn't able to break his stock SRT-4 out of the 15's, lol.

Armada stock best.

http://i2.zvhost.com/2/i/i76g36w3.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/1873757263602476/mov00002-1/*matt1180)

14.9 isn't bad at all.. I may have to take mine to the track Sunday and check it out and embarass some Civics.. Anything you do to prep it for the run, other than turning off the VTC? Put it in tow mode maybe? Are you just flashing the throttle it or stalling it up on the launch? If you're stalling it up, what RPM are you launching at?

BTW.. When my Mustang was stock, on stock tires, the first time I raced it my best 1/4 mile was something like 14.30 :o

Oh, and that SRT-4 driver cannot drive for crap if he couldn't get deep into the 14's. He should be able to get to a 13.9x with a stock SRT-4.

14.9 isn't bad at all.. I may have to take mine to the track Sunday and check it out and embarass some Civics.. Anything you do to prep it for the run, other than turning off the VTC? Put it in tow mode maybe? Are you just flashing the throttle it or stalling it up on the launch? If you're stalling it up, what RPM are you launching at?

BTW.. When my Mustang was stock, on stock tires, the first time I raced it my best 1/4 mile was something like 14.30 :o

Oh, and that SRT-4 driver cannot drive for crap if he couldn't get deep into the 14's. He should be able to get to a 13.9x with a stock SRT-4.

Yeah, I know the SRT-4 driver was bad. He could not launch it for anything.

I just pulled up to the line, stalled it to 1,500. Other than that, nothing else was done. VDC was off.

Do you suppose the soft Conti tires helped, or hurt, or have you already replaced them?

Do you suppose the soft Conti tires helped, or hurt, or have you already replaced them?They didn't help much. I am going to see if they respond to a little heating next time. We are now on our second set of Conti's.:)

Do you suppose the soft Conti tires helped, or hurt, or have you already replaced them?
Contis won't do anything. They are really poor tires. The only difference for acceleration though would be to swap out the contis for something lighter. Larger rims, etc. would be heavier.

Michelin cross terrain SUV is far better a tire and will last longer than the contis making up the price difference. Smoother, quieter, better handling, etc. than the conti junk.

I like the Michelins, but the price difference was far too great at the time.

I was just thinking as a drag tire, the Conti's might be good for that, given they're crap otherwise.

Tirerack has them for $185 each.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Cross+Terrain+SUV

I'm already working on it in a way...K&N drop in, Flowmaster, Have an AirRaid on order-it sounds souped up anyway and it definitely has more oooommmmph off the line.
I think that if it makes you happy then go for it!! You can't ask for a better engine to tinker with-anybody know how much,if any, extra HP the above mods may add? I'm hoping some maybe 10-15 extra HP.

R/ Carter

I'm already working on it in a way...K&N drop in, Flowmaster, Have an AirRaid on order-it sounds souped up anyway and it definitely has more oooommmmph off the line.
I think that if it makes you happy then go for it!! You can't ask for a better engine to tinker with-anybody know how much,if any, extra HP the above mods may add? I'm hoping some maybe 10-15 extra HP.

R/ Carter

Are "choke"masters better than the stock muffler? I know they are not better than a stock Camaro SS muffler...dyno proven.

The problem with the camaro wasn't the flow through the muffler, it was the pipes leading up to it. A cat back with high flow headers and cats would wake up the camaro performance. The flow will only be as good as its most restricted point. As for a flow on the Armada, cat back add flow on our vehicles. We gain some in the upper torque bands and give up less but some in the lower torque bands. The motor needs a certain amount of back pressure to make max HP and at lower RPM it doesn't have sufficient back pressure. This is why most Hondas, etc. actually have less HP after a cat back or fart pipe are installed. They sound like chain saws, but they loose 10hp. Since most people putz around in the lower bands, stock is better for them. But for max acceleration, a cat back works. Also, many people just buy them for sound. If you add an intake and advance the timing 2 degrees, you should notice a good pickup, probably 3-5 tenths in the quarter.

My question was if the chokemaster muffler flows better that the stock Armada muffler.

As far as the camaro, I was talking about a LS1 w/ long tubes and high flow cats will flow better(more WHP) thru the stock muffler than thru a chokemaster muffler.

According to the guys at the shop that installed it the Flowmaster should breathe much better that the smaller diameter original pipes. The FM increased the pipe diameter by 1/2 inch-doesn't sound like much but I notice the difference. I think that with the AirRaid added it should work even better with increased air induction.
Thanks
C

PIPO,
Nice video on the Fayetteville Speedway. How long has it been since you got rid of the SS. I believe I've seen that car in action a year or so ago. Fast Car!!

PIPO,
Nice video on the Fayetteville Speedway. How long has it been since you got rid of the SS. I believe I've seen that car in action a year or so ago. Fast Car!!

Thanks! I sold it like 2 months ago :( .

Well I have added all the mods to my MADA that makes me happy. I aggree with everything said in here and to simplify all that was done, is simple.......slow drivers need to learn to stay to the right, and also need to learn to use the DAMN signal turns. That is why it was invented.

I like to drive fast too......just like the other guy, but I keep it fast only when i can......if it is busy traffic, then i drive conservatively, not because i worry about my skills, but mainly because i don't trust the other drivers, and since we can not control what others do, then i keep it low.

I have raced many times at tracks with cars, and motorcycles, so i guess it is easier to keep it safe(r) on the streets. Now in Miami, when i need to release some steam, i go to the KART TRACK.

Yeah, as long as your know your limits. Thats half the battle. Just enoguh power to get the domestic truck non-belivers to think twice.

most people are under the impression that a car is an 'investment'....wrong, its a 'liability'.....every mile you drive you are losing money...i dont see modding finanically smart. I did my after market dvd as I knew i could get it cheaper/better than the factory...

most people are under the impression that a car is an 'investment'....wrong, its a 'liability'.....every mile you drive you are losing money...i dont see modding finanically smart. I did my after market dvd as I knew i could get it cheaper/better than the factory...

I aggree with you. The reason i MOD is because i enjoy it. I also buy as entry level as possible and add the rest i need, because it is cheaper and better in my opinion.