Well I'm debating on what to get for my first car. Here's the list (btw. it'll most likely be a used car):

- 350Z Coupe
- G35 Coupe or Sedan
- BMW 3 Series Coupe..maybe Sedan.. (newest gen.)
- Volvo S40
- Audi A4
- Acura TSX
- Acura TL
- Porsche 911 (2000 model)

Or the alternative..getting a old used Civic and souping it up :rolleyes:

what no ARMADA?

Forget the Acuras and Honda. They are the biggest junk on the list.
Audi is more old man car as is the Volvo, which is for guys like Alan Alda. The 3 series or G35 is a good young sofisticated ride. The 350z is also fun but less practical and easier to get in trouble with. I'd get a G35 coupe or 330 coupe. The 911 is great but really expensive to keep. Though you could afford the sticker, the upkeep is 2-3 times higher than the rest. Why not a Cobra Mustang? That's what I'd want at your age. It'll slaughter everything but the 911 performance wise, has a real motor, handles, and looks mean. C5 corvette is also a good pick vs. all the above. Faster than all of the above, including the 911 and you can get one for $20k. Pop on a supercharger for another 5k and a system and you'll be styling with 500hp and a real torqe curve, which all the above except the 911 lack. Do yourself a favor and try them. Couldn't hurt, then you'll know why they are legends and masters of the road. And remember, I own a G35 and 1.8T Jetta, the same motor in the A4. ;)

Porche911 anytime, any year. I used to have a 1977.:cool:

My vote goes to the 911 if it's a turbo one, or like tripleB says a 03-04 Cobra or a 02-04 Z06.

get a beater manual, learn to drive it take your lumps, then get get something off that list.

My 16-1/2 year old son's first car is a truck. We just helped him (loaned $) get a 1985 Toyota SR5 XtraCab 4wd 5spd pickup with a fresh 22RE motor, clutch and brakes..etc... It is simple, slow, reliable, economical, cheap to insure and easy to maintain (mere mortals can trouble-shoot and fix). Cost him $3k and most likely he will get nearly all that back when he sells it, maybe more. KISS is the best advice I can give you.

honestly nobody should get a sportscar for a first car...

A. it's not as much fun when you didn't earn it..

B. you're likely to crash it within the first year... all that power, RWD, and you won't floor it? I bet you will on the dealer's driveway...

C. Insurance is extremely pricey...

At the end of the day, it's your money, get what suits you...

I'm just amazed that you go from civic to 911 in the same post...

If you haven't driven at all and are using this to learn, get an old beater and learn on that. Manual is best. Drive it for 6 months and then switch. This way you won't have costly repairs for any lapses while learning.

Well I'm debating on what to get for my first car. Here's the list (btw. it'll most likely be a used car):

- 350Z Coupe
- G35 Coupe or Sedan
- BMW 3 Series Coupe..maybe Sedan.. (newest gen.)
- Volvo S40
- Audi A4
- Acura TSX
- Acura TL
- Porsche 911 (2000 model)

Or the alternative..getting a old used Civic and souping it up :rolleyes:
I will give you credit for goo taste in vehicle. However, at your age, unless you are paying for it yourself and you parents are helping you with the insurance, I would do like the rest of the "old heads" (Me included) in this forum said and get a Beater with a stick shift! I do not know how much driving experience you already have, but I am sure you will get more soon. A stick shift will get you prepared for two of the vital things you will need to drive. Coordination and concentration! With an older beater, you will not have to pay so dearly fo the eventual mistakes, misjudgements and mishaps that you will make. Trust me we all have made them!

Get something cheap and safe! Statistically you have a 78% chance of wrecking the first car you purchase if you are 16 years of age! Pay cash and get full coverage, you will need it. My first car was a 1978 mercedes d300 that I payed 1,800 bucks for. It wouldnt go over 65 mph and it took two miles to get it up to this speed!

Well like everyone said. Get a HONDA and sup it up. That will teach you the MODS, driving a somewhat reliable car, but be aware, it is not safe at all.

MODS are cheap, compared to European Cars or higher end Japanese sport cars.

Good Luck.

Well, I have a lot of experience in driving. I can handle the Armada very well and I drove a G35 coupe, my Mercedes E-Class, and my BMW X5 and they all are very simple to drive..and fun. I really like TB's idea of the cobra, but then again I think that will be a little way too much horsepower for me...and it'll tempt me way too much to either race someone. For the civic, I'm not into them at all. My parents will cover me fully for my first car. As for stick shift...you gotta just love them:) The mercedes and the X5 have tip-tronic and it's pretty fun switching gears, but I know it's not the full real experience of manual, since it automatically switches for you if it sense an overshift/under.

Well, I have a lot of experience in driving. I can handle the Armada very well and I drove a G35 coupe, my Mercedes E-Class, and my BMW X5 and they all are very simple to drive..and fun. I really like TB's idea of the cobra, but then again I think that will be a little way too much horsepower for me...and it'll tempt me way too much to either race someone. For the civic, I'm not into them at all. My parents will cover me fully for my first car. As for stick shift...you gotta just love them:) The mercedes and the X5 have tip-tronic and it's pretty fun switching gears, but I know it's not the full real experience of manual, since it automatically switches for you if it sense an overshift/under.
Well good luck then Young Buck! Get what you can, but make sure you let your parents know that you appreciate it!

Did you consider a 77 or newer Targa?:cool:

I love the targa, but the lowest price I'm getting for one is a 2000 (I believe) Targa with 50,000 or 60,000 KM on it for $45-ish g's? However, if I were to get a porsche, the 933 would be at the top of the list :)

I'm confused with the post asking about your first car but you're stating that you've had cars before...

Not trying to be trouble but I'm just confused... if it's not your first car... then go for a good one...

Just remember knowing how to drive a straight line and real driving experience are two different things...

If a guy in a porsche revs his engine at your cobra, would you rev back or just laugh...

The answer will decide how mature you are and whether you are prepared to own a different kind of beast... one that breaths fire...

good luck on your choice..

How about the '06 IS 250 AWD? It's a pretty decent car for $40,000 CAD.

Here are some deals on some Porsches which I've come accross:

1999 Black Porsche 911 - 31,900KM $49,000.
1996 Black Targa - 78,500KM $47,000
2000 Black Porsche 911 996 w/GT3 look - 25,000miles $46,000
1999 Silver Porsche 911 - 45,000KM $43,000

I'm confused with the post asking about your first car but you're stating that you've had cars before...

Not trying to be trouble but I'm just confused... if it's not your first car... then go for a good one...

Just remember knowing how to drive a straight line and real driving experience are two different things...

If a guy in a porsche revs his engine at your cobra, would you rev back or just laugh...

The answer will decide how mature you are and whether you are prepared to own a different kind of beast... one that breaths fire...

good luck on your choice..

Well i'm turning 16, about to get my first car. The other car's which I've stated were my parents.

Hulio, there's a reason a lot of folks are suggesting you don't go to fast (or squirrelly - Porches are known to be a bit that way) or expensive. We've all been there and know that things happen quicker than you realize until it happens to you. If I think back to all my highschool buds, everyone crashed into something, at least once! I'd have to go with Cillyone and say a get something like a late model Tacoma xcab or something, that way if you curb it (who here didn't curb a car their first year or two?) chances are you might just drive away instead of breaking a 45k sports car. IMHO, once you get a good 30 kilometers under your belt then start thinking upgraded rides. Either that or get a WRX, cheap and great in the snow!
As a matter of fact, ask your parents if you can put the difference into stocks, then maybe you can buy a new Porsche in a couple years!

Well Hulio,
If you drove already, have your parents backing you up, then geezzz. get what you feel like and within budget, but remember you are throwing a list of cars for all kinds and tastes. You should narrow down to what set of wheels you are looking for. I went from a 350Z to an Armada, because i wanted to feel safer, specially with my kids around. Once i made that decision about safety, ARMADA was the best pick of the bunch.

I think once you decide what is the purpose of this car, then it should be easier to find the one. Right now it seems that you have a budget and is trying to decide what is the best bang for the buck...either way, it is your choice. I would only suggest to find out what is the main purpose and objectives for your first car/truck.

This is my .02 cents. Good Luck and keep us posted.

I don't want to sound like an old man but this is ridiculous. My parents had enough money when I turned 16 to buy me cars on the level we're talking about here. Did they? No, they had a brain and a sense of responsibility. My first car was a Mercedes diesel with 750K miles on it. It went 0-60 in 28 seconds. I couldn't drive it in some areas because the hills were to steep, but it was a tank. I could have crashed into a wall and been safe. Over the years I had different cars, each one I purchased with money I made, not that I was given. I finally made enough money to buy an STI and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. This talk of buying a 16 year old kid a four wheel rocket is ridiculous and your parents judgement is seriously in question. I don't blame you because you're 16 and what kid wouldn't want an awesome car, but your parents are highly questionable.

My first car was an Isuzu IMark four cylinder diesel. 0-60, oh, in about a week! You had to turn off the AC to go up a hill. When you hit the "accelerator" the smoke plume would rival James Bonds smoke screen. I later bought a 1972 Opel Gt for 900 bucks and rebuilt it. It was a much more fun car.

I don't want to sound like an old man but this is ridiculous. My parents had enough money when I turned 16 to buy me cars on the level we're talking about here. Did they? No, they had a brain and a sense of responsibility. My first car was a Mercedes diesel with 750K miles on it. It went 0-60 in 28 seconds. I couldn't drive it in some areas because the hills were to steep, but it was a tank. I could have crashed into a wall and been safe. Over the years I had different cars, each one I purchased with money I made, not that I was given. I finally made enough money to buy an STI and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. This talk of buying a 16 year old kid a four wheel rocket is ridiculous and your parents judgement is seriously in question. I don't blame you because you're 16 and what kid wouldn't want an awesome car, but your parents are highly questionable.

My parents have taught me very well on how to drive, and you're questioning them on them being liable for my safety? I don't mind if you blame me, but making false statements against my family, especially my parents, is wrong. "they had a brain and a sense of responsibility"..what's that suppose to mean? You're accusing my parents even though you don't know them. My parents have full trust on me, why? Because I've earned it. I've seen many fools at my school driving fast just for one reason - showing off. I'm not like that at all. I've been brought up in a wealthy family and my parents have let me choose any of those cars, because they know I'm very responsible, and I am. I'm looking for a 4-door car, because it's more practical. That's why I wanted to go for the Acura TSX or TL, which seem pretty decent, or the G35x sedan. Are there any known problems for those vehicles? The 350Z is not at all practical once I think about it, and so are the Porsches. I'm sure I can handle them well, but it isn't roomy enough to drive around my family and I want a car that can protect me and my occupants if any danger occurs. So you saying my parents are highly questionable is wrong...I guess I was just raised in a different enivornment.

Yes, I'm saying and I'm standing by it. Any parent that would spend that much money on a first car, a fast car for their child is irresponsible. All safety aside, wouldn't it feel good to earn it yourself. Probably not something you concern yourself with, you'll come back with I get good grades so I earned it.

Yes, I'm saying and I'm standing by it. Any parent that would spend that much money on a first car, a fast car for their child is irresponsible. All safety aside, wouldn't it feel good to earn it yourself. Probably not something you concern yourself with, you'll come back with I get good grades so I earned it.

What is your problem? Seriously? What, am I suppose to be mad that I was one of the fortunate ones and grew up in a wealthy family? Excuse me pal, but you really need to grow up. All cars are basically classified as "fast cars" - it all depends on the driver and how responsible he/she is. A person can have a busted Cavalier and can be going 100 in a 50 zone. It all depends on the driver. And I do get good grades and I work at my gas station as often as I can. I probably can afford this car, but I'm saving up all my money for the future and I always spend it on buying gifts for my family. Just because my parents are allowing me to buy a "fast car", doesn't mean they're irresponsible, because once again it all depends on the driver and I've proven myself to be very responsible and trustworthy, which I am. The driver is the main ideal behind this whole senario. Nothing ever seems to click in your brain, so I guess that explains why you just rag on me.

To each their own. If Hullio is lucky enough to get a nice car, than so be it.
He seems to be a good kid and I don't see his parents being all that bad.
I started with a 1968 VW bug for $250. I got hit by a freakin VW Rabbit and totally out my bug. Imagine in today's world if I got nailed by an Armada or Suburban.

Well said andy, hullio is a good kid, and I thank his parents for that, what if they are rich, that does not mean that they are crewed up, my hat goes down to them. but it is unfortunate how we judge the book by its cover.

Hey hullio, if you can afford a ferrari or a lamobourgini ( I hope I spelled it right ) get it, you desreve it and more, post some pictures, you got my blessing ;)

) Hey Hullio, I don't know you as a person, but from the posts I read you seem like a mature, responsible and level headed young man. If I had to chose I would say
1. BMW 3 Series, if you can swing it get the 330i
2. G35
and lastly Audi A4, stricktly because of the all whell drive, since you are living in the Great White North.
Good luck and let us know what you decided on, and many pics, please.:)
Cheers.

You know that you can get the previous gen M5 for a little bit less than the 911. about 20k USD, so its either that or a brand new civic or corolla. I mean thats a fully loaded m5 with xenon and nav.

Just my 2 cents... my kids are never going to get a nice sports car for a first car... I earned my car the hard way, so will they...

You come from a wealthy family, enjoy your fortune... and I hope you do fine with the sensible car you choose...

as I asked earlier, when a souped up ride revs his engine at you, what do you do? Easier to ignore them when you're in a TL than behind a 911...

I sold my 350z for my MADA for the same reasons as the other guy...

Being you're from Canada, don't get a RWD as a first car... I'd say get the TL with the bluetooth and all... then when you're making your own money buy yourself a porche or ferrari...

Rich kids in expensive cars aren't as impressive as rich adults in expensive cars they own free and clear...

On another note, when an immature 16 y.o driver crashes their sportscar and hits the minivan with the mom and 3 kids and they all die... I hope the next of kin sues the hell out of the parents for putting their kid behind the wrong vehicle...

To end my last post on this topic... I actually don't like how you flaunt your money openly in this forum... it may not have been your plan, but it rubs some people the wrong way...

BTW this is an ARMADA forum not a civic or sentra forum... most owners here are mature responsible owners who aren't necessarily poor and flaunting wealth is just not welcome around people who do have wealth but dont' want to flaunt it...

So let's leave Hullio to decide his car and get back to trucking....

Just my 2 cents... my kids are never going to get a nice sports car for a first car... I earned my car the hard way, so will they...

You come from a wealthy family, enjoy your fortune... and I hope you do fine with the sensible car you choose...

as I asked earlier, when a souped up ride revs his engine at you, what do you do? Easier to ignore them when you're in a TL than behind a 911...

I sold my 350z for my MADA for the same reasons as the other guy...

Being you're from Canada, don't get a RWD as a first car... I'd say get the TL with the bluetooth and all... then when you're making your own money buy yourself a porche or ferrari...

Rich kids in expensive cars aren't as impressive as rich adults in expensive cars they own free and clear...

On another note, when an immature 16 y.o driver crashes their sportscar and hits the minivan with the mom and 3 kids and they all die... I hope the next of kin sues the hell out of the parents for putting their kid behind the wrong vehicle...

To end my last post on this topic... I actually don't like how you flaunt your money openly in this forum... it may not have been your plan, but it rubs some people the wrong way...

BTW this is an ARMADA forum not a civic or sentra forum... most owners here are mature responsible owners who aren't necessarily poor and flaunting wealth is just not welcome around people who do have wealth but dont' want to flaunt it...

So let's leave Hullio to decide his car and get back to trucking....
Thank god, i was begining to feel like i was taking crazy pills. Nice to see at least one rational person on here.

First of all, I never intended to "flaunt" my money. People were amazed because some cars were pricey. I just wanted to make clear that the budget was a little big. Plus, I don't really see how I was even "flauting"? I was just simply stating that i'm well-off. Sorry if anyone took it the wrong way. People like my parents too came up on harsh grounds and just because they did doesn't mean they have to treat their kids the same. I've proven my self to my friends and family that I am what I am - responsible and trustworthy. If I do get a sports car - so what? I know my limits. If someone rev's at me I wouldn't mind, maybe just pass a smile. I'm the type of person who thinks ahead of the game, such as what the consequences will be if I were to do something before I did it. I've seen many accidents and the aftermath of crashes and frankly I don't know what goes though people's mind when they're racing. Some people get more intimidating than others - I don't. It's just like peer pressure. Some of my friends were peer pressured into smoking and drinking, but mainly smoking because everyone seems to be have drinking since the age of 13 here. But not me. I don't smoke or drink and don't plan on it ever. People who get peer pressured think that one smoke won't hurt them, but it does. People have tried to peer pressure me, but I'm confident in my speech and mind and just say no. To you this may not seem like much, but believe me, I've seen people just give up because they aren't strong enough and or want to be cool and hang in that type of crowd which define themselves as cool. Just the other day, there was a party in my area and I was invited, but I didn't go cause my friends weren't and I knew what will happen there. There was obviously going to be drinks everywhere and smoking, so there was no need for me to surround myself in that type of environment. Back to the party, one of my classmates (who is also well-off) had to get his stomach pumped because of eccessive alcohol. See what I mean? It all depends on the person and how they were raised.

"Rich kids in expensive cars aren't as impressive as rich adults in expensive cars they own free and clear..." doesn't make sense to me. It depends on the person and their whole ego. I've earned my status by working and studying hard. My parents brought me very well and I thank them a lot for that. While growing up, I also developed very good street smarts.

I use this forum as a source of advice, so do many other people. This is the "Off Topic" section and I often use this section to see what other people's thoughts are on a certain idea or plan. I also post other types of information, such as new cars, just to share with people. There's nothing wrong with me asking for my first car, and I just wanted people opinion's on the cars and if they had any experience with them..good, bad, any known problems, etc. But then people like ftnssn come along and try to "smart-talk" me and disrupt everything. But then again, they're people like ggeorgie and T.B. who I extremely appreciate for all their thoughts and feelings towards my subjects. I'm a down-to-earth type of guy and can seperate a good person from a bad one just like that. Once again I thank people like ggeogie and T.B. and I hope you the best of the best for you and your whole family :).

First of all, I never intended to "flaunt" my money. ~~~~~~~~~.
Don't let it get to you kid!
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2710&d=1154978496
If your parents can afford what they want and think you deserve it no one else matters!
You do your thing.

Some of you here just can't seem to go by the rules of this forum.
THERE ARE TO BE NO PERSONEL ATTACTS.
This includes members and others in their family.
Hullio has proven himself to be more mature than some of the other posters here. He has never started a personel attact on anyone. His knowledge of vehicles is apparent. In my opinion he has never "flaunted" his family's wealth.
If you don't want your 16 year old to have an expensive car that is your choice. But it is not your place to judge others when you don't know anything about them.

The pervasive attitude of this website saddens me. Obviously most of you disagree with me and thats your right.

My first car was an 84 Honda prelude. I drove it from 56K to 250K. It definitely served its purpose and now peacefully rest in that scrapyard in the sky!

Haha thanks Spyda. Thank you scr38.

ftnssn, every one's entitled to their own point/opinion, but the way you present your arguments/rebuttals throws off people, that's all.

The pervasive attitude of this website saddens me. Obviously most of you disagree with me and thats your right.
One of the major merits of the "attitude" of this site is that we don't make personal attacks. Everyone has the right to his or her opinion, and is free to state it here. What you are not free to do is make personal attacks on other members. Everyone must abide by the rules of this site if you wish to be a member.
If you need to review the rules of CA go to:
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3994
Read Rule 5 carefully.

I wouldn't say I was flaming him or belittling him. I called into question the judgement of his parents for giving a child, no matter how mature he seems he is still a child, a fast car. I wish him the best of luck and I know he'll love whatever he gets but the odds aren't in his favor and that is just fact. There's a reason why states(you live in Canada, I know) are considering raising the driving age to 18. Be safe Hullio, it'll be hard but not impossible.