Any problem if i cut my stock spring 1/2 - 1 coil? all around??? what do you guys think?

Behave too.....I know some here don't like Lowered SUV's, but I do....just asking an opinion for a functionallity point of view. I have always lowered my cars, so I feel like this one is no different.

Thanks in advance for your help / comments on this matter.

I did this a long time ago to an old Mercury Capri that I used to own (only the front, the rear was leaf spring), and didn't have any problems. Took a while to cut, though, at least with a hand saw.

I have done that in the past too. My concern are the 2 airbags in the rear. Not sure how cutting the springs would impact them. I just need to get rid of a little wheel gap, specially with low profile rims. I am not drastic when it comes to lowering. just like a little to feel a little more firm footed i guess.

If you are on 24's already, remove the spring isolators from all four corners. There was a member here that did it, and it was just enough to tighten the gap.

cutting springs is generally a poor choice for two main reasons. Spring rate is changed, and is weaker. Also lowering by cutting can cause catastrophic shock or other suspension failure due to the now too long shock height when fully compressed, not yielding when spring is fully compressed. If you like the lowered look, do it properly and safely.

Take a look at this.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=560348

I would love to lower my armada a couple inches all around but to do it right is big $$$$$.

There isn't a lowering kit yet that does it properly. I don't like lowered regardless but the only lowering kit out doesn't allow for proper adjustment of the tires for proper wear. It is missing camber or some other adjustment making it basically useless. Spring cutting is not and never was a proper way to lower any vehicle. It ruins the ride and performance to the point of being unsafe for looks only. A proper lowering kit will keep the suspension safe and make it actually handle better not worse. Course this costs money.

As a general car enthusiast, I admire anything that has been modified. I'm all for it as long as it is not left stock, that is unless it is a Ferrari =P. But to get to the point and to reiterate what the other members have said, cutting springs is never a good idea. In technical terms, cutting a spring shortens the distance that the shocks/struts will be allowed to travel when compressing. In turn, cutting the spring WILL change you spring rate, which translates to the springs inability to absorb the impact from hitting bumps or road obstactles. If you took a stock spring and a lowering spring for the same car, you'll notice that the lowering spring is shorter (ofcourse) but thicker. The thickness of the coil makes up for the lost spring height/length to maintain or increase the spring rate. As the others have said, if you are going to lower your Armada, spend the money and do it right. DO NOT TAKE ANY SHORT CUTS! ;)

cutting springs is generally a poor choice for two main reasons. Spring rate is changed, and is weaker. Also lowering by cutting can cause catastrophic shock or other suspension failure due to the now too long shock height when fully compressed, not yielding when spring is fully compressed. If you like the lowered look, do it properly and safely.
Totally. Imagine unwinding your spring so it was straight, like a torsion bar, then cutting it. You lose spring material. You want a spring designed to be shorter. It is wound with tigher coils and engineered to work at the shorter length.

yeah i heard it all......no springs to lower the armada....this suxs. I hate that wheel gap.....just plain FUGLY IMO.

Someone here mentioned something about "Sping Isolators" what is this??? ANyone knows? I searched the threads for it, but no luck...

If you are on 24's already, remove the spring isolators from all four corners. There was a member here that did it, and it was just enough to tighten the gap.
Sounds like something the spring sits on. Never heard of this before. As for 24s, this doesn't make any difference. The rim size has no bearing on the outer size of the tire, which is what you are concerned about. You could put my rims/tires on. I'm planning on raising mine as I lost too much gap and want the travel space so I can clear small puddles, curbs, etc. And taller looks meaner. ;)

That is funny....haha, here i am trying to lower because of the huge gap, and you are raising to increase it. Maybe we should just change springs TB ;)

I wonder if adjusting the rear airbag sensor will make a difference. I will try and lower it 3/4 in. Just like SCR38 mentioned. The rear is higher then front.

A spring isolator is the "donut" looking round rubber circle that goes between the upper spring pocket, and top of spring.

A member here that did it, showed it took the truck down just a bit more, to rid some of the tire gap.

when you guys remove those isolators does it make any noise?

I wonder if adjusting the rear airbag sensor will make a difference. I will try and lower it 3/4 in. Just like SCR38 mentioned. The rear is higher then front.
That will work.

Keep in mind you are dealing with IRS and altering the ride height WILL result in a change of wheel camber and tire wear, this is not the same as lowering a straight-solid rear axle. My Armada was set slightly too low from the factory and it completely ATE the inside half of the tread of both the rear tires in 9k miles! Nissan reset the height and installed a pair of tires under warranty.

when you guys remove those isolators does it make any noise?

watup brotha!!!! is ur mada lower??? please share wat u have done... i am dying to lower my mada...

You telling me bro I've been waiting for intrax for over a year, I couldn't wait any more the wheel gaps looks ugly so I just finally did it myself, if you really want to get it done take it to a custom shop that are good at cutting and welding if not make a trip to texas and i'll take care of you bro.

is the intrax kit not out yet? i thought i found one a while ago. no matter how you lower, getting an alignment done immediatly is important. our vehciles come with a bit of negative camber in the rear already, lowering would only increase this. luckily nissan designed in plenty of adjustment for camber and toe in the rear, and camber/caster in the front. make sure to get the alignment done righ away if you lower.

and as a side note to anyone with either different tires, or a tire and wheel package, you want to have your toe set slightly more positive when you run a larger tire, or more offset. so if you bought wheels and tires, and didnt get an alignment, i would recommend it.

when you guys remove those isolators does it make any noise?

Done it on other trucks with no issues. You can call you energy suspension, and get their low profile replacement poly isolators. They are just thick enough to put a little material between the spring itself and the spring perch.. so there is no "metal to metal" contact.

all right guyz, i called intrax yesterday. the lady wasn't too happy to be giving out information to a non-dealer customer, but she said the springs are actually done with testing and are made and being produced. they will be available by the end of july. i have been searching and searching and no other company makes lowering kits for us. there was one company called doescht-tech. they specialize in shocks but also make lowering/lifting kits. they had two different lowering kits, 0/1.5 drop, and 1.5/3 drop tht came with shorter rear shocks. they discontinued those kits. i know this because i got excited when i saw this and called and emailed. they got back to me in email stating they discontinued it and when i called they said the same thing.


i know 92triple black is a very knowledgeable comrad to have on the forums but he stated there was a kit out with bad camber problems. if he is stating the problems in reference to the doescht-tech kits, then maybe he is right. but other than that, what he says is untrue. there are NO kits out yet. hey 92TB, what kit are you talking about? please let us know, because i would like to know who makes that. thanks. BTW 92TB please don't take this in the wrong way.

and now for the suspension drop. if you lower the mada 1" - 2" then you really don't need new shocks. you should and probably recommend getting shorter shocks. but i you keep the stock shocks, you could just cut the rubber/foam bumstops on the shock body a little to add some extra travle. i'm not to sure about the 04-05 models, but the 06-07 models have the newer camber bolts for greater adjustments. i like lifted trucks, but lowering the mada is cheaperand it makes getting in and out of the mada easier. also i could fit in these damn parking garages.

well, i hope this post goes on because maybe someone will step up and make us some springs. LOL

right on guys, thanks

its sept.. Where are the kits???

its sept.. Where are the kits???
i thought you bought your kit already????