: Please help with info !!!
ArmadaLA 05-12-2007, 05:31 PM I was interested in a dual exhaust for my 07 Armada SE, so i began talking to a few people and trying to find info on my own, and they keep mentioning headers and intakes. I have no knowledge of car engines, so if anyone has a few minutes to try and explain what these are and what they do, i would be extremely thankful. When you do explain it, pretend like your speaking to a 4th grader whose learning this for the first time.
Also one last thing, i have been trying to do my own reserach on this forum, and i just want to be sure about something. I really like the dual exhaust look that come out the sides, and not straight back like the Borla, so my question is where can i buy this and does it have to be a custom job, or is it an easy install like the Borla?
Thanks a bunch in advance!
Hopefully this will help a little..... Check out the Borla & Gibson under the "Performance" section:
http://www.burtmanindustries.com/list.php?maker=&mycat=&from=0&t_step=70
This thread should come in pretty helpful as well:
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7073
92TripleBlack 05-14-2007, 12:21 AM Car drivetrains are just big air pumps. The more air you gan get in and out of them, the more power you make. Intakes are the tubes going from the filter to your motor. Headers are the tubes going from the motor to the exaust pipes. These are often choke points for air flow and freeing them up allows freer air flow and therefore you make more power. Same with exhaust. You will only make as much power as your weakest choke point, which is why they work best when combined. Dual exhaust is often cited as a sign of power because you can move more air through two pipes than through one of the same size. That siad, the single exhausts we have are just as free flowing as the dual, so it is purely cosmetic for our vehicles vs. other aftermarket exhausts. Also, the side flows are nice as you don't stink up the rear when you open the hatch or are hooking up a trailer, etc. Hope this helps. ;)
ArmadaLA 05-14-2007, 01:41 AM 92TripleBlack, man thanks a bunch for that info, helped alot. So basically the only way we can get more power in our Madas are with an intake and headers, since our exhaust are just as free flowing as a dual, right?
92TripleBlack 05-14-2007, 02:04 AM 92TripleBlack, man thanks a bunch for that info, helped alot. So basically the only way we can get more power in our Madas are with an intake and headers, since our exhaust are just as free flowing as a dual, right?
Stock exhaust is a single. Aftermarket exhausts are freer flowing than stock. You can go with a larger diameter single aftermarket or dual aftermarket. Either will realize a simialr performace increase over stock but you need to change intake to maximize the effect. The headers also help, but stock are pretty good and you won't notice much difference. Worst bang for the buck of the 3 on our vehicles. The best combo so far is volant intake, Gibson single exhaust, a throttle body spacer, and reprograming from Uprev.scr 38 has improved has his quarter with this combo at 14.48, which is about a second faster than most stock armadas, which is also faster than any full size 2008 pickup or SUV except for the Dodge pickup with the viper motor. ;)
ArmadaLA 05-14-2007, 03:02 AM Gotcha, and once again thanks for the extremely helpful info. I think im gonna go with what you said and get an intake, and then check and see if Gibson makes a dual side sweep exhaust for now(I just like the look better). Maybe the throttle body spacer will be purchased later down the road.
Jason B 05-15-2007, 10:14 PM I sell just about every exhaust made, but a dual that goes "out the side", I haven't seen yet. If you go custom, of course you can get that done.
If you find a company making it out the side, let me know and I can get it for ya. To see the other options, look on the site here:
www.burtmanindustries.com - then click "search by Vehicle"
07ArmadaLE Driver 05-16-2007, 09:23 PM My 07 has dual inlet with single outlet stock muffler, luckily my installer had a y-pipe to work with. Is this new for 07 since I ordered a magnaflow exhaust for the armada?
zfactor 05-16-2007, 10:31 PM thoughts on the jba system compared to the gibson??
Kailo 05-17-2007, 01:37 AM Car drivetrains are just big air pumps. The more air you gan get in and out of them, the more power you make. Intakes are the tubes going from the filter to your motor. Headers are the tubes going from the motor to the exaust pipes. These are often choke points for air flow and freeing them up allows freer air flow and therefore you make more power. Same with exhaust. You will only make as much power as your weakest choke point, which is why they work best when combined. Dual exhaust is often cited as a sign of power because you can move more air through two pipes than through one of the same size. That siad, the single exhausts we have are just as free flowing as the dual, so it is purely cosmetic for our vehicles vs. other aftermarket exhausts. Also, the side flows are nice as you don't stink up the rear when you open the hatch or are hooking up a trailer, etc. Hope this helps. ;)
Hey TB, Thanks for this explanation and thanks for todays CLASS...you broke it down...Well explained...
zfactor 05-17-2007, 01:52 AM ^^^ that is a very good basic description but please be aware there are many many other factors at play as well.. there is also a thing as to much air and not enough fuel to keep up with it.. not saying in any way you are at all wrong just want to make the other poster know its not just about the air involved... but that is prob the most important factor other than fuel delivery
Gallagher999 05-17-2007, 03:57 AM here is what I found as far as pics of an after market exhaust for an Armada. NOTE: you get to keep the spare tire!!!!
zfactor 05-17-2007, 05:08 AM borla is awesome if you want to spend 800+ on just the exhaust
galaktified 05-17-2007, 02:13 PM Car drivetrains are just big air pumps. The more air you gan get in and out of them, the more power you make. Intakes are the tubes going from the filter to your motor. Headers are the tubes going from the motor to the exaust pipes. These are often choke points for air flow and freeing them up allows freer air flow and therefore you make more power. Same with exhaust. You will only make as much power as your weakest choke point, which is why they work best when combined. Dual exhaust is often cited as a sign of power because you can move more air through two pipes than through one of the same size. That siad, the single exhausts we have are just as free flowing as the dual, so it is purely cosmetic for our vehicles vs. other aftermarket exhausts. Also, the side flows are nice as you don't stink up the rear when you open the hatch or are hooking up a trailer, etc. Hope this helps. ;)
Another quality post Mr. 4000! Thanks.
Jason B 07-10-2007, 02:14 PM here is what I found as far as pics of an after market exhaust for an Armada. NOTE: you get to keep the spare tire!!!!
I do have this IN STOCK now.
http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoomprod.php?id=arm_borla_exhaust
Jus-10 07-17-2007, 10:25 PM Dual Exhaust out the sides! I like the look...hehe...but I had to get mine custom done here.
crazyb02 07-18-2007, 01:57 AM You learn something new everyday. Thanks guys.
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