Anybody wieght their stock tire and wheel combo?? I did yesterday and was not impressed. 74.3 pounds per wheel and tire.:crikey: Man the ladies are gonna have to show some skin when they get flats lol.

Its a joke. I understand there is this this thing called triple A...

...... Man the ladies are gonna have to show some skin when they get flats lol.
Hey, good idea..... Picking up a box of nails today for the morning drive-in. :D -J/K

Anybody wieght their stock tire and wheel combo?? I did yesterday and was not impressed. 74.3 pounds per wheel and tire.:crikey: Man the ladies are gonna have to show some skin when they get flats lol.

Imagine how much the 22's and bigger must weigh.......

If you ask me. If you can find a wheel and tire combo under 50 pounds that can stand our chasis weight that means more power, less strain on suspension, BRAKES, motor, transmission...save some gas too. My queston is if you have too light of a wheel, fishtale problems on the freeway and streets? Peeling out at every stop sign no matter how slow you go??

Seriously doubt it because you still have the weight of the vehicle pressing on those tires.

Seriously doubt it because you still have the weight of the vehicle pressing on those tires. wow, comming from you im shocked. I had stock rims on a MR2 once. 35 pound wheel and tire combo. Found something 5 pounds per wheel lighter. No placebo effect har. Doods on dynos swap out lighter rims and tires for the drive line side to get that extra hp and torque out. Ill keep you informed of the wheel and tire combo i get and it will definatly not be the bling. Will let you know how much I get up on them SLT's...

Sorry, I guess I didn't finish the answer out.

I meant to say that I don't think that you have to worry about fish tailing and slippage from using a lighter tire/wheel combo because you'd still have the weight of the vehicle pressing on those tires.

I definitly think it's easier on the drivetrain and performance, and also maybe better gas mileage as long as they can support the vehicle weight. I used to go as light as possible on my brother's tuners because spinning less weight made a huge difference as long as we could keep the traction and traction loss was due more to the tread width and pattern than tire/wheel weight.

Wheel weight = unsprung weight, the worst kind you can have. Will definitely harm performance. Just ask a Mazda Miata owner, Mazda spent a bunch of time coming up with the lightest wheel / tire combo possible for the Miata, and putting on aftermarket wheels, even the same size, noticeably slows it down. My neighbor changed wheels on his Sequoia for 22's that weigh a ton, and he told me he noticed a difference. But, the look was worth it to him.

Fight the rollover, damn where stuck with the wheels if you want saftey.

Wheel weight = unsprung weight, the worst kind you can have. Will definitely harm performance. Just ask a Mazda Miata owner, Mazda spent a bunch of time coming up with the lightest wheel / tire combo possible for the Miata, and putting on aftermarket wheels, even the same size, noticeably slows it down. My neighbor changed wheels on his Sequoia for 22's that weigh a ton, and he told me he noticed a difference. But, the look was worth it to him.
That's what I'm thinking. The particular car I have in mind was an RX7 that we got down to running 0-70 in about 2.5 seconds after changing the wheels out for lighter ones.

That's what I'm thinking. The particular car I have in mind was an RX7 that we got down to running 0-70 in about 2.5 seconds after changing the wheels out for lighter ones.

0-70 in 2.5 seconds????:confused: That's faster than any supercar out there, and most, if not all race cars. Are you sure you have your numbers right?

It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure. I could get it launched faster than he could so he'd use the stopwatch while I yelled "tag" when we reached 60 but 60 always came too fast so I'd yell it right after my shift into second gear at 65mph and it was always 70 before I heard the click stopping the stopwatch. It took aLOT to convince me he was doing it right because I couldn't believe the 2.5 either so we tried several different stopwatches. If I wasn't careful, I'd lose the rear end fishtailing from laying rubber while shifting into second at 60-65mph. The power was too much for the main seal so he blew the main seal on the Rotary Engine right before I read an article about the Pros being limited to what the strongest aftermarket Engine Seal could handle and the best seal was still only good for a few months of racing. It's a very light car that we were cranking around 500hp out of it while toasting Lambos, Ferraris, 911 turbos and anything else non-funnycar. We had the low-end torque down great but were slacking on the High-end so the 1/4 mile times were still in the high 9's.

We fixed up a Supra after blowing the RX7 motor and the Supra was cranking 560hp running 0-60 in about 3.5 seconds that could run close to 8 sec 1/4 miles but we had to feather the pedal to keep her close to 10's due to not having a roll-cage so we never pushed her as hard as we could've. The Supra was the fastest non-caged street-legal car here in the Southwest. A buddy of his has the Supra in Missouri now. Everyone here and in our surrounding states knew "Steve's Supra".

I think I might still have some pics of the Supra at home if you'd like me to post them.

It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure. That's how he blew the main seal on the Rotary Engine. It's a very light car that we were cranking around 500hp out of toasting Lambos, Ferraris, 911 turbos and anything else non-funnycar. We had the low-end torque down great but were slacking on the High-end so the 1/4 mile times were still in the high 9's.

We fixed up a Supra after blowing the RX7 motor and the Supra was cranking 560hp running 0-60 in about 3.5 seconds that could run close to 8 sec 1/4 miles but we had to feather the pedal to keep her close to 10's due to not having a roll-cage so we never pushed her as hard as we could've. The Supra was the fastest non-caged street-legal car here in the Southwest. A buddy of his has the Supra in Missouri now. Everyone here and in our surrounding states knew "Steve's Supra".

I think I might still have some pics of the Supra at home if you'd like me to post them.
This was the 61 series supra where talking right?? Not no JZA80. Or MA71 Right?? You would need a gank more power to get a Supra to hit 8s in those cars, like around 13 to 1400 hps. The fastest mk4 is around a high 6. It has close to 1800 hps. Maybe street legal in your state, but definatly not the fastest Supra in the southwest with or without cages.

This was the 61 series supra where talking right?? Not no JZA80. Or MA71 Right?? You would need a gank more power to get a Supra to hit 8s in those cars, like around 13 to 1400 hps. The fastest mk4 is around a high 6. It has close to 1800 hps. Maybe street legal in your state, but definatly not the fastest Supra in the southwest with or without cages.

I was hoping you'd reply to this. :D It was a '95 Supra that we were running in 1998-2001. Maybe I am off on those numbers and I don't want to be dishing out BS so I'll give him a call to make sure I'm remembering this right. I'll also see what I can dig up for engine pics.

Just got off the phone with my bro and got my numbers corrected, sorry for my bad memory.

The Supra dyno'd 870hp and was running the 1/4 mile in the 9's. It could have ran faster if traction was not an issue, he did have quite a bit of slipping with slicks also. You're right definitely was not the fastest Supra in the Southwest but was one of the best for the people he was running against.

The RX7 was running the 1/4 in the 12's.

Both 0-60 times were 3 to 3.5 secs, I guess I imagined the 2.5 (sorry).

Here's a few under hood pics of the Supra.

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4489&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4490&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4491&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4492&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4493&stc=1&d=1180048725

That's still sick (0-60 in 3.5). I had a 94 RX-7 before my kids and the rim tire combo was incredibly light. Even the carpet they used was somewhat thin to save on weight. My father in law has a sick 993 turbo. Honestly, I liked the RX-7 better. The 993 clutch scares the crap out of me.

It will be at least 5 years before I get another toy like the RX-7, so I will live with the Armada mods for now.

I kind of like the KMC Rockstars in 20". Wheelfire.com has them for $1000 for the set. I'm not a big fan of 22s, but to each their own.

Here is the link to the Rockstars...

http://www.wheelfire.com/scontent/WheelBrands.cfm?Brand=87

Anybody wieght their stock tire and wheel combo?? I did yesterday and was not impressed. 74.3 pounds per wheel and tire.:crikey: Man the ladies are gonna have to show some skin when they get flats lol.
You should try lifting one of my tires some time. ;)

Just got off the phone with my bro and got my numbers corrected, sorry for my bad memory.

The Supra dyno'd 870hp and was running the 1/4 mile in the 9's. It could have ran faster if traction was not an issue, he did have quite a bit of slipping with slicks also. You're right definitely was not the fastest Supra in the Southwest but was one of the best for the people he was running against.

The RX7 was running the 1/4 in the 12's.

Both 0-60 times were 3 to 3.5 secs, I guess I imagined the 2.5 (sorry).

Here's a few under hood pics of the Supra.

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4489&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4490&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4491&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4492&stc=1&d=1180048725
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4493&stc=1&d=1180048725

I just creamed my pants. That's a nice ride. :D

You can cut 6-7# off each corner by switching to the Michelin CrossTerrains. Not the tire I plan to go with, but definately lighter than stock.

I just creamed my pants. That's a nice ride. :D
Haha!! Over $56k in mods, it was a blast to drive.

Sorry to jack the thread, back to topic, the wheel and tire weights made a big difference on these cars, I'd imagine they would on the Armada too. My question is how light are the lightest rims that can handle the weight of these beasts??

Haha!! Over $56k in mods, it was a blast to drive.

Sorry to jack the thread, back to topic, the wheel and tire weights made a big difference on these cars, I'd imagine they would on the Armada too. My question is how light are the lightest rims that can handle the weight of these beasts??
Nice ride, but for $56k in mods, it sure better do more than 9s. :eek:

It breaks my heart that Toyota stopped making this car before I could afford it. As a teen, I lusted after the Supra. Now they have a fast Camry :(

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4492&stc=1&d=1180048725

Nice ride, but for $56k in mods, it sure better do more than 9s. :eek:
That's what I'm saying, I'm fairly positive that it could but we had close to the widest tires we could fit into the rear fender wells and still had a hard time keeping traction. I really thought he had a couple runs in the 8's but he said he was pushing hard to keep from slipping for the 9's.

Now they have a fast Camry :(

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4492&stc=1&d=1180048725
Who has a fast Camry?
Powertrains and Performance
Standard on all trim levels is a 2.4-liter inline four (158 horsepower and 161 pound-feet of torque) paired to either a five-speed manual or five-speed automatic transmission. A potent 3.5-liter V6 (268 hp and 248 lb-ft) mated to a new six-speed automatic gearbox (that offers manual-shift capability) is available on the LE, SE and XLE trims. With the V6, the Camry can reach 60 mph in just 6.5 seconds.
That's not much faster than scr38's Armada. Heck, a '96 Grand Cherokee was faster than that. THE last car that Toyota made that was fast was the Supra and they haven't made anything but reliable grocery getters since.

Who has a fast Camry?
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Embarassed to admit it, but I had one of the V6's toast me off the line on the way to the train station. In all fairness my engine was not warmed up so I was not giving it WOT.

The V6 camery is quick compared to my 5000lbs. truck.

Fast grocery getters! Reminds me of putting twin merc V8's on a pontoon boat.

Had the 1988 supra. It was nice except for the head gasket, struts, rain leaks, among other things.

Ksholder is right about the michelin cross terrains - way light tire at 38 lbs tire only. Or you can go with the BFG AT KO at 60 lbs!

Or if you have $56k, get a fast bike and buy a nice car too.

I was hoping you'd reply to this. :D It was a '95 Supra that we were running in 1998-2001. Maybe I am off on those numbers and I don't want to be dishing out BS so I'll give him a call to make sure I'm remembering this right. I'll also see what I can dig up for engine pics.
Bro, you need to call your brother up again. I attend the SILV every year. 1150 Hp Supras gutted out can barely kiss 9s. I dont see much under the hood other than cam sprockets and a turbo. Whats he got/did have in that 2jzgte??

Anyways check out my pics on myspace... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=176853583

Embarassed to admit it, but I had one of the V6's toast me off the line on the way to the train station. In all fairness my engine was not warmed up so I was not giving it WOT.

The V6 camery is quick compared to my 5000lbs. truck.
Yeah, but that's comparing a sedan to an SUV. Compared to other sedans, it is more like a Ford SUV. Slow as mud, like all Toyotas since Supra. Toyota hasn't built performance vehicles in years. They are just thinking about it with the new V8 Lexus IS coming soon. Honda hasn't made one since the NSX was cancelled. At least Nissan has a 350Z, which though slow vs. "fast" stock vehicles, it is acceptable. The new Skyline should fill the gap. Mitsubishi and Subaru are making fast cars in the WRX and EVO, but that's about it from Japan for years, really since the Supra.

Bro, you need to call your brother up again. I attend the SILV every year. 1150 Hp Supras gutted out can barely kiss 9s. I dont see much under the hood other than cam sprockets and a turbo. Whats he got/did have in that 2jzgte??

If you say so, that's why I'm asking. Honestly, you know way more about these cars more than I do. That's the only Supra I ever worked on and I just did the basic add-on stuff. He had a guy here who had a local reputation for rebuilding these Supras do most of the work. I know that it doesn't show but the engine, tranny and rear-end were completely gutted and rebuilt a few times.

I just have a hard time believing that it's that difficult for those cars to reach the 9's but there is no doubt that you know what you're talking about, that was obvious from day 1. Nice profile and for what it's worth, your integrity was never in question here and I've been a little too eager to run this past you to hear what you'd have to say ever since you joined.

i jumping in this a little late but is weight a reason they used 17inch wheels on the SE OFFRoad?? and i know us that have 18inch stock can get 17's which also gives us more tire options.

i jumping in this a little late but is weight a reason they used 17inch wheels on the SE OFFRoad?? and i know us that have 18inch stock can get 17's which also gives us more tire options.

My guess would be more sidewall for more extreme offroading.

Anyways check out my pics on myspace... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=176853583
Nice pics man!
I just creamed my pants. That's a nice ride. :D
Hahahahahahaha

i jumping in this a little late but is weight a reason they used 17inch wheels on the SE OFFRoad?? and i know us that have 18inch stock can get 17's which also gives us more tire options.
No. Smaller wheel diameters make for larger sidewalls, which in turn are better for off roading. You don't want really anything bigger than 17" for true off roading. 16" are probably ideal and 18" passable. My 20" aren't very good at it but can do in a pinch. Larger than that is asking for dents, scuffs, etc. ;)

No. Smaller wheel diameters make for larger sidewalls, which in turn are better for off roading. You don't want really anything bigger than 17" for true off roading. 16" are probably ideal and 18" passable. My 20" aren't very good at it but can do in a pinch. Larger than that is asking for dents, scuffs, etc. ;)

i know i already got scrapes and dents on my stock 18" wheels but they work untill i get a more serious set up.

If you say so, that's why I'm asking. Honestly, you know way more about these cars more than I do. That's the only Supra I ever worked on and I just did the basic add-on stuff. He had a guy here who had a local reputation for rebuilding these Supras do most of the work. I know that it doesn't show but the engine, tranny and rear-end were completely gutted and rebuilt a few times.

I just have a hard time believing that it's that difficult for those cars to reach the 9's but there is no doubt that you know what you're talking about, that was obvious from day 1. Nice profile and for what it's worth, your integrity was never in question here and I've been a little too eager to run this past you to hear what you'd have to say ever since you joined.
Bro, I do know what Im talking about. I want to know whats in your "Bros' car. For All I know, that could be some old autotrader pic. I feel like posting picutres of your bros car on supraforums and find out whats in it and who it belongs to. Theres only so many of these turbo supras left in the world. Shouldnt be hard to find out on the biggest forum dedicated to supras. Well, heres a pic of my "Bros" ride. Fastest supra in SAN DIEGO. I guess that means its in the southwest. It only has about 400 hps more than your bros car, and well, you can tell whats in it. Yeah, it does a high 8. If you say your bros car does 9s with 900 hps then I guess so. It doesent take much to soup up a jza80, for 5 k you can get it over 650 hps, but its not gonna break into 10s. Theres no traction in the 3 and 4 gens, these car's bread and butter is after the 60 mph race or rolling starts for the average Turbo. http://youtube.com/watch?v=rlZZR9bPmJ4

Bro, I do know what Im talking about. I want to know whats in your "Bros' car. For All I know, that could be some autotrader pic lol.
Haha!! Those are actually scanned old photos. He sold it a few years ago to a buddy in Missouri after the engine and tranny got stolen from a shop that was working on it. I'll get with him to see what he has left as far as time slips and parts lists. That was his baby pride and joy before his first daughter was born so I'm pretty sure he has all that stashed in a dusty box somewhere. I'll also have him remind me of his buddy's name that bought it because I'm pretty sure he is on SupraForums as well.

As a matter of fact, after watching that awesome vid, I'm going to show him this thread, that's awesome!!

You can cut 6-7# off each corner by switching to the Michelin CrossTerrains. Not the tire I plan to go with, but definately lighter than stock.
How much does the stock 18 inch tire weight??

How much does the stock 18 inch tire weight??
The tire is 42 lbs. ;)