Finished installing the PRG yesterday and it turned out quite different than I had expected.

I started on the Rear right after rotating the tires on the wifey's Murano (Big Mistake). I've had the jack placement memorized for months but after working on her car, I working without thinking and set the jack stands near the Body Edge (like on the Murano) instead of under the frame. Needless to say, there was a Crunch and I now have two new indentions on the underbody. They're not noticeable from the side or above unless you're looking for them but I'm going to have a dentless guy pull them out anyway.

When I started on the Front, the Sway Bar was impossible to break loose so I took it to a shop where they used some "Break Away" spray and a ratchet to break everything loose for me. Made it a breeze when I got home. When reassembling, they say to use a Torque wrench on some of the bolts but I only have hand wrenches and socket wrenches so I used some Permatex Thread Locker and left them a hair on the loose side.

When I got finished, the rear was an entire inch lower than the front. The front has 6-1/2 inches between the tire and fender edge. Unless I'm pulling a skier on a lake, I don't like riding that way so I took the Ride Height Sensor on the rear and rotated it Counter-Clockwise until it was upside-down enough to put the screws back in. The rear height kept climbing until it reached 9 inches between the Tire and Fender edge. I'm not terribly happy with it either but I'm curious if it'll stay there. In the meantime, I'll be looking for another set of 2" spacers for the rear to put on top of the springs but I really don't feel like forking out another $150 right now so I"m going to see if this will work until then.


This is before the PRG:

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5028&stc=1&d=1188149841


This is right after the PRG and before adjusting the Rear Height Sensor:

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5029&stc=1&d=1188149882


<Edit:> The following pics were added after adjusting the Rear Height Sensor to where I want it and drilling the Lower Spring Arms to accomodate Proper Alignment:

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5290&stc=1&d=1192659940
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5276&stc=1&d=1192319362

Aren't you going to have uneven tire wear in the rear tires? Because of the angle of the tire inward? I dunno thats what i Thought by seeing the pictures but I am probably wrong.

It's not that bad but there's a slight chance that it might and that's one reason why I'm still toying with it to try to get it back down 2" lower.

so you didnt get the front and rear prg kit?? the rear spacers are cheap i think, then you wouldnt have to screw with the air ride. that said i dont think it looks half bad with the prg on the front and stock rear!! goodjob pops! dont forget to get the thing aligned, the fronts a little out of whack now.

Of course I got both. Almost $300.00 :D They are installed on the Rear and Front and I know for a fact that I ordered the 2" not 2.5" front spacer but either way it shouldn't be more than a 1/2-in off. That's what bothers me is that the Rear still looks stock even though it isn't. I sent an e-mail to Greg so I'll see what he has to say. I already adjusted the Tow in the alignment so it should be good too.

How's the ride quality? Does the SUV lean more during turns?

Nice job though!!

How's the ride quality? Does the SUV lean more during turns?
Ride quality is still good. It does roll a little more while turning do to the higher center of gravity but it's nothing that a Stillen Stabilizer Bar couldn't fix but I'd rather keep the current articulation and it's really not that much different. Messing with the Height Sensor was a bad idea so I changed it back to stock. It went too high and I'm going to have to test it again just to make sure I didn't blow a fuse or burn out the compressor.

Congrats on the lift and getting it done.

Maybe the rear would look better if you could adjust the rear sensor to somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd picture?

Suprised that there is a 1/2" difference. That is b.s. if you ask me.

I work with large structural steel building frames and the "target" minimum tolerace is 1/16".

Maybe the rear would look better if you could adjust the rear sensor to somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd picture?

Suprised that there is a 1/2" difference. That is b.s. if you ask me.

I'm still toying with the Sensor but I'm going to have to make sure I didn't blow something first from when I had it all the way up. FYI: 9" between the fender and Stock Tire is as high as she gets. :D

<edit:> I just got off the phone with Greg. He's going to machine a second set of spacers for the rear at a reduced price. :thumbup:

POPS you were able to install the lift kit yourself without any special tools? How long did it take?

I just used a floor jack, a jackstand, straight wrenches, and socket wrenches.

I did the Rear Tuesday evening and it took me about 1-hour per side.

The Front was a LOT more work. I learned the hard way that the bolts need to be Centered in the Holes when attaching to the Struts. Once I had the bolts broke loose for me, it took me about 2-hours on the first side for the learning curve and about 1-hour on the second side.

It was almost 100 degrees with high humidity and I usually try to work a little slow taking extra precautions not to make mistakes since I don't do this often.

If you're thinking about doing this, you might want to wait until I get the other pieces installed that Greg is making. He said that I should get them next week and I should be able to install them one evening and get some pics posted. I'm hoping that it's gonna be nice and will add a little more overall height than our existing options while still clearing for most parking garages.

Thanks for the info POPS!

No Problem!!!! I'm counting down the days to receive the parts that Greg is making. If all goes well, I'll have a total of 2.5" added to the front and 3.5" added to the rear. :D

I load up with heavy yard stuff often (900lbs of dirt this last Sunday) so I'm wanting the extra inch in the rear to compensate for losing the Load Leveling Support at that height.

POPS, any updates? I think I am going to call Greg and place my order, did you do anything with the struts or shocks? I need to talk with Greg and get his opinion.

POPS, any updates? I think I am going to call Greg and place my order, did you do anything with the struts or shocks? I need to talk with Greg and get his opinion.
It'sjust a matter of adding the spacers in. I found the my rear springs are different than most and had to add double spacers on the rear to get the results that others get from single spacers. My Rear Camber is off where my tires will wear faster on the outside edge so I'm looking for Cam Bolts to add in to readjust it. All in all, the PRG is staying on regardless because I still like it better than stock.

The 2 tricks to the front are 1) very important to have the bolts centered as close to perfect as possible in the holes when you attach the spacer to the strut, and 2) rotate the strut 180 degrees when putting it back into place.

POPS, any updates? I think I am going to call Greg and place my order, did you do anything with the struts or shocks? I need to talk with Greg and get his opinion.
Just for an update, I pulled the extra 2nd set of rear spacers out because I couldn't get the camber lined out. I'm leaving the single set in for now and Slamdxterra is looking into helping me get the little boost that I'm looking for.

pops, you need to call rancho and get their rear spacers man. the part # is 70076. if you cant find a vendor let me know, i'll check the retail price on em.

If you install the PRG lift on an Armada with the rear ride leveler, you have to adjust the rear ride-height sensor. PRG Greg says you don't have to do this, but that just does not make sense. Think about how the system works.

The rear ride height is controlled by what appears to be a potentiometer connected to the rear lower A-arm on the drivers side. When you drive, the sensor sends a signal to the computer telling the computer what the value is. This value changes as you bounce over the road, but for a specific period of time, there will be an average value. There is an "ideal" average value set in the computer. If you are not at this value, the computer adjusts the rear height accordingly.

When you install the spacers in the rear you are increasing the distance between the A-arm and the frame. The sensor picks this up and the computer adjusts accordingly. Thus, you add the spacer, and the computer compensates by lowering the rear. The net result is that you are disappointed with your rear spacers.

Luckily the piece that connects the sensor to the A-arm is adjustable. You need to make this piece longer to compensate for the additional height in the suspension.

(If you have rotated your sensor, rotate it back to the original position.)

The piece you are looking for is a stud with two nuts on it, and with plastic ends that each have a ball socket on them:

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5170&d=1190611833

On the end of each plastic ball socket is a plastic clip that holds it shut and around the ball connector. (This adjustable arm is most easily accessed from the rear of the vehicle.)


Use a small screwdriver to unclip the bottom clip.
Then insert the screwdriver in the vertical slot to spread the ball socket open enough to unhook it from the A-arm.
Now loosen the nuts and then turn the plastic end pieces to make the piece longer. The ideal length for me was to make the stud about 3/4 inch long.
Put the ball socket back on the lower A-arm connector and gently tighten the nuts.
Now go for a drive. A couple of miles should be enough. This gives the computer an opportunity to adjust the rear ride height.
Now measure again.
Repeat adjusting and driving until you get the rear where you want it.


When I started, I had a 6 5/8 inch fender space in the front, and 5 3/8 fender space in the rear. With this adjustment, I got the rear fender space to 7 inches. Now it does not look like it is sagging in the back. It looks good! I will try to post some pics of the finished result.

I hope this helps and solves the problem for everyone.

Sarge, I believe that I owe you a beer. After looking at your diagram, it dawned on me that I had my Sensor Arm rotated the wrong way and that was why the compressor wasn't working. I've been toying with it and this is a MUCH better way for fine tuning the height.

I am anxious to see what Slamdxterra has in mind because I could still use something that doesn't affect the Camber.

FYI, for those that still need to haul open trailers or pull a car trailer like myself, the PRG lift with the rear sensor adjusted as well, still has enough room to level out my load, and pull just as smooth as it did without the trailer. :)

Sarge, I believe that I owe you a beer. After looking at your diagram, it dawned on me that I had my Sensor Arm rotated the wrong way and that was why the compressor wasn't working. I've been toying with it and this is a MUCH better way for fine tuning the height.

I am anxious to see what Slamdxterra has in mind because I could still use something that doesn't affect the Camber.

Pops, just remember the delay built in, before the compressor kicks on. I't not instant after sensor adjustments. :)

Pops, just remember the delay built in, before the compressor kicks on. I't not instant after sensor adjustments. :)
Yea, I've made it a rule for myself to drive for at least 2 miles before changing again. Fortunately for me, it's 1-mile to the neighborhood entrance. Thanks!!!

I finally got my Rear Alignment completely fixed!!! I found an awesome Tech at another dealership who enjoys working on things like this and he enlongated the outside holes on the lower spring arms about 1/8"-1/4". This allowed the Toe to be adjusted enough to match the Camber. So now, I'm sitting with 38" high fender wells all the way around with PERFECT alignment. The best part is, I still have more room to raise it taller if I want and can still get the alignment perfect. I'll try to put together a little how-to this week adding this to information that others have provided on here to make it easier from here on.

http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1240
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5276&stc=1&d=1192319362

Now you need some bigger fatter tires... and a roll down ladder. :thumbup: :D

Now you need some bigger fatter tires... and a roll down ladder. :thumbup: :D
Hahaha!!! These crappy Contis have been rolling through dirt fine for now. I already have my next tires picked out for when these are ready to dump. I need to get some better performers on Wifey's Murano before I think about getting mine. I already have a few High Perf tires in mind for her in the Nitto and Dunlop lineups. ;)

Yeah, if Mommas not happy, nobody is happy!:rolleyes:

Much better POPS.