There has been much discussion here about the "new" brakes on our Armadas. There also seems to be a lot of confusion about what the new brake fix consists of. I hope this post will help members to understand what the fix is.

1. The new rotors are for the front only. They are not larger in diameter and they are not thicker. They have been redesigned to stop the warping. Look at the attached links for the pictures (from Greg at MossyPerformance). These pictures will explain the differences.
2. Calipers are not being replaced. New pads are installed with the new rotors, as well as some new caliper mounting hardware.
3. Some dealers are turning the rear rotors and installing new rear pads when they install the new front rotors. I don't know if they inspect the rear brakes and make the decision to turn the rotors at that time or if some are just automatically doing the rears.
4. The dealer will turn the rotors up to three times (as long as they meet minimum thickness) and install new pads before the new rotors are installed.
5. As far as I know, at this time there is no recall for the brakes planned. The dealers won't repair the brakes until the customer has a complaint.

Here are the links to the pictures:

http://www.mossyperformance.com/rotor1.jpg
http://www.mossyperformance.com/rotor2.jpg

Thanks for the sticky! Great idea...

2004 OFF ROAD, built September '03
I just turned 20k miles, and I've had the brakes worked 4 times; new pads twice, and new rotors once. Between that, each set of rotors was cut once, and some new hardware put on the front calipers.
The shudder is back in all of it's glory. They just got the "new" parts for a fix, and I get to take it in again.
The front end feels like it is tearing itself apart under ALL braking right now.
Likes:
The high speed stability is great, and the towing capability is great. Interior room is better than a new Expedition; Ford really messed that up for 2005. I had a '97 and '99 Expedition, and the best thing about them was the 2nd seat leg room.

ONE WEEK LATER........

NEWS: I got the FIX, and in 1000 miles, ther have been no problems, and the brake dust problem is really minimized to the point of non-existent. We'll have to wait & see......


Three weeks later.......
2000 miles on the new rotors, pads, etc., and no problems. Even towed 8000lb boat in the heat. No brake dust to speak of, either.
Maybe they have it this time?

Three months now on new brakes; very little dust, good stopping, no shudder. Looks good....

Have 30k miles, and no problems with the brakes. I would say "they got it"

Have 40k on it (14k on new rotors/pads) everything is still working properly; stops are short & quiet, no judder.

I spoke to Nissan Consumer Affairs... (Number is in your manual). There is no recall at this time. They will however register the issue when an owner calls with documented VIN number. I suggest people start contacting Nissan with regards to the Brake issue. All dealers are aware of it, but seems Nissan is not acknowledging it. My dealer said essentially the problem is the brakes are too small for the vehicle.

Please call so we can get the recall!

I had the new "heat-treated" rotors installed on the front axle today (7K miles). Also new pads, etc. My rear pads were replaced...original rotors were smooth. These brakes feel great. Nissan was billed $714.21 parts and labor. Wow!

Also had service performed...oil change, etc. The tech removed the metal baffle/cover to get at the filter and neglected to reinstall it. Be sure to check that your baffle is reinstalled at each service...cuts down on road noise and provides some protection. The techs don't like to "bother" with it so tend to throw them in the dumpster.

Does any one have the part numbers for the brake updates? It would be nice to be that prepared. Starting to get the judder, started around 2300 miles and getting worse.
I would really like to try and work this so that I get the current 'permanent' fix. Sounds like it is working. Any advice on how to get that done on the first trip? I am contemplating try to raise a ruckus with Nissan first, and see if that work, so that my dealer merely has to confirm they should do it on the first shot. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Good luck... I took my '05 Armada in for the brake judder fix and got it back yesterday. Purchased less than 2 months ago with 2300 mi on it. In the end, all I got was resurfaced rotors and a big headache :(

I did complain to Nissan USA before I went in. I also met with the service manager when I dropped off the car. And I met with the new sales director too just to vent... Again, it didn't get me the fix the first time around but I did learn a few things...

1. Nissan USA supposively sent a communication to all the service managers saying that the permanent fix kits would be available in volume by the end of June (from the service mgr)
2. Nissan USA is instructing dealers that all Armadas must be resurfaced at least once before they are elegible for the permanent fix
3. Backlog lists are getting short... I went to a major Armada dealer in Houston and there were only 26 people on the list
4. My dealer did comp me a renter while my car was in the shop for the TSB fix. They said all Armadas getting the brake judder work done get free loaners.

I would definitely recommend you contact Nissan USA, open a file and get your VIN on record with this problem. Mention the state Attorney General's office, the Better Business Bureau and the state Lemon Laws. But in my case... it still didn't get me far...

Thanks logdog, I've noticed a few getting the fix on the first go around. I think it may depend on the dealer....

Going on 5000 miles strong with the latest brake fix. Definitely less brake dust. Not a hint of brake judder. I plan on being very picky before my 3 years/unlimited miles runs out on this repair.

Hello, all, I am a new member. I bought my Armada on Labor day last year from Pinnacle Nissan. My brakes have all the problems I have seen in the forum. Has anyone else dealt with Pinnacle. If so, what happened? I am taking the bad boy in tuesday to get the second go around on the brake "fix", so they tell me anyway. Please let me know if anyone else in AZ deals with Pinnacle, or any other local dealer and what I can do.

Hello, all, I am a new member. I bought my Armada on Labor day last year from Pinnacle Nissan. My brakes have all the problems I have seen in the forum. Has anyone else dealt with Pinnacle. If so, what happened? I am taking the bad boy in tuesday to get the second go around on the brake "fix", so they tell me anyway. Please let me know if anyone else in AZ deals with Pinnacle, or any other local dealer and what I can do.

We bought our 2004 Armada from ABC Nissan. I was not too packed off with that dealer, so I started going to Midway Nissan for service. They knew all about the brake problem and installed the counter measure on my third visit. I encounted the window rattle and went there with the TSB and they ordered the parts fixed it without a problem. They seem to react quickly when you have the TSB. I have also had oil changes and a rear diff oil change done there without problems.

Ken

Well, well, well...just when I thought I was the only one...My '04 developed the same shutter/rotor prob. at about 35K mi. New front rotors and pads solved the prob. I spoke to a person who works at the plant this past weekend and according to him, they are well aware of the prob. and are--as the rumors suggest--redesigning the front brakes. As you might have guessed, it's a rotor/truck weight thing. ....Now, if I could only fix all the cabin rattles....

My dealer has replaced all the rotors 3 times now. I haven't contacted Nissan yet, but I will after reading this thread. I am also going to contact National Highway Transportation Safety Board - that's how my husband approached a problem w/ his vehicle and within 8 weeks there was a recall.

I talked to Nissan Consumer Affairs yesterday and the lady I spoke with said that there is a new fix that was released w/in the last 2 weeks. The fix? Larger rotors - she also said they have extended the warranty on the brakes for one additional year & unlimited mileage.

Going on 5000 miles strong with the latest brake fix. Definitely less brake dust. Not a hint of brake judder. I plan on being very picky before my 3 years/unlimited miles runs out on this repair.
I have had the final and best fix (so I hear from my service manager). This happened about 4000 miles ago - the last 2400 miles were towing and LOTS of stop and go, traffic, hills, etc. Brake dust is minimal, no thought of juddering (and I had it BAD before), and the brake performance on the whole trip was great. Trailer has hydraulic ("surge") brakes, too. I am currently positive about the outcome of brake fixes, at least from my perspective. :amazing:

This is good news to hear. I hope the rest of you with brake issues get them fixed asap and I avoid the brake problems.

Had my first visit 2 weeks ago and they pretty much did what everyone had mentioned, resurface rotors and installed new pads. I'm calling them again next week to see if I can get that permanent fix :( (crosses fingers)

As I was putting my car in the shop for the brake issue there were about 3 other individuals in there for the same thing. This is outrageous. I think there is a safety concern here. I dont know about any of you but this issue is causing my steering wheel/column to tremble as I am driving. It sounds very scary as if my left front tire is about to come off. I kidd you not, one day it was so bad that as soon as I got to my drive way I got out the car and checked the left side front tire bolts to be sure that everything was tightened. It seems to happen to me when I step down on the brake and get to mid-level then the steering wheel begins to tremble. It also acts weird when I turn right.

Although they are fixing it, there is no telling the causes and affects this may have on other areas with the Armada (alignment, wear and tear on the tires etc). For something so minor to cause your steering column to tremble like that makes you wonder what else can go wrong. This just should not happen to a brand new vehicle.

Will give you an update after I get a few miles on them!! On a side note they gave me a Maxima as a loaner...I almost didn't give it back!! All I can say is 265 horses... 3000 pound car....oh my!! Can u imagine the 350z, of course some of you don't have to dream.

We have had the rotors replaced at 4000, 9000 and now 13500 miles. It is just ridiculous. The only response I get when I complain is " it's not that big a deal, the vehicle will stop". Contacted dealer and corporate last week, so far no response from either. Next step is initiating lemon law complaint....it is sometimes allowed in California after 3 unsucessful attempts if it is a safety issue; otherwise it is 4 attempts.

We have had the rotors replaced at 4000, 9000 and now 13500 miles. It is just ridiculous. The only response I get when I complain is " it's not that big a deal, the vehicle will stop". Contacted dealer and corporate last week, so far no response from either. Next step is initiating lemon law complaint....it is sometimes allowed in California after 3 unsucessful attempts if it is a safety issue; otherwise it is 4 attempts.
Read about the brakes.
Nissan initially had poorly designed brake rotors and pads. They found this out well into the 2004 production run when they started coming back. Since then, they developed new rotors, tested, them, and put them into production. Production started hitting the assembly line last May. The line ate up most of the redesigned parts as you can only make them so fast and spares have been slow to make it to the dealers. Dealers have been instructed to turn the rotors 3 times before replacing with the new parts to give them time to get enough produced to catch up with demand.

1. Your dealer should have told you
2. New different parts are available.
3. This post discusses the success of said parts
4. Go to the dealer and get them for free. Warranty was extended on brakes to 3 years unlimited miles to cover problem. ;)
5. Don't lemon, nothing better out there and this can be repaired. Other vehicles have problems with no forseable fix, such as the blowing head gaskets on Tahoes.
6. You aren't alone.

Read about the brakes.
Dealers have been instructed to turn the rotors 3 times before replacing with the new parts to give them time to get enough produced to catch up with demand.


3Black, I posted on the Meeting Thread but this is a more appropriate place. I took my Armada in to Reed Nissan yesterday. When I dropped it off, the service manager said there were 6 Armadas in front of me waiting for the "fix" and that I would get rotors turned. When they called in the afternoon, they told me that they had put the permanent fix on since they had one in stock. New front rotors/pads and rear pads. This was first time in (4200 miles). No more brake worries. Now if I can get rid of my occassional moonroof rattle that they can "Never Duplicate" at the shop I'd be golden.

I think I remember llajumpvid having some moonroof noises that he fixed...you might email him.

I just hit 5k miles on my Armada LE when I started to notice that it was making that brake judder that everyone talks about. I took it in to the Santa Maria Nissan with the TSB, and they didnt even look at it. They told me that they would just put new rotor in the front and turn the rear ones. I also had new brakes installed on all 4 wheels. Their service was Awsome! The only thing that I still have is the window rattle. What nissan just did was lub the seals on the window, but it still makes that rattle when the window is partially rolled down.

i realllllly need new rotors...b4 the brake juddering was driving me crazyy the whole 'Mada shook like hell...now for some reason it has stopped a little BUT now the rotors/brakes are making A LOT of noise! Even when you're just driving they make a little screeching sound...and when you stop, Every1 from a mile away can hear the screeching sound...it's crazyy my brakes are grinding it's so badddd..AHHHHH :machinegu well i guess it's back to the dealer time :mad:

Hello, all, I am a new member. I bought my Armada on Labor day last year from Pinnacle Nissan. My brakes have all the problems I have seen in the forum. Has anyone else dealt with Pinnacle. If so, what happened? I am taking the bad boy in tuesday to get the second go around on the brake "fix", so they tell me anyway. Please let me know if anyone else in AZ deals with Pinnacle, or any other local dealer and what I can do.

I used to deal with Pinnacle until one of there detailers backed my Maxima into a wall....and they didn't say anything. Luckily my girlfriend saw it before we left! I have been going to Brown and Brown for a couple of years now. They have been great. Talk to Dustin.

the Tucson dealers are replacing the brakes with the new fix here. There are tow Nissan dealers here, Jim Click and Thoroughbred and they are both doing a pretty good job with the brake and rattle issues.

I bought a 2004 LE in May from a private party and have been taking it into Click for service and I have to say they have been great so far. I didn't even ask for the brake fix and I got it!! I had it in for new tires (gave me a smoken deal) and I asked them to check the normal brake sqweel when stopping and they just gave me the new fix - its also true - hardly any dust anymore!

My brother bought an 04 TitanLE from the other dealer and his service advisor has started telling him that he needs to complain about the brakes each time he comes in so he can get the fix and he doesn't even have issues yet @ ~ 11K miles.

So, I would keep working with your dealer and if they aren't willing to work with you, change to another one up there. You have many more in Phoenix to choose from. I had a sales guy at Pinnacle lie to me and that did it for me so I didn't go back when I was looking to buy.

good luck

The mechanics I talk too say that Nissans new design will only lengthen the time it takes for the brake rotors to warp. This size rotor in combination w/ it's inability to transfer heat away from the surface is the problem. Making it thicker did not solve the problem, it will just postpone the warping marginally. It was cheaper than making a 13+ inch rotor to stop the truck. Our rotors are about 12.6inches I think. We basically have rotors for a large sedan on a 5700+ Lb. truck.


I'm no gearhead, but it seems to make sense to me.

L8tr

belch

My Armada goes in tomorrow for the new rotors. I only had the judder issue once in 14K miles. If the new rotors warp in a couple years, I'll just get a big brake kit. But, maybe they'll make the Armada better? and I'll just get a newer one. For now, I am liking my 04 LE alot.

No probs yet and a large reduction on the amount of brake dust.

keeping my fingers crossed.

The mechanics I talk too say that Nissans new design will only lengthen the time it takes for the brake rotors to warp. This size rotor in combination w/ it's inability to transfer heat away from the surface is the problem. Making it thicker did not solve the problem, it will just postpone the warping marginally. It was cheaper than making a 13+ inch rotor to stop the truck. Our rotors are about 12.6inches I think. We basically have rotors for a large sedan on a 5700+ Lb. truck.


I'm no gearhead, but it seems to make sense to me.

L8tr

belch
They didn't just make it thicker, they changed the cooling ducts, etc. also. This makes a huge difference. I have Z06 brakes on my C4 vette. Same diameter as the C4 brakes, but totally different heat sinking and dispursement abilities.

Brakes do 2 things: Soak up heat, and disperse heat. The amount of material in a rotor dictates the amount of heat it can disperse. The new rotors weigh 2 lbs more than the old ones. This dictates how much stopping power it can have and heat it can absorb before warping and it is a substantial increase. The vents on the edge of the rotor disperse heat, which in turn decreases brake fade. The pads also have a lot to do with it.
When its all said and done, these look like they should be fine. ;)
http://www.mossyperformance.com/rotor1.jpg
http://www.mossyperformance.com/rotor2.jpg

My service guy gave me the spill about the brakes and when I picked my 05 Mada up they had replaced the front Rotors and pads and resurfaced the rear rotors and replaced the pads in the rear. No problems yet and a very big difference in stopping. :)

This should not be a problem anymore since Nissan sent out a letter to all '04 and '05 Armada owner's, extending our Warranties for "brake judder" to 3 years/unlimited mileage. That pretty well should cover any future issues with them. Let me know if you guys didn't get the letter with the neat little sticker in the corner you are supposed to stick on the front of your Nissan Warranty book.

I am experiencing warping with my brake pads and need to know if I can just buy some drilled rotors and replace the pads or do I have to buy a whole new set up for bigger tires like 22" rims and tires?

Why not let the dealer install the new rotors and pads? The new brakes work well, and you are covered under the warranty. I don't know why you want to spend a lot of money for aftermarket rotors and pads (which will void your warranty on the braking system) when you can get the updated brakes for free.

I am experiencing warping with my brake pads and need to know if I can just buy some drilled rotors and replace the pads or do I have to buy a whole new set up for bigger tires like 22" rims and tires?

Hello,
Don't make the jump to upgraded brakes like drilled and slotted unless you going to be racing that brick. Just get the brake fix nissan has as its a major improvement. I had mine replaced last month and I'm so much happier now. The new brakes stop it on a nickel (not a dime, too heavy for that) and I have absolutly no brake judder now. It even feels a little better on rough roads now probably do to some of the other associated hardware they replaced. Get the brake fix and see if your happy with that before you spend the big money. Just some friendly advice... :hi: :moon:

I am glad to see that I am not the only one having problems. I have been all over net last few days, problem is massive. We should sue the sobs and force them to recall the problem. I have been banging heads with service manager, he says I ride the brakes too hard?? I am on third set, no one mentioned upgrade to me.

Good luck... I took my '05 Armada in for the brake judder fix and got it back yesterday. Purchased less than 2 months ago with 2300 mi on it. In the end, all I got was resurfaced rotors and a big headache :(

I did complain to Nissan USA before I went in. I also met with the service manager when I dropped off the car. And I met with the new sales director too just to vent... Again, it didn't get me the fix the first time around but I did learn a few things...

1. Nissan USA supposively sent a communication to all the service managers saying that the permanent fix kits would be available in volume by the end of June (from the service mgr)
2. Nissan USA is instructing dealers that all Armadas must be resurfaced at least once before they are elegible for the permanent fix
3. Backlog lists are getting short... I went to a major Armada dealer in Houston and there were only 26 people on the list
4. My dealer did comp me a renter while my car was in the shop for the TSB fix. They said all Armadas getting the brake judder work done get free loaners.

I would definitely recommend you contact Nissan USA, open a file and get your VIN on record with this problem. Mention the state Attorney General's office, the Better Business Bureau and the state Lemon Laws. But in my case... it still didn't get me far...

Brakes - what an issue!! I bought my Armada January of 2004. I had it three weeks when I was driving home from work and when I pushed the brake to stop at the red light, the brake pedal went all the way to the floor and the car kept going! Luckily there was no one in the turning lane next to me and I jumped over there and pushed on the emergency brake which slowed me to a stop, with heart racing! Nissan sent a flatbed tow truck to my house and took the Armada back to the dealership. Two days later they called me and said they fixed the problem. I picked it up and it drove fine - for a week. I was backing out of the garage and when I pushed on the brake pedal, it fell all the way to floor and we rolled across the front lawn together. Again, Nissan sent a flatbed to the house and this time my husband went to the dealership behind it. I don't know what he said but the dealership was contacted by Nissan who told them NOT to touch the vehicle. They sent a Nissan representative from somewhere up North, I don't remember where and two Nissan technicians from California all came to Sutherlin Nissan in Atlanta where my Armada was. They removed the entire brake assembly, hoses and whatever else that goes with it and took it all back to California. They had my vehicle for 3 weeks and gave me a stupid rental car of some sort. When I got it back, the brakes were fixed, it was washed, polished and they even gave me a Gift Certificate for dinner for two! The only thing they told me was that there was "debris" in the master cylinder. I believe they were worried there was about to be a major recall; when I got my Armada, I never even saw another one on the road or anywhere else for months. So it was fairly new. Wow - but it isn't over yet. Since that brake job, I have had it back in the dealership 7 times in 2 years for rotors and pads. They told me, hey, at least I would have new brakes for free for the life of the car. I told them if you think I am going to bring this car in every 3 months for the rest of it's life, you are sadly mistaken!! The last time they fixed it, they changed it out with the new brakes and I haven't had any more problems with the brakes, not even the black, yucky brake dust!! Yippee! (They didn't know it, but I wouldn't have given them back my Mada even if they offered to exchange it for another one. I love mine, brakes or no brakes! :)

I have a 04 mada with 27k on it. Just got it used will they still warrenty the brakes on it. How can i find out the service history on this truck to see if they have been fixed yet.

I have a 04 mada with 27k on it. Just got it used will they still warrenty the brakes on it. How can i find out the service history on this truck to see if they have been fixed yet.
You can see if you have the new style rotors by looking at the attached pictures in the first post in this thread. The new rotors have a narrower cooling slot and the two sides are equal thickness.

I have a great dealer, did the "fix"" once at 20kms (12kmiles), just turned 40k and never another shudder, and the back were checked last week and they are OEM and 30% worn. Either I got a very rare 04LE, or the fix really works!

This should not be a problem anymore since Nissan sent out a letter to all '04 and '05 Armada owner's, extending our Warranties for "brake judder" to 3 years/unlimited mileage. That pretty well should cover any future issues with them. Let me know if you guys didn't get the letter with the neat little sticker in the corner you are supposed to stick on the front of your Nissan Warranty book.
I don't believe I ever received this letter. Do you know the approximate time it went out, or do you have a copy? My '05 has 29K miles and the shudder is just starting now. I'd like to have some ammunition when I go into the dealer. Thanks!

I don't believe I ever received this letter. Do you know the approximate time it went out, or do you have a copy? My '05 has 29K miles and the shudder is just starting now. I'd like to have some ammunition when I go into the dealer. Thanks!
I haven't seen the letter, but I think this TSB applies to your vehicle.
http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership/Bulletins/Nissan/2004/NTB04-066.htm

Hmmm, I highly doubt I got the letter as well. I bought my Aramda January 2nd of 2004. I lived at that time in Madison Wisconsin. Moved back home to PA in August of 2005. Taking it today to the goodyear shop to get it inspected and they said I will need new brakes and rotors all the way around but will pass inspection. Now on the way over, backing out of my garage, I had exactly 79,999 on it. As the manager told me, I again for the 2nd year in a row do not have to pay for the emissions because I have not driven over 5,000 miles on it in 1 calendar year. So for almost the 2 years I have been home I have not put 9K on it, due to my new job I have a company car and I am letting my armada catch up with time as it has a pile of miles on it. Now while I was living in Madison, they did try and fix the brakes, but that was just before I moved back. I wonder if I qualify for the TSB?
if not, any recommendations for new brakes and what they would run?? you can always PM me if need be.
Thanks,
Steve

New here, first time import truck owner after 5 or so GM's and now I'm wondering if I went in the wrong direction?
Purchased this vehicle, an 08 LE w/ tow package because I also own a race car and maybe once a month I must tow it inside an enclosed trailer with a total weight of approximatly 7000 pounds with dual axle brakes which will operate once I install the controller this week, with a 9100 pound tow capacity the only thing I thought I would worry about was maybe a lack of power pulling hills. I take it on a test ride (no trailer attached) on a 1000 mile trip and am very displeased with just about every aspect of the brakes, the stopping power....it seems to want to glide rather than dig in, the pedal doesn't feel solid unless I give it a pump first, and pedal pulsation is absolutely unreal, it'll rattle your teeth out laying into them from about 75 mph, so scary that it wouldn't stop in time that I had it out of the lane and onto the shoulder twice just to make sure and I'm not a tailgater by any means, I am so used to leaving room ahead because of trailer towing that sometimes I over-do it, these were normal traffic slow-downs from the posted speed limits.
Please tell me it's a problem with mine only, I love the vehicle for it's ride and options but I think brakes take a priority over them. I'm calling the dealer this morning (it's 2 weeks old) and the last thing I want is them is machining material from the rotors to true them as every .010 removed decreases stopping ability by about 3 to 5 percent due to additional heat (I owned an auto repair shop for 20 years). I have a 1000 mile round trip coming up in two weeks using the trailer and I'm really leary at this point!
Any dealer techs out there that has seen this problem? Thanks

Welcome to the Club Ronnie!!!

It's definitely an isolated problem. My brakes are awesome, better than on the Suburbans I've driven. I haven't heard of any Brake problems on an '08 yet but you definitely need to get those looked at because you're describing the exact issue that the "Brake Fix" fixed on mine.

FWIW, the Armada is a Domestic Truck, not an Import. They are designed and made right here in the USA with American parts. It's more American than most of the "Domestic" brands and easier to work on than a new GMC.

I have an 06 and have had no problems with stopping. I have had my brakes done twice and I only have about 60,500 on it right now. I have had no problem braking from speeds as high as 85 MPH. I am sure you are aware of the ABS on the vehicle. I have only had one incident where I was a little too close when stopping, but between the ABS and the VDC the vehicle stopped quite fine. I did pull some seat cloth out of my crack, but the vehicle did what it was designed to do.

If you are not feeling safe though, you should have the dealer check it out.

...oh yeah, Welcome to CA RonnieC!

Thanks for the kind welcomes.

Took it in today and all 4 rotors were out of round, really makes you wonder how when it only had 158 miles on it when I picked it up and I remember looking at the rotors to see how big they were and they weren't rusted at all. I panic-stopped it on the way over there on a back road and it stopped in 135 feet from 60 mph, I'll wait til after I seat the brakes back in to see how many feet it takes this time but all the pulsing is gone and I have peace of mind.

Thanks for the replys, I did want to hear that no one else had similer problems.

Thanks for the kind welcomes.

Took it in today and all 4 rotors were out of round, really makes you wonder how when it only had 158 miles on it when I picked it up and I remember looking at the rotors to see how big they were and they weren't rusted at all. I panic-stopped it on the way over there on a back road and it stopped in 135 feet from 60 mph, I'll wait til after I seat the brakes back in to see how many feet it takes this time but all the pulsing is gone and I have peace of mind.

Thanks for the replys, I did want to hear that no one else had similer problems.
Your 08 rotors are bigger than the early rotors. The TSB and problems discussed in this thread don't apply to your Armada.
I have not heard of anyone else with 07s and 08s having the problems you are having, so I would say that yours is an isolated case.

........I take it on a test ride (no trailer attached) on a 1000 mile trip and am very displeased with just about every aspect of the brakes, the stopping power....it seems to want to glide rather than dig in, the pedal doesn't feel solid unless I give it a pump first, and pedal pulsation is absolutely unreal,

I've recently started to have the same issues with my 07....well I say recently, my wife will tell you its been like that even before her accident. In fact I almost hit another person the other day while driving it (~60mph w ~100ft spread between me and them) because the brakes would not dig, I had to pump them twice to get it to stop. (Funny, I had always blamed my wife for her accident, but now I am not so sure. In fact after my incident, she said to me "that’s what it did to me when I wrecked")....If that is really the case, I wish she had said something then, that way the brakes could have been investigated as a possible cause to the accident.

Does anyone have the pictures of the recalled rotors? The links don't seem to work.

Oh, and does anyone know the minimum thickness for the front rotors?

Oh, and does anyone know the minimum thickness for the front rotors?
It should be stamped or cast into the rotors. It will be in mm.

The new thickness of the rotors is 26mm/1.024".
The minimum thickness is 24.5mm/.965".
Attached is a picture of the 04 and early 05 rotors compared to the replacement rotors. The original rotor is on the left.
This applies only to the 04 and early 05s. After about May of 05 the new design rotors came on the vehicles, and the brakes were redesigned on the 08s.

Thank you for the picture and info. Looks like my rotors are thick enough and they're probably the new ones since they haven't warped. But, before I place my order I'll try to get a mirror in there to check.

dan

So I'm also having a problem with my brakes. I have an 04 SE Offroad and it shudders like you wont believe. Am I correct to assume there is still no recall?

So I'm also having a problem with my brakes. I have an 04 SE Offroad and it shudders like you wont believe. Am I correct to assume there is still no recall?
Some of the 04s may have slipped through the cracks. You need to have them checked by the dealer to ensure that your vehicle has or hasn't had the brake fix.

Or do a visual and measure.
http://www.clubarmada.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6865&d=1215614879

Let me give a brief history on the Armada brakes:

The 04 and early 05 Armadas had front rotors that are 12.6" in diameter and 1.02 " thick. There were a lot of problems with the rotors warping and the pads making lots of dust.
In the spring of 05 the rotors were redesigned. The diameter and thickness stayed the same, but the structure was redesigned to help prevent warping. The pads were also changed. This change resulted in better rotor life and less dusting. The calipers, mounting brackets, etc stayed the same. All the brake parts interchange between the 04-07s.

This design stayed the same until the 08s came out. The 08s (and I think some of the later 07s) got completely new brakes. The rotors were increased to 13.8" in diameter and 1.2" thick. The calipers were changed to fit the thicker rotors and the mounting brackets were changed to fit the new rotors/calipers.

The new, larger brakes can be retrofitted to the older models. It will cost about $800.00 for all new parts. That's what I will do if I need to replace the rotors on my 04. I do have the upgraded (05) rotors from Nissan, and have no problems.

I have an '04 Armada LE 4 X 4 and the brake problem is back. The so called fix they performed in Jun 06 worked for a little while, but the judder and steering wheel shaking is back. I contacted Nissa Consumer Affairs and they want me to have the problem diagnosed. Nissan may be willing to help me out with the repairs. The vehicle is in the shop today for the diagnosis. I hope to hear back from Nissan next week sometime. We have also had the drivers side window motor go out (no parts in inventory to fix), fadeded/burt paint on roof, and seams tearing out of leather seats. We are a bit disappointed with the quality of this vehicle considering we paid a hefty price tag. Their navigation system is probably the worst nav system I have ever used. It is very non user friendly! Right now I just want Nissan to get this fix right before our safety is jepordized!

Yea, the early model OEM rotors seem to still warp, I replaced mine with R1 Concepts aftermarket that cost alot less than OEM and they've been flawless since... :D