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post #461 of 466 Old 03-03-2017, 01:05 PM
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thanks.

I did order an airbag.

I ordered a Daystar 1" spacer, as my rear sits ~1/2" lower than front. as a bounus, it came with a set of 4 bushing (1/8" shorter than the Energy Suspension bushing in Bulkhead's post), and 4 steel tubing which is 1 7/8" long, with OD of 3/4" and ID of 9/16". so I didn't have to custom make the tubing.
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post #462 of 466 Old 03-03-2017, 01:14 PM
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as for the other Bilstein shock, 33-061399, problem is compressed length is even longer than 24-187077.

33-061399 (14.37" compressed, 22.78 extended)
24-187077 (13.6" compressed, 21.6 extended)


per your (Bulkhead) post:
Rear suspension dimension between shock mounts at:
Full droop: 19.25"
Full compression (eyeballed): 13.4"

putting any amount of weight on the rear (passengers and/or towing), sagging the rear a little, will definitely put both Bilstein being too long (at compression)
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just finished the install.

this is right after install. front was raised 3/8", rear was raised 1.5" (with a Daystar 1" spacer).

now the car has a 1" rake (rear higher by 1"), before install it had a 1/2" reverse rake. hopefully car will settle after a week or two.

front install was super easy. rear shock was easy, spring spacer was a bit tricky. Googled for instruction, didn't see any good tutorial. Daystar instruction was way too complicated, involving removing rear ball joint (this was a *****), rear sway bar end link, parking brake bolt........... ended up removing just 1 bolt (control arm that holds the spring. bottom outer bolt), but to install the spacer, you have to have spring compressor (which was tricky because of space involved).

as it sits right now:
rear shock length is at 16.5"
Bilstein 24-187077 is 13.6" compressed, 21.6 extended.

according to Bulkhead's post:
Rear suspension dimension between shock mounts at:
Full droop: 19.25"
Full compression (eyeballed): 13.4"

that would mean I have ~2.75" (19.25" - 16.5")of droop and ~2.9" (16.5" - 13.6") of compression travel. does that sound right ?

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Naturally, it sounds right to me!

Did you install the airbags too?

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts about ride. Are you going to get it aligned?

08 Armada SE 4x4
Front: Bilstein 5100s Rear: 2" PRG spacers, Bilstein 24-187077, Firestone Coil-Rite Air Springs W237604150
Volant (Gen 1) CAI
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I have not installed the airbag yet. Not sure if I want to install it yet.
Rear now sits a bit high, about 1" higher (passenger side actually is 1.5" high). This is strange, as the car started with rear 1/4 to 1/2" low. I've only installed a 1" rear spring spacer. May be ride height will change after a while or after I towed or caused by the new shock (unlikely) or lower control arm bushing binding ?

Drove about 100 miles. I thought it rode great at Both low and high frequency,. I want to fix height issue, ideally I want a 1/2" rake, and 1/2" reverse rake when towing. Still figuring out how to fix that, few things I can try:

1. Remove the Daystar 1" spring spacer, but I can't understand how the car got higher after just shock install.
2. Probably already have sagging stock spring. May be try NAPA rear spring without the Daystar 1" spacer. I read it adds about 1/2".
3. Tow my 5,000LB race car trailer for couple hundred miles, may be that will help rear to stay sagged
4. Remove Daystar spacer and add airbag.

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I did the #3 - towing my 5,000LB trailer around for a while. it did settle the rear.

fender height before conversion, 37 front, 36.5 rear

fender height after conversion - Bilstein 5100 front, Billstein 24-187077 5100 rear, Daystar 1" spacer
37 front, 38 rear

when towing without weight distribution hitch (will test with weight WD hitch later)
37.25 front, 36.5 rear

this is on my 2015 SV, without self leveling.

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