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Red-Letter General GRABBERs, and Black Wheels

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Red-Letter General GRABBERs, and Black Raceline "Renegade 6" Wheels.
35X12.50R17LT
17x9 ( Zero offset )
Better pics to come later.



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Todd, that's a mean looking armada! How are you liking your lift?
 
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Looks great
Todd, that's a mean looking armada! How are you liking your lift?

Thanks for the compliments!
This was only possible because of the PRG Armada Rear Lift.
And I love it!

But here is the deal with those 17 inch wheels.
We already know that 17” will not fit 2008-and-up Titans/Armadas.
The Front disc brakes/calipers are too big.

Yes, I was only able to get 17” wheels on my 2010 Armada.
However, ONLY because they are ( at-least ) Zero Offset, and they are Aluminum.

But check this out:
The 17”, Zero-offset, STEEL Soft-8 clones from Black Rock had to be returned.
They would not even install. Seemed to be because of how the steel is folded/stamped together.
It banged against the front-face of the Front Calipers.

And more 17” problems:
Although my Aluminum 17” wheels were able to install ( because of the Zero-offset ),
The clearance was too close.
Spinning the front wheels ripped the new internal-balance-weights right off.
(the sticky tape type weights).
So, the balance technician had to start over, and re-balance the front wheels with the old-style CLIP-WEIGHTS!.

Now whenever I rotate tires, the front wheels will always require CLIP-WEIGHTS!
( at least they are on the Inside )

Look, I took a risk on the 17s.
But if I had to do it all again, I would just buy the freaking 18” wheels.
But I tried to beat the system, because I think big tires are much cheaper for 17” selections.
Go figure.
 
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Congratulations on a nice looking set up. I am digging th 17s. Ever thought of running spacers? I will some day in order to run 16x16 inch weldz/reals with 38 swampers lol. [QaUOTE=Todd;407249]Thanks for the compliments!
This was only possible because of the PRG Armada Rear Lift.
And I love it!

But here is the deal with those 17 inch wheels.
We already know that 17” will not fit 2008-and-up Titans/Armadas.
The Front disc brakes/calipers are too big.

Yes, I was only able to get 17” wheels on my 2010 Armada.
However, ONLY because they are ( at-least ) Zero Offset, and they are Aluminum.

But check this out:
The 17”, Zero-offset, STEEL Soft-8 clones from Black Rock had to be returned.
They would not even install. Seemed to be because of how the steel is folded/stamped together.
It banged against the front-face of the Front Calipers.

And more 17” problems:
Although my Aluminum 17” wheels were able to install ( because of the Zero-offset ),
The clearance was too close.
Spinning the front wheels ripped the new internal-balance-weights right off.
(the sticky tape type weights).
So, the balance technician had to start over, and re-balance the front wheels with the old-style CLIP-WEIGHTS!.

Now whenever I rotate tires, the front wheels will always require CLIP-WEIGHTS!
( at least they are on the Inside )

Look, I took a risk on the 17s.
But if I had to do it all again, I would just buy the freaking 18” wheels.
But I tried to beat the system, because I think big tires are much cheaper for 17” selections.
Go figure.[/QUOTE]
 
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Sweet looking ride you have there!
Congratulations on a nice looking set up. I am digging th 17s. Ever thought of running spacers? I will some day in order to run 16x16 inch weldz/reals with 38 swampers lol.
Thanks ya’ll!
So far the Grabbers have been excellent on street and highway, and relatively quiet.
It may be my imagination, but the ride seems smoother on these larger 35s, than my old smaller 33” Nitto Terra Grapplers.
And I loved the Nittos.

I don’t think I ever want to use wheel spacers or adapters. That’s what wheel-offset is for.
However, I may buy -6 offset wheels next time. These are zero, and only stick out about 1.25 inches or so.

And Peskadot, I can’t wait to see your rig on 38x16x16s!

Oh! one more thing.
These 35s were rubbing horribly, at the slightest right or left turn.
Basically rubbing on anything except STRAIGHT!
I spent time this weekend with my grinder hacking away a lot of solid rubber material from the front ends of the right and left running boards.
That’s right. The OEM factory running boards.
( Until I get my N-FAB N-Durasteps! )
Oh, and it’s a given that I had to remove the front mud flaps even before the cutting started.
Luckily, the book-ends on those running boards are made of heavy rubber.
So I did not have to grind away any metal.
No sparks flying, this time.
I cut about ½ inch of rubber away, and then they were hollow inside.
Fortunately, with the angle I was cutting, you really cannot see any of that at all from the side view of the Armada.
But, you can see the finished work and new clearances in these 2 pics of the right and left fronts.





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#11 ·
That's not much clearance you have there @Todd !
 
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I have adapter on mine. from what I gathered the -12 offset is what my adapter are doing to my oem wheels.
Yeah, there is not much clearance at all. In fact, it still rubs a little in certain situations. But, I will just grind it away eventually.
I love the look of that -12 offset. I thought I wanted -6 next time around. But now I am thinking -12 is just awesome.

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