Originally Posted by razzlee
1) correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the stock Armada quicker than the stock Titan? Also, I think I read one of the uprev posts that mentioned that the Armada was tuned more aggressively than the Titan, at the factory, to balance out the weight dif.
2) which two vehicles? the Titan and...? They were released at the same time so I don't think the Armada was an after thought. I'm cool with you not liking the looks of the mada, I'm just curious about this comment.
3) I think the looks of the pathfinder are right on the money. I don't look at it and think conservative. I look at the entire jeep line-up and think conservative. Nissan has got it goin' on and I'm always supprised that the rest of the world doesn't see it. It keeps the prices low I guess, so that's cool.
The Armada is the same tuning. The Armada is significantly heavier. Nissan re-rated their performance as the new standard came out and the Titan and Armada are rated the same.
Several publications have rated the Pathy a few tenths of a second slower than the Titan in stock form. The trouble for the Titan is that it lacks in stock form compared to the Pathy. It lacks side steps, receiver hitch, bedliner, and bed cover (tonneau/lid/topper). The Pathy doesn't need anything more to be fully functional compared to the Titan I had. When the weight is added to the additions, it equals the performance.
Now having had both, the Pathy does better performance wise from a highway or town road speed than the Titan. It's power is tuned better for road way speeds. The Titan is tuned better for grunt off the starting line. The Titan has better torque ratio but it just doesn't get up and go once going like the Pathy. The Pathy had good torque for towing with it's 4.0L engine but has better HP ratio than Torque where the opposite is true for the Titan. The Titan and Armada are geared more for heavier loads.
I've only read of one test with the Armada and it was timed faster than the Titan but that was only one test compared to the several I've read for the Titan and Pathy. Since the Armada doesn't need any additional items as the Titan does for functionality, I'd have to believe it offers the same performance as the Pathy but strong in off line performance and weaker with road performance as I found with the Titan and Pathy.
Regardless, they all offer great performance.
What I really didn't like in design on the Armada was the arc in the roofline. I still am in disbelief that they went so radical on that design. I simply don't like it. It looks to pieced together and the lines don't flow for a simplistic, and natural look. Some like this unorthodox design, I hate it. It wouldn't keep me from buying it as nothing is designed perfect as individual tastes are different. The Pathy is as perfect to a design as I like. I also like the old 4Runners and not so much the newer ones. Loved my 2000 Xterra but have mixed feeling on the looks of the new Xterra. Still love the look of the Titan if only they'd let it grow up and get at least a 6.5' bed on the crew cab. 8' bed would be excellent and have it compete with the 1/2 ton 1500 Dodge Ram Crew Cab, 8' bed version.
Have a good one.