and here I thought I bought an SUV :damn: , I guess I am gonna sell my van and buy a car92TripleBlack said:1. 13/17 is about what I get if I'm not hammering the gas at every light.
2. Traction. The reason you buy an SUV vs. a Van is traction. SUVs are vans with the added ability of 4x4 for snow, off road, heavy water/flooding, etc. It is also good for me for boat ramps for example. I would never own an SUV that wasn't 4x4, and I would never call a 4x2 an SUV. On the minus side, you will gain some weight, loose a minimal amount of mileage (maybe a half mile a gallon or so due to added weight and friction) and you have more things to maintain. Well worth it to me.
Just my opinion. Without 4WD, there is no SU in SUV. Its just a V.ggeorgie said:and here I thought I bought an SUV :damn: , I guess I am gonna sell my van and buy a car
that's a good one92TripleBlack said:Just my opinion. Without 4WD, there is no SU in SUV. Its just a V.
newman said:Hello All,
This site is GREAT!!! Lots of valualbe information. This site really helps me wanting to go get my new Armada... I have few questions and I would appreciate your feed backs.
1. What is the actual mileage do you get on the Armada in City and/or Highway?
2. I am thinking about getting 06' Armada LE 2X4, but if I go with 4X4 what would be the advantages getting 4X4?
Thanks,
drcookie said:Why bother shop/buy for a SUV if you don't plan to get a 4x4?
how about telling that to the hundreds of "SE" or "LE" 4x2 owners? sometimes you have to look at the other side and not be blind all the time. not ALL the people live where it snows 8 months a year or it rains every other day, or they go off-roading 3 days a week, or tow 8000lbs boat. they buy for the need not always the pleasure... but like you " just my opinion"
I just did.inf3rno said:
nopMike Up said:First of all I had a Titan which was roughly 300 lbs lighter than a comparable Off Road 4X4 Armada. I was getting 13.2 mpg driving to work which entails expressway, backroads, highways with a lot of stopping, passing, and slowing down. The best was going from Chicago to Arkansas and was 16.5 mpg with cruise control on and doing 65 mph for one tank. Other tanks seen higher mph and went down to about 16 mpg. This was with cruise on, none stop.
My Titan was a loaded out 4X4 Titan XE Crew Cab with the Off Road package that added lower gearing for better torque when towing or off roading. So I most likely gave up 1 mpg for that. My Pathy does 17.5 mpg where the Titan did 13.2, and I have the same gearing.
There is no way I would ever consider 2WD in a SUV. As other's pointed out, might as well get a van. In fact, if there were any full size vans that were lifted with 4X4 as in the old days, I would had opted for one of those. I like having a bed and table for camping. I know they're still made by outfitters but you pay out the @ss.
Anyhow, you do take a hit on resale when getting a 2WD. Trucks take a hit but not as bad since they have a sole purpose of hauling and many have to have one for work. SUVs are known to be Sport Utility Vehicles, not VANS. Not much Sport or Utility if you can't go places without worry. If you just need a people hauler and towing capabilities, there are some darn nice conversion vans out there. Like I said, I thought about a conversion van but they're 2WD. If I have any vehicle with standard rear wheel drive, it MUST have a 4WD part time option. If for nothing else, safety when driving in pouring rain thunderstorms and the snow. If you have a boat, good luck getting off that slick ramp with 2WD. If you hunt, good luck getting to your hunting spot. If you camp and not "RV", good luck in getting to those good spots while not getting stuck. If you want "Sport" and "Utility", you won't get it with 2WD. If you just want "Vehicle", then go and get 2WD.
Did I make my point?
Have a good one.
Your point was as sharp as a bowling ball.Mike Up said:First of all I had a Titan which was roughly 300 lbs lighter than a comparable Off Road 4X4 Armada. I was getting 13.2 mpg driving to work which entails expressway, backroads, highways with a lot of stopping, passing, and slowing down. The best was going from Chicago to Arkansas and was 16.5 mpg with cruise control on and doing 65 mph for one tank. Other tanks seen higher mph and went down to about 16 mpg. This was with cruise on, none stop.
My Titan was a loaded out 4X4 Titan XE Crew Cab with the Off Road package that added lower gearing for better torque when towing or off roading. So I most likely gave up 1 mpg for that. My Pathy does 17.5 mpg where the Titan did 13.2, and I have the same gearing.
There is no way I would ever consider 2WD in a SUV. As other's pointed out, might as well get a van. In fact, if there were any full size vans that were lifted with 4X4 as in the old days, I would had opted for one of those. I like having a bed and table for camping. I know they're still made by outfitters but you pay out the @ss.
Anyhow, you do take a hit on resale when getting a 2WD. Trucks take a hit but not as bad since they have a sole purpose of hauling and many have to have one for work. SUVs are known to be Sport Utility Vehicles, not VANS. Not much Sport or Utility if you can't go places without worry. If you just need a people hauler and towing capabilities, there are some darn nice conversion vans out there. Like I said, I thought about a conversion van but they're 2WD. If I have any vehicle with standard rear wheel drive, it MUST have a 4WD part time option. If for nothing else, safety when driving in pouring rain thunderstorms and the snow. If you have a boat, good luck getting off that slick ramp with 2WD. If you hunt, good luck getting to your hunting spot. If you camp and not "RV", good luck in getting to those good spots while not getting stuck. If you want "Sport" and "Utility", you won't get it with 2WD. If you just want "Vehicle", then go and get 2WD.
Did I make my point?
Have a good one.
For 99% of you all that take your 4WD offroading once a year or thinking that splashing some mud onto the sides off your Armada or Pathfinder is offroading, there's a whole bunch of other people that wonder why you all got 4WD.Mike Up said:First of all I had a Titan which was roughly 300 lbs lighter than a comparable Off Road 4X4 Armada. I was getting 13.2 mpg driving to work which entails expressway, backroads, highways with a lot of stopping, passing, and slowing down. The best was going from Chicago to Arkansas and was 16.5 mpg with cruise control on and doing 65 mph for one tank. Other tanks seen higher mph and went down to about 16 mpg. This was with cruise on, none stop.
My Titan was a loaded out 4X4 Titan XE Crew Cab with the Off Road package that added lower gearing for better torque when towing or off roading. So I most likely gave up 1 mpg for that. My Pathy does 17.5 mpg where the Titan did 13.2, and I have the same gearing.
There is no way I would ever consider 2WD in a SUV. As other's pointed out, might as well get a van. In fact, if there were any full size vans that were lifted with 4X4 as in the old days, I would had opted for one of those. I like having a bed and table for camping. I know they're still made by outfitters but you pay out the @ss.
Anyhow, you do take a hit on resale when getting a 2WD. Trucks take a hit but not as bad since they have a sole purpose of hauling and many have to have one for work. SUVs are known to be Sport Utility Vehicles, not VANS. Not much Sport or Utility if you can't go places without worry. If you just need a people hauler and towing capabilities, there are some darn nice conversion vans out there. Like I said, I thought about a conversion van but they're 2WD. If I have any vehicle with standard rear wheel drive, it MUST have a 4WD part time option. If for nothing else, safety when driving in pouring rain thunderstorms and the snow. If you have a boat, good luck getting off that slick ramp with 2WD. If you hunt, good luck getting to your hunting spot. If you camp and not "RV", good luck in getting to those good spots while not getting stuck. If you want "Sport" and "Utility", you won't get it with 2WD. If you just want "Vehicle", then go and get 2WD.
Did I make my point?
Have a good one.
