[Sierraatkinson]

Hi everyone! We bought our Armada because of the high tow capacity but we are struggling! We get so much sag with our trailer hooked up and when we go up our local mountain our transmission temps and engine temps go way up. We always have to pull over. I don’t think we have the distribution hitch correct (because of the sag)

trailer is a 2016 heartland mallard m32

hitch is a haul master 10,000 lb hitch

 

[RangerStrange]

It sounds like you have the air suspension in the back that is leaking/not inflating/generally not working as intended. Could be a leaking shock, hose, connectiion, etc. Or a leaking seal on the pump. Or a malfunctioning pump. Or a malfunctioning leveling switch.

Many have removed the air suspension entirely, search on here for a wealth of knowledge on the Moog spring/Bilstein shock replacement.

As for the transmission temps, I've got nothing outside fluid quality or cooler inadquacy. There are likely other, less simple, causes.

 

[Sierraatkinson]

It sounds like you have the air suspension in the back that is leaking/not inflating/generally not working as intended. Could be a leaking shock, hose, connectiion, etc. Or a leaking seal on the pump. Or a malfunctioning pump. Or a malfunctioning leveling switch.

Many have removed the air suspension entirely, search on here for a wealth of knowledge on the Moog spring/Bilstein shock replacement.

As for the transmission temps, I've got nothing outside fluid quality or cooler inadquacy. There are likely other, less simple, causes.
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Thankfully the transmission has never over heated, it just gets way to close to the line for comfort.

 

[Sierraatkinson]

It sounds like you have the air suspension in the back that is leaking/not inflating/generally not working as intended. Could be a leaking shock, hose, connectiion, etc. Or a leaking seal on the pump. Or a malfunctioning pump. Or a malfunctioning leveling switch.

Many have removed the air suspension entirely, search on here for
my husband doesn’t seem to think we have an air suspension

 

[RangerStrange]

If you are squatting without a busted air suspension, you likely either exceded the tongue weight by not loading the trailer correctly and/or have worn out springs.

 

[Sierraatkinson]

If you are squatting without a busted air suspension, you likely either exceded the tongue weight by not loading the trailer correctly and/or have worn out springs.

I’m not sure if I’m even replying to these correctly

thank you for your help. I’m looking in my manual to see anything about air suspension but am not seeing anything. I’m hoping the issue is that we’re not using the stabilizer hitch correctly. Should we add helper bags?

 

[RangerStrange]

While they never hurt, I would make sure I knew WHY it was sagging first.

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[Sierraatkinson]

Okay. Thank you. How can I know for sure if I have air suspension already?

While they never hurt, I would make sure I knew WHY it was sagging first.

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[RangerStrange]

If your shocks look like this, you have the air suspension:

 

[Sierraatkinson]

If your shocks look like this, you have the air suspension:

Ok and if I have that, and that’s the issue and it gets fixed, would helped bags still even be worth it?

 

[RangerStrange]

If you fix the air ride suspension, no.

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[49RFootballNow]

I recommend these:

https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Suspension/Nissan/Armada/Firestone/F4150.html

For towing these guys have a really good setup calculation spreadsheet:

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[Sierraatkinson]

The mechanic said the air suspension needs repaired. I’m leaning towards doing a conversion and adding timbrens or something similar. But I’m not sure which conversion kit to use so my tow capacity isn’t effected.

While they never hurt, I would make sure I knew WHY it was sagging first.

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[RangerStrange]

See here for parts list:
Good write up

Add the Firestone bags above as needed.

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Profit.

 

[rpopp3]

See here for parts list:
Good write up

Add the Firestone bags above as needed.

???

Profit.

Hi everyone! We bought our Armada because of the high tow capacity but we are struggling! We get so much sag with our trailer hooked up and when we go up our local mountain our transmission temps and engine temps go way up. We always have to pull over. I don’t think we have the distribution hitch correct (because of the sag)

trailer is a 2016 heartland mallard m32

hitch is a haul master 10,000 lb hitch

Trans temp: make sure to use "TOW" mode and 4 gear, Ours went to the high end in 5"D"

 

[gtech215]

There are also aftermarket transmission coolers you could check out. After my "black coffee' experience I tell everyone to check that trans fluid - make sure it's nice and clean. I've read write ups here about Armadas pulling ten thousand pounds - with the right setup of springs, shocks, bags, and trans coolers.