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I was pulling into a parking place at work today, going about 5 miles an hour.....I pressed the brake pedal and it went all the way to the floor.....NO BRAKES!!! I pumped the brakes 2 more times and the pressed the pedal again and it went all the way to the floor again....by this time off course I was at the end of the parking spot...I pressed in the e-brake pedal with my left foot but by then it was to late, my wheels locked up and I skided about 5 inches into a light pole with my front lower bumper....wish me luck I am talking with Nissan right now to figure out what went wrong....FYI the brake fluid level in the car was fine....vehical is a 2005 Nissan Armada LE!
 

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This seems to be a problem one too many people have encountered. As far as I know there has been no resolution or reason this happens. Peddle height has nothing to do with this problem some have had. I am not too comfortable knowing several Armadas I have read about just lost their bakes out of nowhere. Nissan needs to figure this one out and come clean real quick before someone dies. I have owned 3 Pfinders in the past and always felt safe driving them. This is a problem that makes me question the safety of my current truck, especially if my wife and child are in it or driving it.
 

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Update on the situation.....looks like Nissan is going to repair the damage caused by the faulty breaks without to much hassle (not like they have a choice). They are also going to give me a loaner car until the work is done. Damage is pretty minimal because I was going slow. I will post up a couple of pics later.
 

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Update on the situation.....looks like Nissan is going to repair the damage caused by the faulty breaks without to much hassle (not like they have a choice). They are also going to give me a loaner car until the work is done. Damage is pretty minimal because I was going slow. I will post up a couple of pics later.
good to hear that everything is taken car of. are you posting a pic of your loaner car or your wreck mada? :D
 

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Wonder if this is related to someone else having similiar problem. The dealer reported contamination in the master cylinder and changed fluid and replaced something else?
Let us know what the dealer finds. A heads up would be very helpful to the rest of us.
350Z loaner, that would be nice. I got a Ford Focus loaner. Someone changed the second letter in Focus to a "u". After driving for about 5 minutes, I realized how true that is.
 

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Oh my god - this is exactly what happened with my Armada. I bought my Armada January of 2004. I had it three weeks when I was driving home from work and when I pushed the brake to stop at the red light, the brake pedal went all the way to the floor and the car kept going! Luckily there was no one in the turning lane next to me and I jumped over there and pushed on the emergency brake which slowed me to a stop, with heart racing! Nissan sent a flatbed wrecker to my house and took the Armada back to the dealership. Two days later they called me and said it was ready. They told me they couldn't find anything wrong with it, that I must have hit the button accidentally that raises the pedals up and down. I told them I didn't, that the pedal went all the way to the floor and they were damn lucky I didn't hit the car in front of me. Then they asked me what was lit up on the dashboard. I said I wasn't looking at the dashboard!!! I was too busy looking for a place to run to avoid a collision. I took it and it drove fine - for a week. I was backing out of the garage and when I pushed on the brake pedal, it fell all the way to floor and we rolled across the front lawn together. Again, Nissan sent a flatbed to the house and this time my husband went to the dealership behind it. I don't know what he said but the dealership was contacted by Nissan Motors who told them NOT to touch the vehicle. They sent a Nissan representative from somewhere up North, I don't remember where and two Nissan technicians from California all came to Sutherlin Nissan in Atlanta where my Armada was. They removed the entire brake assembly, hoses and whatever else that goes with it and took it all back to California. They had my vehicle for 3 weeks and gave me a stupid rental car of some sort. The technicians kept it until they got it to "duplicate" what happened with me. When I got it back, the brakes were fixed, it was washed, polished and they even gave me a Gift Certificate for dinner for two! The only thing they told me was that there was "debris" in the master cylinder. I believe they were worried there was about to be a major recall; when I got my Armada, I never even saw another one on the road or anywhere else for months. So it was fairly new. Wow - but it isn't over yet. Since that brake job, I have had it back in the dealership 7 times in 2 years for rotors and pads. They told me, hey, at least I would have new brakes for free for the life of the car. I told them if you think I am going to bring this car in every 3 months for the rest of it's life, you are sadly mistaken!! The last time they fixed it, they changed it out with the new brakes and I haven't had any more problems with the brakes, not even the black, yucky brake dust!! Yippee! (They didn't know it, but I wouldn't have given them back my Mada even if they offered to exchange it for another one. I love mine, brakes or no brakes!
 

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Oh my god - this is exactly what happened with my Armada. I bought my Armada January of 2004. I had it three weeks when I was driving home from work and when I pushed the brake to stop at the red light, the brake pedal went all the way to the floor and the car kept going! Luckily there was no one in the turning lane next to me and I jumped over there and pushed on the emergency brake which slowed me to a stop, with heart racing! Nissan sent a flatbed wrecker to my house and took the Armada back to the dealership. Two days later they called me and said it was ready. They told me they couldn't find anything wrong with it, that I must have hit the button accidentally that raises the pedals up and down. I told them I didn't, that the pedal went all the way to the floor and they were damn lucky I didn't hit the car in front of me. Then they asked me what was lit up on the dashboard. I said I wasn't looking at the dashboard!!! I was too busy looking for a place to run to avoid a collision. I took it and it drove fine - for a week. I was backing out of the garage and when I pushed on the brake pedal, it fell all the way to floor and we rolled across the front lawn together. Again, Nissan sent a flatbed to the house and this time my husband went to the dealership behind it. I don't know what he said but the dealership was contacted by Nissan Motors who told them NOT to touch the vehicle. They sent a Nissan representative from somewhere up North, I don't remember where and two Nissan technicians from California all came to Sutherlin Nissan in Atlanta where my Armada was. They removed the entire brake assembly, hoses and whatever else that goes with it and took it all back to California. They had my vehicle for 3 weeks and gave me a stupid rental car of some sort. The technicians kept it until they got it to "duplicate" what happened with me. When I got it back, the brakes were fixed, it was washed, polished and they even gave me a Gift Certificate for dinner for two! The only thing they told me was that there was "debris" in the master cylinder. I believe they were worried there was about to be a major recall; when I got my Armada, I never even saw another one on the road or anywhere else for months. So it was fairly new. Wow - but it isn't over yet. Since that brake job, I have had it back in the dealership 7 times in 2 years for rotors and pads. They told me, hey, at least I would have new brakes for free for the life of the car. I told them if you think I am going to bring this car in every 3 months for the rest of it's life, you are sadly mistaken!! The last time they fixed it, they changed it out with the new brakes and I haven't had any more problems with the brakes, not even the black, yucky brake dust!! Yippee! (They didn't know it, but I wouldn't have given them back my Mada even if they offered to exchange it for another one. I love mine, brakes or no brakes!

Wow that's crazy....that would have scared the crap out off me. I hope that they find something wrong with mine.
 

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Yes - do NOT let Nissan tell you there is nothing wrong with them, that it just needs fluid or something - there IS something dangerously wrong and I can tell you that it WILL happen again and the next time you might not be so lucky. I asked my husband what he said that started such a panic that Nissan would send all those reps and techs to Atlanta. He told them that the first time it happened, it was a relatively new car and Nissan didn't know about it yet and since nothing seriously happened, it was a given. But the second time, Nissan told me there was nothing wrong with the brakes, even though I told them everything it did, and put me back out on the road in an unsafe vehicle with no brakes. He told them if I had been injured or killed, he would have owned Nissan. They were just lucky that the brakes collapsed in the driveway because in 2 minutes, I would have been out on Highway 20 running 65 to 70 mph and they would have collapsed then. At that time, we didn't know it was an issue with a lot of Armadas, we thought it was just mine and I got some bad brakes. But apparently there was a bad batch of brakes that went on several cars (mine is also an LE) and yours is the same thing mine was, it's the master cylinder. The California techs got the brakes to collapse three times while they had it and that is when they took off the entire brake assembly and sent it back to California. That is where they discovered the "debris" in the master cylinder and why it took them 3 weeks to get my car fixed. I've had the car 2 years now and I've driven it to Texas, twice to Florida, twice to Tennessee (through curvy mountains) and once to Biloxi, Mississippi and New Orleans without an issue. The brakes are perfect now but had they not changed out the entire brake assembly, it could have been a total loss by now. Whatever you do, do NOT let them give you back the car until they change out your master cylinder, because it WILL happen to you again. If they give you a hard time, tell them to call Sutherlin Nissan in Atlanta and they can tell them exactly what the California techs told them and what happened and could have happened. Good luck to you! :)
 

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They gave me a 2006 Chevy Silvarado Crew Cab for a loaner.....it feels very cheap compaired to my Mada'......thanks for all of the info in the thread so far and I will keep you guys posted as I recieve updates.
 

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Ha Ha - you know what they gave me to drive for a loaner? A Ford Focus! It was like driving a go-kart! All I needed was an orange flag :eek: After the first week, I took it back and said I just couldn't drive this little four-wheel sewing machine after being in my Armada. So they improved somewhat to a Honda Civic. It wasn't a whole lot bigger but at least it had a cd player instead of an 8-track with an AM radio! :confused: I drove that one for two more weeks. I was just about getting used to the gas mileage when I got the beast back ;) I sure hope your dealership steps up to the plate for you and doesn't try to throw you back out there without a net. Good Luck...
 

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When Nissan put my car on the lift at the dealership the brakes worked fine...they are now telling me that I need to come and pick up my car and file a claim with my insurance for the damages on my vehical.....HA HA HA. They did not check the master cylinder/brake booster like I requested......I am not taking the car back until they find the problem. The car is unsafe as it sits now. Nissan of America could make this so much easier on themselves if they would acknowledge the problem and fix it instead of making me go thru the hassle of getting my attorney involved. I have owned 4 Nissan's thru-out my life time and currently own 2 with my wife driving a 2002 Nissan Alitima 3.5 SE. They have just lost a life long customer by their actions......Wish me luck.
 
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