A weight distribution hitch does not reduce your tongue weight, it only transfers some of it from the rear axle to the front. If you exceed your tongue weight, you will quickly exceed the GVWR of the Armada.creeksidemike said:
Need to exceed max tongue weight of 1000lbs
I am looking at a Crossroads Cruiser CT32SB trailer and the trailer has a tongue weight of 1200lbs. I know the max tongue weight is 1000 lbs but I of course will be using a weight distribution hitch. Having said that will the weight distribution hitch reduce the overall tongue weight on the trailer to less than 1200lbs and I would be ok? Looking for some feedback to see if anyone else has tried more than 1000lbs.
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What mods can I make to my Armada to boost GVWR?Campfamily said:A weight distribution hitch does not reduce your tongue weight, it only transfers some of it from the rear axle to the front. If you exceed your tongue weight, you will quickly exceed the GVWR of the Armada.
Heres a more detailed explanation of what Campfamily stated:
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/14265335.cfm
What is the UVW (unloaded vehicle weight) of the trailer. It appears to be a 32 footer based on model number, which I would not tow with my Armada...thats my personal opinion though. Also confirm that the 'gross combined vehicle weight rating' is not exceeded (Armada weight with passengers/cargo added to loaded trailer (UVW + cargo, water, gray/black tanks).
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Here's the specs on the trailer you're considering:
Dry Weight: 7428 (without options)
GVWR: 11065
Carrying Capacity: 3637
Hitch Weight: 1200
Axle Weight: N/A
Tire Size: 205/75R15
Exterior Length: 35' 3"
Exterior Height (With A/C): 11' 0"
Fresh Water Capacity: 58 gallons
Black Water Capacity: 40 gallons
Gray/Galley Water Capacity: 80 gallons
The Armada 2wd has a maximum tongue weight with weight distribution bars of 910 lbs assuming you have the Tow Package (650 lbs tongue weight w/o tow package). Refer to Owner's Manual. The GCVWR with tow package and weight distribution is: 2wd-14599lbs 4wd-14799lbs
Based on these numbers you should look for a lighter trailer.
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/14265335.cfm
What is the UVW (unloaded vehicle weight) of the trailer. It appears to be a 32 footer based on model number, which I would not tow with my Armada...thats my personal opinion though. Also confirm that the 'gross combined vehicle weight rating' is not exceeded (Armada weight with passengers/cargo added to loaded trailer (UVW + cargo, water, gray/black tanks).
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Here's the specs on the trailer you're considering:
Dry Weight: 7428 (without options)
GVWR: 11065
Carrying Capacity: 3637
Hitch Weight: 1200
Axle Weight: N/A
Tire Size: 205/75R15
Exterior Length: 35' 3"
Exterior Height (With A/C): 11' 0"
Fresh Water Capacity: 58 gallons
Black Water Capacity: 40 gallons
Gray/Galley Water Capacity: 80 gallons
The Armada 2wd has a maximum tongue weight with weight distribution bars of 910 lbs assuming you have the Tow Package (650 lbs tongue weight w/o tow package). Refer to Owner's Manual. The GCVWR with tow package and weight distribution is: 2wd-14599lbs 4wd-14799lbs
Based on these numbers you should look for a lighter trailer.
Sell it and buy a Excursion, 3/4t Suburban or a HD PU truck. This amount of weight is in the realm of HD3/4 and 1ton trucks. Besides being unsafe for your family and nearby motorist, you will wear out your Armada prematurely.creeksidemike said:What mods can I make to my Armada to boost GVWR?
Even a lot of 3/4 ton trucks will need to be modified as they usually come with class 4 hitches. This type of weight will demand a class 5. That's pushing it with a standard 3/4 ton, sounds like a 1 ton would be the safest choice.Cillyone said:Sell it and buy a Excursion, 3/4t Suburban or a HD PU truck. This amount of weight is in the realm of HD3/4 and 1ton trucks. Besides being unsafe for your family and nearby motorist, you will wear out your Armada prematurely.
An Excursion will be right at it's limits at 11,000 lbs with the V10 and 4.3 gearing. A 3/4 ton Suburban will need the 4.10 gearing and Vortec 8100 engine to handle that.
Have a good one.
creeksidemike said:I am looking at a Crossroads Cruiser CT32SB trailer and the trailer has a tongue weight of 1200lbs. I know the max tongue weight is 1000 lbs but I of course will be using a weight distribution hitch. Having said that will the weight distribution hitch reduce the overall tongue weight on the trailer to less than 1200lbs and I would be ok? Looking for some feedback to see if anyone else has tried more than 1000lbs.
Start looking at other trailers.
As much as we love our Armadas, you have the wrong truck for that job or need to get a smaller trailer. You need a a HD 3/4 ton diesel or preferably a one ton rig.
Ideally it sounds like I need to reduce the tongue weight by 300-400 lbs which is not an impossibility. I am going to have a call with the manufacturer to see if I can relocate the batteries, spare tire, propane tanks and more to the rear to save some weight in the front end and move it to the back. The overalll weight of the trailer is not a big concern at 7300 lbs its just the tongue weight.
Thanks to everyone for their feedback.
Thanks to everyone for their feedback.
Don't put too much on the back, or you are likely to get some nasty sway. You should be between 12 to 15% of the total weight on the tongue.creeksidemike said:Ideally it sounds like I need to reduce the tongue weight by 300-400 lbs which is not an impossibility. I am going to have a call with the manufacturer to see if I can relocate the batteries, spare tire, propane tanks and more to the rear to save some weight in the front end and move it to the back. The overalll weight of the trailer is not a big concern at 7300 lbs its just the tongue weight.
Thanks to everyone for their feedback.
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or...keep it under 50 mph and stay 1000 feet behind the vehicle in front! :bonvoyage
or...keep it under 50 mph and stay 1000 feet behind the vehicle in front! :bonvoyage
At the end of the day I opted for a different trailer that has only 750 lbs tongue weight. The other route was too much risk. Thanks to everyone who helped with the good info.
Safest thing you could have done, good job.creeksidemike said:At the end of the day I opted for a different trailer that has only 750 lbs tongue weight. The other route was too much risk. Thanks to everyone who helped with the good info.
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