Nissan Armada & Infiniti QX56 Forums banner

1 - 7 of 7 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,707 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
i can't believe this...my dad said he id probably going to return the '04 Armada...:(!!! b/c of the problems...sick of them...rotors warp like crazy and there is already 70,000KM on it and we have had the Armada for a year...yikes...he wants to return the Armada and get two new cars...One SUV and one car...can u guys help me out here to decide which car and SUV to get lol? we need a car that it great or even good enough gas mileage and a SUV too i guess...i was thinking of getting a Lexus Rh400 the hybrid SUV. or a Van or something...and for the car maybe the 300C AWD..AWD b/c we live in Canada :p ahhh i don't want to give up the Armada though!! :( or maybe we might geat the 2006 Armada later on, but for now we need two new cars...but...which one? :confused: but what yall think about the 300C AWD? is it worth it? good gas? ANY BRAKE PROBLEMS LOL?!?!?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,363 Posts
hullio said:
i can't believe this...my dad said he id probably going to return the '04 Armada...:(!!! b/c of the problems...sick of them...rotors warp like crazy and there is already 70,000KM on it and we have had the Armada for a year...yikes...he wants to return the Armada and get two new cars...One SUV and one car...can u guys help me out here to decide which car and SUV to get lol? we need a car that it great or even good enough gas mileage and a SUV too i guess...i was thinking of getting a Lexus Rh400 the hybrid SUV. or a Van or something...and for the car maybe the 300C AWD..AWD b/c we live in Canada :p ahhh i don't want to give up the Armada though!! :( or maybe we might geat the 2006 Armada later on, but for now we need two new cars...but...which one? :confused: but what yall think about the 300C AWD? is it worth it? good gas? ANY BRAKE PROBLEMS LOL?!?!?
Toyota Sequoia had brake problems for over 3 years before they admitted it. The Lexus to me is a RAV4 with expensive seats. Not a true SUV in any shape of the word it, it is a 4x4 car. Subaru would probably do better in most traction poor situations. '06 and May '05 and newer Armadas don't have brake problems. They have the new setup that you should be able to get.
If you guys are set on getting new cars, describe your"
Budget
Needs (how many adults to seat, towing, bad weather driving, options, etc.)
and we can give you some good ideas.

EX: I might recommend WRX but it you can't get a sunroof or leather seats with it.
I love my G35 and it comes in AWD also. ;)
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,707 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Income is around $250,000 ish CAD after taxes...no towing...2 adults, 1 senior, 2 kids. We want a luxury car and a cheap, but good van/SUV..OR..a luxury SUV and a cheap/but still good Van and or another SUV. We are looking for two vehicles...For luxury car i was deciding 300C AWD fully loaded and some cheap SUV to go along with it maybe like the basic Pathfinder? Iunno...lol...or the other option is to get a luxury fully loaded SUV and another cheap Van/SUV...i'm so confused lol...we live in Toronto, Ontario so we need AWD for the more difficult situations in Winter...Remember, we don't tow anything but we still like big heavy duty trucks like the Armada :) It's good to hear that the brake problem could be fixed but it already has 70,000KM on it and we want a fresh car
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,363 Posts
Never was a Chrysler fan. I'd try a few test drives first. BMW 3 and 5 series, Infiniti G35 and M45, and Merc. C and E classes. Also try the Pontiac GTO. These should give you similar power and price point.
For SUV, try Xterra, Grand Cherokee Laredo, Pathfinder, and Forerunner and skip the sneakers on wheels Rav4/RX stuff.

Remember, the problems are fixed in the newer ones. The brakes were fixed in all Mada/QX made May '05 or after. Maybe an '06 QX56 and Honda minivan? ;)
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
215 Posts
A new Armada or QX56 is your real solution. But if you are looking for the hot car and separate "fuel efficient SUV," then the problem is that there are lots of well engineered exciting hot cars in your price range, but "fuel efficient SUV" is an oxymoron.

Of the hot cars, give strong consideration to the Infiniti G35, M35 and the incredible M45 which I believe Car and Driver just said was the best of the best in that category.

Back to SUV's:

A true SUV is going to be on a truck frame. It is going to be sturdy. It is going to be heavy. It is going to have substantial ground clearance. It is going to have big tires. It is going to be capable of taking you off-road, at least occasionally, and not embarass itself. It's going to have some towing capability, even if you don't use it.

Those vehicles claiming to be new generation SUV's do not have separate ladder frames and are likely to be unibody construction. They don't have a lot of torque because they are not being asked to do real SUV stuff. They are low to the ground like a passenger car, because that is really what they are, but with an SUV styled higher "stationwagon" type enclosed area behind the rear seats rather than a trunk.

Because they weigh substantially less, they will get considerably better gas mileage.

Of the vehicles of that consideration, perhaps the one that makes the most sense is the Toyota Highlander. Perhaps a natural for a high school senior to take off to college and haul all of his junk in? At least as long as you stay on good roads and don't decide you need to pull that trailer full of stuff for your dorm room or off-campus apartment.

But . . . it is not a true SUV. And it never will be.

Just one guy's opinion.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,707 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
i'm feelin the Merc. E AWD class...but why not get the the 300C AWD...almost same...just the name really...i thought they both use almost the same electronics and stuff...i know that the AWD system is that same as Mercs. 4-Matic. but i haven't heard that many good things about the G35 sedan...that was actually the car i WANTED my dad to get (G35x (AWD) Sedan fully loaded) but i have head many problems with it...especially the brakes...the mechanic that fixes our Armada said that his uncle has a QX56 and a G35 sedan and he recalled that both has severe brake problems and that those two cars aren't really recomended...but otherwise i thought G35 was the best in every case..Style, power, comfort, etc. BMW is alright but a lil' too pricey for what u get...but we just need two cars..one luxury and other one which we could just be w/e with it lol..iunno how to explain...my dad sometimes picks up stuff like boxes and other stuff, you know just moving things around...i didn't like that b/c the Armada interior got lil scratched up :( and so that is why we need a big SUV/Van for sure that we can just play around with :chainsaw: lol
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,363 Posts
hullio said:
i'm feelin the Merc. E AWD class...but why not get the the 300C AWD...almost same...just the name really...i thought they both use almost the same electronics and stuff...i know that the AWD system is that same as Mercs. 4-Matic. but i haven't heard that many good things about the G35 sedan...that was actually the car i WANTED my dad to get (G35x (AWD) Sedan fully loaded) but i have head many problems with it...especially the brakes...the mechanic that fixes our Armada said that his uncle has a QX56 and a G35 sedan and he recalled that both has severe brake problems and that those two cars aren't really recomended...but otherwise i thought G35 was the best in every case..Style, power, comfort, etc. BMW is alright but a lil' too pricey for what u get...but we just need two cars..one luxury and other one which we could just be w/e with it lol..iunno how to explain...my dad sometimes picks up stuff like boxes and other stuff, you know just moving things around...i didn't like that b/c the Armada interior got lil scratched up :( and so that is why we need a big SUV/Van for sure that we can just play around with :chainsaw: lol
Hmmm. 300=hemi=chrysler motor. Merc =german motor.
G35 had the exact same brake issues that Armada and every other Nissan/infiniti had in 2003 and 2004. They fixed the brakes on them in 2004. I know, I have one. I got a postcard 3 months after I got it to come in and have the brakes replaced for free. It was a soft recall, which they will probably eventually do with the Armada. Nissan had a deal with a bad brake rotor and pad supplier. That deal is gone and buried. New brakes are great. Also, the problems were never "severe". They were common. case in point, Sequioa had the identical warping rotors and pad problems we had for 3 years without saying anything. The same problems are also prevelant in Ford, Dodge, and GM. Nissan as far as I can see has been the most responsive and responsible about correcting the situation out of all the above makers.

As for the G. Car and Driver named it car of the year in '03 and a top 10 car every year its been out. 350Z 300hp motor, suspension, etc. It kicks tail. Feels solid as a rock at 125mph, more so than my vette. Handles great. No comparison vs. 300. which feels like a dinosaur next to the G35. My buddy got a new BMW 325 two weeks after I got my G, paid $4k more, and then wanted to return it after he drove my G. Bigger, faster, better handling, better road feel, more comfortable, etc. He couldn't find a reason to like his new BMW. I let it go a month before I said,"Dude, you have a BMW. Best car you've ever owned. Chill."
Bottomline, test drive, don't go on spec sheets or by "rep". If I had in front of me the following cars and could only pick one I would pick them in the following order:
$40K +
Merc E class(most expensive also averaging $55k)
Infiniti M45 $47k
Lexus GS 430 $51k
Audi A6 $48
BMW 530 $45k

$30k +
G35S $32k
BMW 330 $33K
Merc C class $35k
Chrysler 300 $38K

And I'd pick the G35 over the 530 and A6. The 300 isn't even listed as a luxury vehicle, classed instead with Crown Vic as a large sedan. Only thing the 300C has over any of the above is sheer acceleration. But it handles like a pig next to all of them and they aren't slow by any means. Heck, if you want to look at something fast, look at the '06 GTO. That would rape a 300C on the road and at the track.

Sorry, but the 300C got the "baby Bentley" image from the basic shape of it looking like the Bentley, not because it is a quality luxury sedan.

Just drive them and then let me know if I was wrong. I told my buddy this and now he hates what he did and will for another 3 years. ;)
 
1 - 7 of 7 Posts
Top