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I took a 4 hours trip this weekend to visit family on New Years Day. I decided I should go the next day to Northwest OHV park.

Woke up, took my cousin's kids for the ride and we were on our way for the 1 hour 30 minutes drive to the offroad park. Get there, pay my $25 fee and into the park I go.


 

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The park was full of highly modded Jeeps. The other vehicles I saw were 3 ford explorers, one Landcruiser and one F150. I always stopped and talked to almost everybody I saw. They were all super helpful. I drove around and did some mild stuffs and some steep hills descend and ascend.

 

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When I was all done, I felt I needed some more challenge. But being alone, I could not do that. So, as I was going to another part of the park, I met this guy in his new F150. Great guy. He told me he was done and was about to leave, but seeing I was needing company to do some trails, he said he could take me on some trails. So he made a uturn and I started following him. He asked me if I had lockers, I said nope, but that my Armada should be fine. So off we went.

 

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I was truly happy he was willing to go with me. I hate that I was so excited I forgot to put my gopro on his truck to get some footage. I really hate I made that mistake of forgetting.

I must say it is amazing how things happen because this is the first time I have been on the trail without my tire carrier that has my spare matching tire and wheel. The original spare is under the truck.

I did not bring any of my tools that I have at home. Big mistake.

We drove one way on the left and it was pretty challenging, muddy and rocky. Got a few new pin stripes. Then we came back around where I took pics of both trucks. Then he told me this part we are about to get to is VERY ROCKY with SHARP rockets, super muddy, and super slippery. I said I am up for the challenge. Little did I know that a sharp rock was waiting for me infront that would cut through my sidewall and burst my tire.
 

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We started the rocky, muddy and super slippery part and I must say I was having a blast. My Armada was hitting its stomach on a few spots, but it was holding its own and we were going slow, but steady. Then got to this point where I was trying to avoid a rock, but I slid right back into the rock. I hate the move I made for I should have gone OVER the rock, but I tried to go around the rock which was not possible since it was muddy and slippery and I could not go up the embankment to go around the rock.

Well, I slid back into the track and my wheel was coming towards the rock and I soon as I touched it and felt I was spinning, I punched it and heard POP! And that was it, the rock cut through the sidewall of my BFGoodrich KO2.

I was in a bad spot to stop and I started losing air fast. I alerted the guy ahead and he pulled out of the way and I forged ahead saying I am heading to the closest clearing area. By the time I made it there, I was running on my rims.

We stopped at a clearing and gosh, did I feel bad. We were just the 2 of us there for like 5 minutes then slowly others started showing up and soon we had about 10 vehicles there all there to help me out. I was super grateful.

I really hated that I did not have my CB radio, tool box nor my tire carrier with my extra spare tire.
 

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First of all, the Armada jack is worthless to jack the rear of the car. I think I will be buying an extra jack soon.

To jack the rear to get the bursted tire off was tough. Even to take off my spare tire proved to be a challenge. When we finally got the bursted wheel off, the jack we used failed and my Armada basically dropped to the floor. No kidding. Then they used the largest truck there to winch me from the rear which raised the rear of my Armada and they put a jack under my rear, raised the rear a bit and put a jack that raised the Armada a bit for us to fit in the spare.

I then bolted everything up and it was all done. When I get back home, I will take the BFGoodrich spare I have and put it on, so I can keep this my spare back under the car.

When I started thanking everyone, the main guy who started the help with his high lift jack introduced himself to me as the owner of www.baertrax.com. And he told me most of the Jeeps who were there to help me, he did do all the jobs on them. And he said he could do some work for me to make my rig more capable than it is right now.

I thank all of them and they all waited for me to lead the way and finish the last difficult section of the trail while they all trailed behind me. When I finally got out, I bid them farewell and was on my way on my 1 hour 30 mins journey trip back to family. Tomorrow, I will take my 4 hours journey back home.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/baertrax-offroad-specialists-dallas-2

 

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The story now in pictures...




 

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Great right up. It's hard getting a good off road tire with strong side walls that is decent on the road. I had a Wrangler with really strong side walls but was miserable on road trips. I had a PRO-4x Titan that I took to Alaska, up the Yukon River, up the Haul Road to Prudhoe Bay and explored the Arctic. I did all of this with Michelin LTS M/S and I was in some really poor conditions that required my winch and locking rear end! The LTX allowed me to drive up to Alaska and back in comfort. The key to them was Load Range E. They're strong and have better side walls than stock but are not reinforced.

Now here is the rub - I can't find any E rated for 265/60/20! What I do now is drive into the boonies as far as I dare with my Michelins then off load my Commander 1000 XT and go the rest of the way with that. This system saves the paint on the sides of my Armada also.
 

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Quite the adventure you had there! I bet you'll never venture out again without the matching spare and your tools :) Glad you had assistance from the community there. You mentioned the first jack failed. Was that the hi-lift jack? How did it fail exactly? I have a hi-lift but haven't yet put it to use.
 

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wow this is super cool! my OCD prevents me from taking my car into situations like that but this is super cool. and wow all the love to help get you out!

looks like the youngsters had a good time as well.

nice photos mate~! cheers
 

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Thanks for the compliment.

Very interesting about your trip in Alaska. That is one trip I would love the opportunity to take. Though it may never happen, but if I ever haopen to have the time, I would love to do it. Got some pics of the trip to share?

I would love to see pics of your Commander.
 

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Quite the adventure you had there! I bet you'll never venture out again without the matching spare and your tools :) Glad you had assistance from the community there. You mentioned the first jack failed. Was that the hi-lift jack? How did it fail exactly? I have a hi-lift but haven't yet put it to use.
Thanks. It was quite an adventure.

I always see all these Jeeps on trails with so much rocover gear and wonder when they ever use them. But it takes only one mishap like mine to appreciate all the recovery gear that others are carrying.

If these guys did not show up and helped me, I could not have been able to change that tire with what Nissan provides.

I was so grateful for their help.

Hi-lift misharp...
They brought the hi-lift and inserted the support that lifts the car into my tow hitch. Then they started jacking up my Armada. Because that area was wet soft, the lift was digging into the ground and barely lifting the car. Then the lift got tilted as it was digging itself on the ground and all of a sudden the Armada dropped down and went forward. This is when I had not even taken off the flat tire.

The Armada needed to be on a flat and solid surface for it to work. Also, lol, one needed to put chucks infront of the front tires to prevent thme Armada from moving all the time we jacked it. To solve this, I had to step on the brakes a few times when it was being jacked.
 

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wow this is super cool! my OCD prevents me from taking my car into situations like that but this is super cool. and wow all the love to help get you out!

looks like the youngsters had a good time as well.

nice photos mate~! cheers
Lol, thanks.

Trust me, every time I meet people on the trails they are shocked when I tell them I am there to take my Armada on the trails. This time people kept on askin me if I had 4x4 on that thing. Which I said yup.

I spent $1,500 to $1,800 to get the lift I have right now. Most of that cost was paying twice for install and also for my lifetime alignment and cambolts. My lift was to enable me to do more challenging stuffs, so I am doing it and having a blast.

The honest truth about being on these tough trails is that all this is hurting my Armada for sure; battle scars such as pin stripping, dents, bursting my tire, messing up my alignment(but thank God for lifetime alignmenr) and generally putting more wear and tear on my Armada.

Lol, the good part is that I am having so much fun on these trails which is priceless. And last but not the least, I plan to buy another Armada, lol. Looking forward to the new body style.

I went and compared my 2009 Nissan Armada LE 4wd against a 2016 Infinitive QX56 4wd. My Armada is better when it comes to the room available inside. The driver has more room in the Armada, same as for the third row seat. The 3rd row in the QX is awful. Anybody who is 5'11 and taller would be miserable there on a long trip. Also, it is so hard to find a bench seat on the new QX56, but a lot easier to find that in the Armada.

If Nissan brings out a new Armada body style, I am sure I will buy one with 4wd and sell this my Armada. If Nissan does not release a new body style, I may be interested in a used QX because I do not have money to buy a brand new limited QX for $90,000. I will post pics of the sticker price maybe tonight after work.
 

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I bet you'll never venture out again without the matching spare and your tools :)/QUOTE]

You know it is funny how things happen when you forget to bring things you have always been taking off road with you.

I had just taken off all the vinyl off my Armada and all other things to clean it well. When I was leaving for this trip, I was 50/50 on if I will go off road or not. That is why I basically did nit take anything.

But what sucks now is I need about $300 for a new spare tire. Talk about an expensive hobby. But not really expensive compared to some other hobbies out there or some people who have some heavily modified vehicles.
 

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Talking about the 2016 Infiniti QX56, I went to the dealership about a week ago to admire the vehicle and compare it to my 2009. Yes, I went and compared my 2009 to the 2016 QX80. I must say though the Infiniti is superior, the most expensive Armada compared to the most expensive QX80 would make the Armada a great buy.

I admired this most expensive 2016 QX80 on the lot with a sticker price of $90,000. Compare that to the most expensive Armada with a sticker price of about $55,000. I think the Armada is really a great value for a difference of about $35,000 in cost. Granted the QX80 has a lot of bells and whistles, but I don't know if it is worth $35,000, especially when there are certain things that the Armada does better at like more room inside.
 

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Here are the pictures I took from the local Infiniti dealership. Great looking vehicle and I got to drive one, but this thing is truly expensive. So all I could do was enjoy test driving it because I cannot afford this. But it felt great driving it on the freeway.








And my 2 favorite colors in the parking lot...
 

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yeah i have a 2012 qx and i love it. i think the room inside is just as good as armada and perhaps even better. the 3rd row is for children only though! ;)

the captain's chairs are boss but you can remove the center island back there for easy access to the 3rd row. many cats do that who dont have the 60/40 split bench.

the qx is a beast and runs like a scalded dog. its aggressive and fun to drive. lots of bells and whistles. you can certainly get one for less than 90k!

but yeah i cant see my 12 being in swamplands and dirt trails.. i get antsy when i drive over a tiny puddle of water... :p
 
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