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Just filled my Armada tank for the second time (still running in), wow this thing drinks juice. First tankfull got me 13.5 mpg second fill up 10 mpg, is this normal? I have been driving it like a granny, not using more than 3000rpm and only light throttle most of the time, plus the odd 3/4 throttle burst. I would hate to find out what it does if I drove it like I had stolen it?

Good job petrol only costs a buck a gallon here.

One other thing, the suspension feels very soft. Hit a dip on the highway and it wallows about (front to back), feels like it is running on springs with no damping (very bouncy like an old Yank tank), does anyone else suffer this? The Yukon SLT auto ride I just sold was a far better handler and much better comfort (plus I averaged 18mpg)
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Tmation said:
Just filled my Armada tank for the second time (still running in), wow this thing drinks juice. First tankfull got me 13.5 mpg second fill up 10 mpg, is this normal? I have been driving it like a granny, not using more than 3000rpm and only light throttle most of the time, plus the odd 3/4 throttle burst. I would hate to find out what it does if I drove it like I had stolen it?

Good job petrol only costs a buck a gallon here.

One other thing, the suspension feels very soft. Hit a dip on the highway and it wallows about (front to back), feels like it is running on springs with no damping (very bouncy like an old Yank tank), does anyone else suffer this? The Yukon SLT auto ride I just sold was a far better handler and much better comfort (plus I averaged 18mpg)
If I drive it like I stole it, I average 11 mpg. This is with a 4x4 LE with big wheels and tires (heaviest and worst on gas). If I baby it on the highway, I can brake 16 at 70+/-mph.
I have no bouncy feeling to speak of. Have you checked your tire pressure? Changing my tires firmed up everything dramatically and would address both problems. ;)
5 years ago in NJ and FL. ;)
Gh0sT said:
My God. Is it possible for you to send a couple of barrels my way? Hell. I was born when 1.50$ was expensive.
:crikey:
I was born when it was 20 cents a gallon. :amazing:
Tmation said:
I have a 2005 LE 4X4, have been in a few now, SE and LE, and the ride is the same. I find it soft and squishy but am starting to get used to it now. I am English and had 20+ years of driving European cars until I bought the Yukon nearly 5 years ago.
It sounds like you were used to driving Minis, BMW, etc. Different class of vehicle.They don't have any full size SUV in Europe. They are too large. There are plenty of US cars that would exhibit the characteristics you are mentioning, but by definition, they can't be huge hocking SUVs like an Armada.
Tmation said:
It feels like the damping rates are all wrong. It wallows on dips and bumps but crashes and bangs on pot holes and speed bumps etc. The steering also seems to transmit to much when you touch lane markers (cats eyes) and ridges, but some of this maybe down to the tyres (tires).
This is because it is larger than anything else you have driven.
Tmation said:
I find most American made cars very soft in the handling department, its just at first the Armada seemed a backwards step ride and handling wise. The fit and finish is much better than the Yukon (but still not very good) but like all American made cars it seems built down to a price rather than up to a standard. I suppose its what your market demands and the price you pay for cheap vehicles.
The Yukon has a solid rear axel. They make up for it with soft springs, giving it a very vague feeling and poor handling. The Armada has independent rear suspension. Superior unless you are building a monster truck it will easily outhandle a Yukon.

BTW, it is a Japanese car, not American. It is assembled in the US, but then so is the BMW X5, Honda Accord, etc. It is still a better build than anything that has ever come out of England except maybe a Bentley. Jaguars broke on a regular basis. They even marketed a kit to put a Chevy 350 under the hood to replace the XJS motor. More power, more reliable, cheaper to maintain. Now they are more reliable because they are made on the Ford Taurus line with many common parts. Every Triumph rots and breaks. Same with MG. Minis were good, but havent' been made in forever. The new ones are BMWs. And now unless you spend a fortune getting the finiky top of the line Rover, they basically were low grade rattle boxes that had very little utility. Guess it took the Americans and Germans to help poor old England build a good car. ;)

And as was pointed out, the only almost full size SUV from Japan besides the Armada cost twice as much, and all you get is some cheap looking wood on the dash, lower tow rating, small underpowered motor, etc. :rolleyes:
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