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Changed the starter today. Lots of write ups and videos so I won’t go into that. The biggest issue that many run into are the starter bolts. I used my 1/2 inch flex head ratchet with a deep well socket. Made easy work and the handle contoured perfectly away from the firewall. With a cheater on it I was able to comfortably apply torque from the center of the engine compartment for both fasteners. Added a picture of the wrench and the orientation on the old starter in the vice. I also did not drain coolant from the throttle actuator and just removed the 4 bolts and moved it away. That gasket should be replaced as well as the intake gaskets. Both are marked replace in the ESM. I changed them all. Took me 3.5 hours taking my time. Hopefully it solved my one click and cycling the key a couple times. So far 2 for 2.
 

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Good job! I changed mine over a year ago and posted here. Yes those two starter bolts are the hardest and the flex rachet is a must. I did not have one and ended up using a sledge hammer. I did not remove the fuel line nor the booster line; you can lay the intake sideways so for me it really is not needed and saved me time & $
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Thanks for your write up. Yeah, I wanted to remove the intake to get it real clean. I also wanted it out of the engine bay while working. The fuel line was no sweat, I used one of my Lisle disconnects. For our trucks it is the 39210. Forgot how fast it turns over!
 
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Congrats on completing this PITA repair!

Parts I used:
Intake Manifold Gasket
Starter

Was a 3 hr. job and I spent most my time w/ my feet in the air while my security camera laughed at me the entire time. The next day my mid section was quite bruised from this LOL. I sure wish the starter would have gone out before I lifted it! Made sure to take the time to clean out the intake manifold and throttle body as it was a little nasty. Fuel disconnect was very time consuming as my disconnect tool didn't want to slip in on both sides of the connector, every time I got one side in, the other popped out. Finally I got it, but dang had to fight it for a while.

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Starter looks identical to the OEM reman I went with. Lot of guys leave the fuel connected but I personally liked having the intake out of the way. Also much easier to inspect and clean. The Lisle 39210 work’s excellent. I purchased a kit with a variety of them years ago. They are nice machined aluminum and will last a lifetime. Yeah, my mid section was sore for a couple days after being sprawled across my engine bay. Your lift definitely added to the challenge I’m sure. Nice job!
 

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Congrats on completing this PITA repair!

Parts I used:
Intake Manifold Gasket
Starter

Was a 3 hr. job and I spent most my time w/ my feet in the air while my security camera laughed at me the entire time. The next day my mid section was quite bruised from this LOL. I sure wish the starter would have gone out before I lifted it! Made sure to take the time to clean out the intake manifold and throttle body as it was a little nasty. Fuel disconnect was very time consuming as my disconnect tool didn't want to slip in on both sides of the connector, every time I got one side in, the other popped out. Finally I got it, but dang had to fight it for a while.

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Im on my fourth Armada/QX56, all have been 2004-2006 models, and last month I did my fourth starter - one on each of them! I don’t rush the job, and I’m down to 4 hours. I bought a cheap plastic fuel line remover set for $10, thinking to myself this will never work at the time - but that cheap tool still works, quick and slick. I also like the manifold out of the way. I have removed the TB on some with 10mm bolts simply plugging the water lines, and left it in place on others - it’s a 50/50 draw - 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Makesno real difference I guess is what I’m saying here. I live in an area that sees a bit of salt. It my current truck came from Montana, where I presume there is lots of salt on the roads. The toughest part of the starter change last month was getting the starter out of the hole! Removing the old one required a large rubber mallet to knock it down and a large pry bar to bring it back up - back and forth a number of times before its machined register would let that starter go! I did clean it up and reinstalled with anti sieze befor assembly.
Another surprise awaited me in the valley. 3 of the four starters had a mouse/squirrel home under the intake, but this one was the only one with damage to the wiring harness at both knock sensors. The 18” piece of sub harness was close to $300 here at the dealer. But a close inspection of the plug looked suspiciously close to an old L-Jetronic FI plug, and I was totally right. Even better is that this plug is a standard Pico PN 5621-BP and cost me a whole $11 each to replace. You US folks probably pay half that. Anyways, with some crimp conectors and some shrink tubing, I felt I did a proper repair, and I put it all back together, and replaced the rather aging serpentine belt while I was under the hood and had a few things out of the way.
not a bad job, certainly easier than valve cover gaskets - that job sucks. But GotGrit, I empathize with your sore gut after leaning over that rad support to do the job. Mine hurt for every one of these jobs too!

But thank his for this forum. Over the years, all of you contributors have kept my Armada/QX56’s on the road reliably and keeping them cost effective. For any of you that have posted useful tech information here, and the the site mods for babysitting, we have a great community.

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