Alright, Let me try this. I am SOOOO lost. I have an '04 Mada with factory Nav & DVD. I'm trying to find the VTR OUT + & VTR OUT - wires so I can tap into them to run up to my Nav screen. But I have searched & Searched & can't for the life of me find & figure out which two wires I need to tap. I have pulled the factory DVD player out & in the center console, there are two different plugs - A blue one & a grey one. Can anyone out there help me figur out which wires I need to tap to get the VTR feeds? Please help. I have this whole project torn apart, and I thought it would be easier to figure out than it has been thus far. I have been taking pictures all along, and when I'm done, I will post a real nice tutorial for others. But please - someone help me figure out which wires to tap. Thanks in advance.