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I am looking for an Exhaust system and there seems to be a big difference on the price from one exhaust to another. Why? is there a big difference in what you get? I know if you get Stainless it will cost more.
 

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Absolutely! I'm by no meens an expert but like anything else in live you get what you pay for. Some systems are better engineered and tested to poduce higher performance than others. Some are produced from Stainless Steel to last longer than other etc,ect..
Just like bying shoes - you can buy at Wal-mart (genuine man maid leather -cheap) or you can buy at Nieman Marcus (honest to god hand tooled leather) for high comfort, good looks and will outlast the most other shoes.
In my opinion its a matter of what you are after, performance, ecconomy, quality, looks, or just a lot of noise.
I hope this helps for now.:D
 

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I had the Banks on my Titan, and now have the Borla on my Armada.

I much prefer the Borla at double the cost.
 

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Why do you prefer the Borla over the Banks?

Is it because it produces more HP, you like the sound better, the fit and finish? Just wondering what would make one exhaust worth double another one? Same amount of material (maybe different quality) I don't think I can justify to the wife spending $700 plus for an Exhaust when I can get some for $400 and less that many people seem happy with....

If it is the look, how often do people get under your vehicle and check out the looks of your exhaust?
 

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Hello,

There are 2 main contributors to the cost variation between 1 exhaust from another

1. Material (aluminized--cheapest/T-409 Stainless--lower grade stainless, but better than aluminized/T-304 Stainless--best you'll find from an exhaust and much more expensive than the other 2)

2. Brand Name: Just like any other product you are going to pay for the name. Perfect example is Corsa--T-409 stainless, but the majority of their mark-up comes from the "Corsa" name.

If interested, we have just about every exhaust to choose from for the Armada.

Thanks in advance,

John
 

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In simple terms:

The main difference in cost is the material they are made from. Aluminized is cheaper than stainless. A good example is Gibson. The aluminized is $300s, the stainless $500s. They would perform equally, but the stainless will look nicer.

Most of the brands out there make Horsepower, but at the cost of low end torque. This means you will have better acceleration in mid to high RPMs, but less at low RPMs. Overall, slightly better than stock, which is typical for a V8.

In contrast, exhaust systems on some vehicles, like basically any 4 cylinder import, actually take power away. They loose torque over more of the torqueband than they gain power, so even though the HP numbers may read higher, they are slower accelerating. (And to me these "fart pipes" sound like chainsaws or RC planes, not sports cars)

The main differences between brands is the sound and looks. People prefer one sound or look over another. Power changes are so close that you will not notice any difference between one or another at the track or with the butt dyno.

Most of the exhausts come with similar price tags if they are made from the same material. Flowmaster is a little cheaper, but has a little cheaper manufacture look with seams on the mufflers, etc.

Other ones to look at:
Gibson
Borla
Corsa
Banks
Stillen
Magnaflow
B&B

All will give you similar power increases(within a couple HP) but all sound and look different, and have different prices. If possible, locate an armada or QX with a system you are interested in and listen to the system inside and out. This is the best way to see if its for you as the sound is the largest difference between them and the thing you will love or hate about the exhaust. ;)
 

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92TripleBlack said:
In simple terms:

.... (And to me these "fart pipes" sound like chainsaws or RC planes, not sports cars)
And they look dorky too.
Can you imagine an Armada with those coffee cans, I'd be rolling.

Question is, are there any pipes that will free up a little bit of HP and Torque at the same time? Or some HP but not at the expense of ft lbs?
 
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