[PetitFrereArmada]

Show me the specs and if they line up right I might give it a shot. I'll probably not use a K&N though. I've been running a filter on my 5.9 Cummins that is from a generator application for probably 8 years. Zero issues.

I received my 0W20 oil today. And then I went on Amazon and ordered this HP-4001 filter with 2 days free delivery since I am prime. The filter is usually about $13 to $16. It is now on sale on amazon for $10.08 shipped. That is with tax already included.

The filter will really be huge compared to stock. Nobody carries it locally.

You can go to K&N website and look at the specs. It is the same. Well, only this one member here is the one who has attempted it and it seems to working just fine. I am next. I will put the filter on my QX. I wonder if the dealership will refuse to put it on for me though since I pay them $10 to do my oil change. I always bring my oil and filter and pay them only $10 for them to do the work.

I have the specs. Let me share them from their website. You can also go and check.

HP-1010: Correct filter for our QX/Armada.

HP-4001: Not recommended anywhere for our cars. It is for a Porsche. And old Porsche, not even the new ones.

Well, all the specs of the HP-4001 are the same with the HP-1010. The HP-4001 just gives you a chance to put a little more oil in your car since the filter holds more oil than the correct OEM filter.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

These are the specs from their website for both filters. I will install the big filter on my QX and hope there will be no leaks. We shall see. I am not the first to try it. I hope the OP who tried it has the chance to stop by and update us on how it has been doing for the past 5 months.

Till then, I will get my filter this week and will decide when I will go do my oil change. I do not need an oil change right now since it is not even close to being due for one, but I just want to do an oil change. I have put only 1,200 miles on my QX for the last 5 months since my last oil change. I checked the oil this night and the oil looks and smells new. But I will be doing an oil change soon.

Here are the specs for both filters. These specs I got them from the K&N website. It is a screenshot from my phone of their website with all specs of both filters. Anybody can get on their website and look it up.

 

[Highbrow Hillbilly w/HBMC]

I'd want to know what 'high flow premium media' is supposed to convey? Filtration is about removing contaminants, not high flow. Unless required for a specific application. I suspect there is nothing really special about this K&N filter besides the nut they weld to the bottom >

This thread has got me wondering now. I called Baldwin and got some specs on their filter that crosses with the Nissan O.E.M. Didn't seem all that impressive to me. I think I'll contact Mobil 1 as well to see if they'll tell me the specs on this M1-110A filter.

The Baldwins I asked about were a B1402 and a B1431. Both were 23 microns at 50% nominal and 45 microns at 98.7% absolute.

Kinda wish everybody would just put their cards on the table and not make us have to dig for information like this. I'd rather see what it's made of and view the basic specs than have the perfect packaging and misleading advertising jargon.

I'm also sure even the cheapest and junkiest of filters would probably be adequate for most. I just want the good stuff! Or I at least want to know what the good stuff is, so I can see if I can afford it

 

[crazy4trains]

I received my 0W20 oil today. And then I went on Amazon and ordered this HP-4001 filter with 2 days free delivery since I am prime. The filter is usually about $13 to $16. It is now on sale on amazon for $10.08 shipped. That is with tax already included.

The filter will really be huge compared to stock. Nobody carries it locally.

You can go to K&N website and look at the specs. It is the same. Well, only this one member here is the one who has attempted it and it seems to working just fine. I am next. I will put the filter on my QX. I wonder if the dealership will refuse to put it on for me though since I pay them $10 to do my oil change. I always bring my oil and filter and pay them only $10 for them to do the work.

I have the specs. Let me share them from their website. You can also go and check.

HP-1010: Correct filter for our QX/Armada.

HP-4001: Not recommended anywhere for our cars. It is for a Porsche. And old Porsche, not even the new ones.

Well, all the specs of the HP-4001 are the same with the HP-1010. The HP-4001 just gives you a chance to put a little more oil in your car since the filter holds more oil than the correct OEM filter.

Interesting that you are going with a 20 weight oil. What is your justification for doing so?

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

Interesting that you are going with a 20 weight oil. What is your justification for doing so?

My short and simple answer is that Nissan recommends it and says it is ok.

If you say no, then I say well Nissan recommends it for the 2016 that people can use 0w20 or 5w30. My engine is exactly like the 2016. Hence, I decided this time to use 0w20. Next time I can use something else if I want to, but 0w20 it is this time with that humongous K&N filter.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

Interesting that you are going with a 20 weight oil. What is your justification for doing so?

This is it from the 2016 QX80 manual

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

I'd want to know what 'high flow premium media' is supposed to convey? Filtration is about removing contaminants, not high flow. Unless required for a specific application. I suspect there is nothing really special about this K&N filter besides the nut they weld to the bottom >

This thread has got me wondering now. I called Baldwin and got some specs on their filter that crosses with the Nissan O.E.M. Didn't seem all that impressive to me. I think I'll contact Mobil 1 as well to see if they'll tell me the specs on this M1-110A filter.

The Baldwins I asked about were a B1402 and a B1431. Both were 23 microns at 50% nominal and 45 microns at 98.7% absolute.

Kinda wish everybody would just put their cards on the table and not make us have to dig for information like this. I'd rather see what it's made of and view the basic specs than have the perfect packaging and misleading advertising jargon.

I'm also sure even the cheapest and junkiest of filters would probably be adequate for most. I just want the good stuff! Or I at least want to know what the good stuff is, so I can see if I can afford it

You know all these companies selling filters and oil will come up with all kinds of fancy words to describe their products which can be misleading. That is advertisement and that is what they do and sometimes they offer some of their own personal tests and reviews in caparism to other products in which theirs always come out the best.

As for the specs of the filters, they disclose only so much. When you call to find out more info, you will be surprised you will get the run around. Or they will flat out refuse. All those fancy words, they cannot explain further than what you read. That is why I guess you may not get a very definite answer to the exact questions you have. But if you happen to find out something new, would be nice of you to have with us here in the forum.

If oil filters can be classified in 3 categories of Economy, Regular, and Premium, you know Mobil 1 and K&N will both be in the premium class. The others can fall in any of the 3 classes.

This is all based on real life reviews from all car forums and from a well respected website like bobistheoilguy. If you have never been there you should go there and you will learn some things for sure.

When it comes to oil and filters, if anybody would just follow what the manufacturer recommends, one's car should not have oil problems. That is change your oil with conventional 5w30 with a regular or Nissan filter after every 3,750 miles. Truly, anybody who does that will have a clean engine. Nobody can dispute that will not give someone a good and clean engine with tons of miles on odometer.

But as you know in car forums, people wan to challenge manufacturers and do what they think or feel is best for them. Like here for example. This member is using a large filter. Nissan will not encourage that at all. But it is his car and he can do what he wants to it even if he ruins it. But we should know that nobody wants to ruin their car, so people do what they think is good for their cars. Like you are using 0w20, but Nissan recommended 5w30 for your car and mine. Me too I have used 0w40 and will use 0w20 and a large filter now. That is not what Nissan would want or encourage or recommend. But I take good care of my cars and I want to be experimental with the filter. As for the 0w20 oil, I know that will be just fine for the car, same as you knew it would be fine for your car.

Are you also interested in experimenting with this large filter? I am doing it and will see how it turns out.

Do you run your oil for 5,000 or 10,000 miles? I used to run mine for 10,000 miles, but I think I will stick with 5,000 miles oil change on my QX now.

I see you used Mobil 1 high mileage full synthetic. That is one of those oils that will be considered premium. Same as their filter. So, that is why you use it. But I am very sure a Fram Ultra filter and a Pennzoil full sybthetic oil ran for 3,750 miles or even 5,000 miles will offer the same protection as that premium Mobil 1. That is why these things are just personal preferences. I believe they all work the same if we do frequent oil changes not extended oil changes.

 

[Highbrow Hillbilly w/HBMC]

Do you run your oil for 5,000 or 10,000 miles? I used to run mine for 10,000 miles, but I think I will stick with 5,000 miles oil change on my QX now.

I think we were doing 5000 mile intervals with synthetic oil. I was going to run this 0w-20 year round and just change the oil and filter once every summer. It will probably end up being somewhere around a 10-15k mile oil change interval range.

But all this oil talk is making me wonder why I don't just run the same synthetic 5w-40 as I do in my Cummins? Might give that a shot when I run out of the 0w-20. Especially if I end up towing more with the QX.

I like pretending to be an oil :nerd:

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

I think we were doing 5000 mile intervals with synthetic oil. I was going to run this 0w-20 year round and just change the oil and filter once every summer. It will probably end up being somewhere around a 10-15k mile oil change interval range.

But all this oil talk is making me wonder why I don't just run the same synthetic 5w-40 as I do in my Cummins? Might give that a shot when I run out of the 0w-20. Especially if I end up towing more with the QX.

I like pretending to be an oil :nerd:

If you want to run that 0w20 for a year for 10-15k miles, make sure to check your oil level every now and then because I am sure you will burn oil since that is a thin oil. How many miles do you have on your odometer?

Based on the picture from the QX service manual, you can use 5w40 and that is very ok per Nissan. I have never thought of using that oil. What I have been thinking of using someday since my miles are high up there is 10w30.

Will you be interested in also experimenting with the larger filter? Well, if you are, I will keep you informed how it works out for me. If my QX is totaled from oil loss or something. But I know nothing will happen. I sure will update my maintenance thread with the info whenever I do my oil change.

Since you wish to do an extended oil run, maybe you can too experiment with the larger filter. It should help with a long oil change interval since you will have a bit more oil in the engine.

 

[Highbrow Hillbilly w/HBMC]

If you want to run that 0w20 for a year for 10-15k miles, make sure to check your oil level every now and then because I am sure you will burn oil since that is a thin oil. How many miles do you have on your odometer? IIRC just under 150,000.

Based on the picture from the QX service manual, you can use 5w40 and that is very ok per Nissan. I have never thought of using that oil. What I have been thinking of using someday since my miles are high up there is 10w30.

Will you be interested in also experimenting with the larger filter? Well, if you are, I will keep you informed how it works out for me. If my QX is totaled from oil loss or something. But I know nothing will happen. I sure will update my maintenance thread with the info whenever I do my oil change.

Since you wish to do an extended oil run, maybe you can too experiment with the larger filter. It should help with a long oil change interval since you will have a bit more oil in the engine.

I'm not sure if I'll use that particular filter, but I may well experiment with something that is larger and has some good looking filtration numbers.

I do think 0w-40 or 5w-40 will be my future go to. I really like the thought of using the same oil in both of our rigs. I already have been buying the 5w-40 Mobil Delvac 1 ESP Synthetic by the 5 gallon bucket lol. I'm not sure I'm going to find many or any oils that are going to be recommended for both vehicles. Looks like that might be a tall order.

I need to do some research.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

I finally got my large filter. Now just need a day to decide when to go get my oil change. Keeping fingers crossed that dealership does not refuse to install this filter for me. Because of that, I plan to buy the real filter and just have it with me. Just in case they refuse to install this, I will have the real oem filter for it.

I also bought 2 PCV valves to change the ones on my QX. I cannot do it myself so need to find someone to do it and I pay for it.

 

[Highbrow Hillbilly w/HBMC]

Just did an oil change. Used a Donaldson P552849.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

Just did an oil change. Used a Donaldson P552849.

Nice! Did you do your own oil change or the dealership did it for you? What grade oil did you use? Still 0w20? How long do you plan to run this before your next oil change?

My own large filter is still going great. No leaks or loss of engine yet. So, it is working. I have put about 2,800 miles on the large filter and my first use of 0W20 so far. May use it till 5,00 miles or may change it before then. I will see.

 

[Highbrow Hillbilly w/HBMC]

Nice! Did you do your own oil change or the dealership did it for you? What grade oil did you use? Still 0w20? How long do you plan to run this before your next oil change?

My own large filter is still going great. No leaks or loss of engine yet. So, it is working. I have put about 2,800 miles on the large filter and my first use of 0W20 so far. May use it till 5,00 miles or may change it before then. I will see.

I changed it myself. I used a mish mash of different Mobil 1 synthetics. I found a couple quarts in my garage that were left over from vehicles past.

1qt - 0W-40 Euro
1qt - 5w-30 don't recall the specific flavor
2qt - 0w-20 Extended Performance High Mileage
3.5qt - 5w-40 Delvac 1 ESP

IIRC still have 5 quarts of the 0w-20 EPHM. I'll mix 2.5qts of that in on the next 2 oil changes on the QX and then I'll just stick with the 5w-40 from there on out. The 0w-20 seemed to noticeably tick a bit more on cold startups, say anything near freezing or below.

Getting into the 0w-20, after doing more reading it doesn't seem like it is a worthwhile oil to switch to. If I need a 0w anything I'd rather just go to a 0w-40. I just got a little hung up with the fact that they were running this in the new rigs with the same engine. I think this stuff is going to ultimately cause more wear for people over time. Especially in larger than average size SUV's which might see a little more heavy use in regards to towing and whatnot. Not that the 0w-20 is a horrible option I just don't think it's going to be a positive thing in the aggregate. IMO all it was, was a means for reaching mileage goals for manufacturers. They don't care if it knocks a portion of the engines life off.

I'm just going to stick with 5,000 mile OCI's. Running a UOA just doesn't pencil out for me. I ran a bunch of numbers and I'd be possibly saving a little money keeping the oil in there longer, but unless I pay for a more spendy oil analysis, that includes fuel dilution, I'm just kinda rolling the dice. And if you pay the extra for the fuel dilution number then you might as well just change the oil, as it is about a wash monetarily.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

I changed it myself. I used a mish mash of different Mobil 1 synthetics.

This is perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with that at all. These cars can take a variety of oil and still work fine. I was thinking about mixing things too, but just wonder how confused the people at the dealership will be when I give them different oils to mix. IO take my oil to the dealership and pay them exactly $9.90 out the door.

Getting into the 0w-20, after doing more reading it doesn't seem like it is a worthwhile oil to switch to. I think this stuff is going to ultimately cause more wear for people over time. Especially in larger than average size SUV's.

Yup! I think that 0W20 is best for brand new engines that can truly see the benefit of it. And I have read a lot that thin oil increases more wear and tear on the engine. I mean it is something that would take years to notice though. I am also thinking I may not use 0w20, especially in my own QX since it is older and has 135,450 miles on odometer. So, 0w20 is not the best oil to use. 5w30 or 10w30. Sounds like more possible choices for me since I have used 0w40 in my Maxima and did not like it. But my Maxima now has 248,500 miles and I am the first and only owner and I am hoping to still keep that car until atleast 300,000 miles on odometer. Though the car is not perfect now, I just took it on a 800 miles round trip to Mexico last weekend and it performed great.

I'm just going to stick with 5,000 mile OCI's.

Definitely a great interval. One does not really need a UOS if doing only 5,000 miles oil changes, even if it was dino oil. I frequent bobistheoilguy.com and those guys some times post deals they see and people rush to walmart, AAP, autozone or order on Amazon and get good brand oils for cheap! I am talking about things like buying the full synthetic annual mobil 1 oil that costs $39.99 for the 5 gallons, they get it on sale for like $15 or some times for like $5 after rebates! I got a recent deal that was half price and I have it just sitting at home. I will stock up too if I find other deals. These guys post the deals and the deals may vary from state to state, but when they find one that makes the price of the oil like over 80% cheaper, those guys buy it ALL from wherever they see the deal. If I get some, I will stock up and just be changing my oil like every 3,000 miles because I will have a stock.

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

The day I installed my Yokohama tires, I found out it would rub at full turn. I got upset and went home and ordered another set of offroad tires that should fit without any worries. I ordered the Radar Renegade R/T+ 285/50R22.

I was going to return the Yokohama tires and install the Radar, but I did a bit of modification. I zip tied the wheel well inner liner and now the Yokohama does not scrub. Since I really like the Yokohama tires, I will have to return these radar tires. Glad to know from seller that they pay for returns.

So within the last 4 weeks, I have ordered 3 sets of brand new tires.