Hello everyone. I've gone from being excited about and loving my Armada to absolutely regretting my purchase. Most of this is due to what I fear may be a bad transmission that needs fixed... but I'm not 100% certain yet. If any of you could share similar issues you've had - and what you did to fix them - it would be very much appreciated.
I'll try to keep this as short as possible:
Purchased a used 2017 Armada Platinum with 97,000 miles in early November. I was a little anxious about the mileage, but it had a clean 1-owner carfax and appeared to be very well maintained, so I figured if it didn't give me any major problems for a few years, it'd be a bargain for the price.
Leap forward a few weeks and my wife and I realize that both of us have been noticing weird transmission behavior when driving the car. I'm not sure I'd describe it as "slipping" so much as hesitant and erratic shifting (or maybe I'm an idiot and that's exactly what slipping is). This sometimes happens at low speeds (but maybe it just feels sluggish because it's such a large vehicle?), but especially happens in the 45-55mph range. One time it was so bad that I had to press the pedal almost literally the entire way to the floor just to get the car past 45mph. We've noticed that if you do a smooth, uninterrupted acceleration, there are typically no issues. The issues start to pop up whenever you start easing your foot off the gas to coast - that's when the shifting begins to feel a bit confused, with the RPM needle sometimes even jumps up and down as if the transmission can't decide whether it wants to shift or not. My wife claims her old V6 Altima did this "all the time" and that she thinks it's normal for Nissans, but I am 99% certain it is not (especially considering it's not a CVT).
So here's where it gets interesting... I take it to a local mechanic (I hate the Nissan dealership I got it from... "then why on earth did you buy from them," yes, yes, I know...) and he informs me that my Armada has brand new transmission fluid in it... wonderful! So somebody (either the dealership or the previous owner) obviously noticed transmission issues... so the question is did they change the fluid to try and fix it, or as a coverup? I begin searching the internet for answers, and discover a TSB that describes almost EXACTLY the issues we've been having. I forward it to the mechanic, who reflashes the electronics as the TSB prescribes. For the first couple days, the transmission feels a lot better... but then from day 3 onward it starts acting up the same away again. Crap. (EDIT: I just read a post in another thread that said "They did have a reflash but only works after 1500 to 2000 miles." Does this mean the reflash doesn't rectify the issue for 1500 to 2000 miles? Am I reading that right?)
So that leaves me where I'm at now... the mechanic tells me there are one of two remaining scenarios: Either there's a part (I forget the name) that needs replaced so that the fluid can flow freely to help with the torque converter/shifting - OR - the transmission is bad and needs replaced. Likely $6,000-$7,000.
According to this same mechanic, my state (PA) apparently has a mandate where you can return vehicles within 90 days for a refund, even if not under warranty. Assuming this is true, I'm considering just returning the vehicle if it turns out the transmission needs replaced... I get it, it's a high mileage car, but this dealership is a huge local chain that pretends to have an esteemed reputation, and their "Five-million point check" or whatever the hell it is ABSOLUTELY should have sensed if the freaking transmission was toast, right!?!? Or am I crazy?
With all that said... have any of you had a similar issue? What was the diagnosis? Were you able to salvage your transmission? I'm getting desperate here... transmission aside, my wife and kids love this car, and I really want to avoid the headache of having to go out and buy another vehicle (assuming I can return this one). My strong preference would be to keep this Armada. I just read an older 8 page thread on this, and it seems that even with the TSB fixes that many people still have the issue... and I even saw a couple newer posts with people saying they needed a new trans, ugh. Thoughts, suggestions?
I'll try to keep this as short as possible:
Purchased a used 2017 Armada Platinum with 97,000 miles in early November. I was a little anxious about the mileage, but it had a clean 1-owner carfax and appeared to be very well maintained, so I figured if it didn't give me any major problems for a few years, it'd be a bargain for the price.
Leap forward a few weeks and my wife and I realize that both of us have been noticing weird transmission behavior when driving the car. I'm not sure I'd describe it as "slipping" so much as hesitant and erratic shifting (or maybe I'm an idiot and that's exactly what slipping is). This sometimes happens at low speeds (but maybe it just feels sluggish because it's such a large vehicle?), but especially happens in the 45-55mph range. One time it was so bad that I had to press the pedal almost literally the entire way to the floor just to get the car past 45mph. We've noticed that if you do a smooth, uninterrupted acceleration, there are typically no issues. The issues start to pop up whenever you start easing your foot off the gas to coast - that's when the shifting begins to feel a bit confused, with the RPM needle sometimes even jumps up and down as if the transmission can't decide whether it wants to shift or not. My wife claims her old V6 Altima did this "all the time" and that she thinks it's normal for Nissans, but I am 99% certain it is not (especially considering it's not a CVT).
So here's where it gets interesting... I take it to a local mechanic (I hate the Nissan dealership I got it from... "then why on earth did you buy from them," yes, yes, I know...) and he informs me that my Armada has brand new transmission fluid in it... wonderful! So somebody (either the dealership or the previous owner) obviously noticed transmission issues... so the question is did they change the fluid to try and fix it, or as a coverup? I begin searching the internet for answers, and discover a TSB that describes almost EXACTLY the issues we've been having. I forward it to the mechanic, who reflashes the electronics as the TSB prescribes. For the first couple days, the transmission feels a lot better... but then from day 3 onward it starts acting up the same away again. Crap. (EDIT: I just read a post in another thread that said "They did have a reflash but only works after 1500 to 2000 miles." Does this mean the reflash doesn't rectify the issue for 1500 to 2000 miles? Am I reading that right?)
So that leaves me where I'm at now... the mechanic tells me there are one of two remaining scenarios: Either there's a part (I forget the name) that needs replaced so that the fluid can flow freely to help with the torque converter/shifting - OR - the transmission is bad and needs replaced. Likely $6,000-$7,000.
According to this same mechanic, my state (PA) apparently has a mandate where you can return vehicles within 90 days for a refund, even if not under warranty. Assuming this is true, I'm considering just returning the vehicle if it turns out the transmission needs replaced... I get it, it's a high mileage car, but this dealership is a huge local chain that pretends to have an esteemed reputation, and their "Five-million point check" or whatever the hell it is ABSOLUTELY should have sensed if the freaking transmission was toast, right!?!? Or am I crazy?
With all that said... have any of you had a similar issue? What was the diagnosis? Were you able to salvage your transmission? I'm getting desperate here... transmission aside, my wife and kids love this car, and I really want to avoid the headache of having to go out and buy another vehicle (assuming I can return this one). My strong preference would be to keep this Armada. I just read an older 8 page thread on this, and it seems that even with the TSB fixes that many people still have the issue... and I even saw a couple newer posts with people saying they needed a new trans, ugh. Thoughts, suggestions?