What makes you think the K&N is a "better" filter? Did you compare specs etc.?

 

Yeah I checked. The specs are crap for both filters--some mumbo jumbo about catching 99% of something unspecified. The Mobil 1 says it catches 99% of particles down to 30 microns (a pretty useless spec, IMO) and the K&N says it might catch a particle that is 15 microns which is probably about the same performance, but who knows. I wonder why they didn't say it might catch a 1 micron particle? It might.

I run full synthetic for 10K miles so I need a good filter, but I'm reconsidering going back to cheap oil and cheap filters and doing 3000 mile changes. Lately I've been convinced that most wear is cause by pulverized metal in the 1-2 micron range that freely passes through any type of conventional oil filter.

From a common sense POV, it seems obvious that oil goes in clear and comes out black so its full of small particle contaminants. I'm kicking myself that I didn't install a toilet paper oil filter on day one. They seem to actually keep your oil cleaner than when it was in the new bottle, up to 100K miles or so, and why wouldn't you change the TP roll on shorter intervals anyway?

It seems the faster an engine wears out, the faster they sell you a new car. For now, I just want more filter area than a Honda Civic. My next car get a piggy back TP filter right after it comes home.

 

Nice find. I like that.

That filter is for a Porche and not at all recommended for our Armadas, but you say it works for you. That gets my attention because I like larger capacity filters.

So do you have any leaks? I would like a long term update. If you use if for 5,000 miles with no leaks and no problems, please report back so I can buy the same filter and use on my QX. I will look if Mobil 1 makes similar filter for same Porche. If they do, then theoretically, it should also fit our cars. Do you happen to know the mobil 1 equivalent of same filter?

I would like to know more. How many miles have you had the filter on so far? Did you put more than normal quart of oil when you did your oil change?

Also, I also like frequent oil changes. I used to stick to 10,000 miles oil change, but now I wish to be doing 5,000 miles oil changes. It does not hurt to always have fresher fluids. It is actually nice. But not a problem too for people who do long oil change intervals. One should do what makes them comfortable as usual.

 

Nice find. I like that.

That filter is for a Porche and not at all recommended for our Armadas, but you say it works for you. That gets my attention because I like larger capacity filters.

So do you have any leaks? I would like a long term update. If you use if for 5,000 miles with no leaks and no problems, please report back so I can buy the same filter and use on my QX. I will look if Mobil 1 makes similar filter for same Porche. If they do, then theoretically, it should also fit our cars.

The only spec incompatibility I found with the K&N (for Porsche) is the bypass valve pressure as listed on one site. The consensus specs match across the board--except outer dimensions, obviously. Most websites listed the bypass pressure the same as the Armada's stock filter spec, one exception the listed bypass pressure 60% higher. I checked and Porsche runs about the same oil pressure that we do, 50-80 psi range, so it's probably in error. The larger filter would be much less likely to clog anyway.

I discovered after days of comparing filter model specs between websites that the quality control of oil filter information is atrocious - I didn't find a single site without consistent major errors.

Do you happen to know the mobil 1 equivalent of same filter?

According to Mobil 1, they don't make one. But they don't specifically list an Armada, either (see their M1-110 info, linked below). They don't even offer a web-based compatibility tool , just a bunch of makes and years, mixed with seemingly random part numbers. Their website is a mess:

https://mobiloil.com/en/oil-filters/performance-oil-filters

I searched for the word Porsche with no hits--I'm sure of one thing: they have no idea if they make a 968 filter.

Here is what Autozone says:

https://www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-filter/porsche/968

Here's what Purolator's filter finder does:

http://www.pureoil.com/index.php

Purolator does make a filter for the Porsche, according to Advance Auto Parts. But AAP's website is broken too, and won't tell you the filter model number.

It's all broken. Total Chaos.

I would like to know more. How many miles have you had the filter on so far? Did you put more than normal quart of oil when you did your oil change?

About 50, I literally did it yesterday. Bone dry so far. Yes I added oil to the filter and topped the truck off. The Porsche filter's outer dimensions would hold 40% more oil, but I didn't measure how much i put in.

Also, I also like frequent oil changes. I used to stick to 10,000 miles oil change, but now I wish to be doing 5,000 miles oil changes. It does not hurt to always have fresher fluids. It is actually nice. But not a problem too for people who do long oil change intervals. One should do what makes them comfortable as usual.

I agree, it seems the only viable "filter" for loads of soot and pulverized metal is physical oil removal, or a Franz toilet paper-style piggyback filter. Amsoil makes one now, too.

I also ordered eight, 33 pound rare earth magnet bars to attach around the filter casing. But after a week of incremental shipping delays, today Amazon told me they never mailed anything. Chaos everywhere.

Through yesterday, I used Red Line synthetic at about $10/quart bought in 12 qt packs. So $60 per 10K miles. Lately, I'm convinced using any clean cheap oil at $10 fill, changed every 2-3K miles would be would've been better to prevent engine wear. Fortunately the truck still seems to be running strong @ 206K miles. I might piggy back a Frantz on the Armada anyway, since they are movable between vehicles.

 

Another thing to look at is bypass opening pressure. Nissan starts bypassing at about 17psi, so the oem filters, only filter at idle, with hot oil. No filtration to speak of with cold oil, and no filtration to speak of above 1200 rpm! All dependent on the bypass valve opening point, flow rate, and how it maintains consistency with age. If you're only gonna filter a piddlin amount, surface area within the filter matters. I'll be gettin a K&N tomorrow to try. Nice catch!

 

It's worth picking up a 1" socket so you can use a torque wrench to install it correctly. It's too close to the oil drip catch--about a quarter inch of clearance--to get a conventional oil filter wrench around it. It's got the torque printed on the box, 25 ft/lbs if I remember right.

 

SC - any update on this?

I have a new oil leak that seems to be originating at the oil filter seal. The drop catch is persistently wet following an oil change at a quick change shop.

If I need to replace the filter or at least have it removed and inspected, I might just replace with the K&N..

Thx

 

If I recall correctly there is a known issue with leakage behind the oil filter o-ring sealing surface. I'm not sure of the recommended repair but I think either a google or youtube search will yield several repair procedures. Again, if I recall correctly it's not a difficult fix.

 

Thx crazy!! I'll look..

 

Good find

I just changed my oil 2 days ago, damn, I'll get it next time.

 

Crazy, is this what you were thinking of?

Anyone experience this issue?

thx

 

Yes that is the issue I was discussing.

I have not (yet) experience that issue.

 

It's a known issue. Yes it's an easy fix. You can even be cheap and use the o ring from a filter. I bought mine at the dealership. A few bucks and an hr including the changing of the oil.

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Stopping by to ask you how is this filter doing in your Armada? Can you share some updates?

Its been 8 months now since you installed it. How many miles have you put on the filter? Any leaks? Have you changed it yet? After 10,000 miles?

I am about to do an oil change on my QX and I am wanting to be experimental. I don't really need an oil change as it is not time yet, but I just want to do an oil change. I will be using 0W20 instead of 5W30. Then I want to use a larger filter, not oem. So, I have been researching and have seen 2 or 3 options now that are slightly larger than oem and will fit. But I am more interested in the one you are using. I like that with a larger filter, one will have more oil in the car. I plan to run the oil for 5,000 miles only. I will not do 10,000 miles oil change on this truck again.

I would love an update on this filter. Hopefully you get a notification about this thread and hope you have some time to stop by and give an update.

I will go ahead and send you a PM also.

 

Show me the specs and if they line up right I might give it a shot. I'll probably not use a K&N though. I've been running a filter on my 5.9 Cummins that is from a generator application for probably 8 years. Zero issues.

 

I received my 0W20 oil today. And then I went on Amazon and ordered this HP-4001 filter with 2 days free delivery since I am prime. The filter is usually about $13 to $16. It is now on sale on amazon for $10.08 shipped. That is with tax already included.

The filter will really be huge compared to stock. Nobody carries it locally.

You can go to K&N website and look at the specs. It is the same. Well, only this one member here is the one who has attempted it and it seems to working just fine. I am next. I will put the filter on my QX. I wonder if the dealership will refuse to put it on for me though since I pay them $10 to do my oil change. I always bring my oil and filter and pay them only $10 for them to do the work.

I have the specs. Let me share them from their website. You can also go and check.

HP-1010: Correct filter for our QX/Armada.

HP-4001: Not recommended anywhere for our cars. It is for a Porsche. And old Porsche, not even the new ones.

Well, all the specs of the HP-4001 are the same with the HP-1010. The HP-4001 just gives you a chance to put a little more oil in your car since the filter holds more oil than the correct OEM filter.

 

These are the specs from their website for both filters. I will install the big filter on my QX and hope there will be no leaks. We shall see. I am not the first to try it. I hope the OP who tried it has the chance to stop by and update us on how it has been doing for the past 5 months.

Till then, I will get my filter this week and will decide when I will go do my oil change. I do not need an oil change right now since it is not even close to being due for one, but I just want to do an oil change. I have put only 1,200 miles on my QX for the last 5 months since my last oil change. I checked the oil this night and the oil looks and smells new. But I will be doing an oil change soon.

Here are the specs for both filters. These specs I got them from the K&N website. It is a screenshot from my phone of their website with all specs of both filters. Anybody can get on their website and look it up.

 

I'd want to know what 'high flow premium media' is supposed to convey? Filtration is about removing contaminants, not high flow. Unless required for a specific application. I suspect there is nothing really special about this K&N filter besides the nut they weld to the bottom >

This thread has got me wondering now. I called Baldwin and got some specs on their filter that crosses with the Nissan O.E.M. Didn't seem all that impressive to me. I think I'll contact Mobil 1 as well to see if they'll tell me the specs on this M1-110A filter.

The Baldwins I asked about were a B1402 and a B1431. Both were 23 microns at 50% nominal and 45 microns at 98.7% absolute.

Kinda wish everybody would just put their cards on the table and not make us have to dig for information like this. I'd rather see what it's made of and view the basic specs than have the perfect packaging and misleading advertising jargon.

I'm also sure even the cheapest and junkiest of filters would probably be adequate for most. I just want the good stuff! Or I at least want to know what the good stuff is, so I can see if I can afford it

 

You know all these companies selling filters and oil will come up with all kinds of fancy words to describe their products which can be misleading. That is advertisement and that is what they do and sometimes they offer some of their own personal tests and reviews in caparism to other products in which theirs always come out the best.

As for the specs of the filters, they disclose only so much. When you call to find out more info, you will be surprised you will get the run around. Or they will flat out refuse. All those fancy words, they cannot explain further than what you read. That is why I guess you may not get a very definite answer to the exact questions you have. But if you happen to find out something new, would be nice of you to have with us here in the forum.

If oil filters can be classified in 3 categories of Economy, Regular, and Premium, you know Mobil 1 and K&N will both be in the premium class. The others can fall in any of the 3 classes.

This is all based on real life reviews from all car forums and from a well respected website like bobistheoilguy. If you have never been there you should go there and you will learn some things for sure.

When it comes to oil and filters, if anybody would just follow what the manufacturer recommends, one's car should not have oil problems. That is change your oil with conventional 5w30 with a regular or Nissan filter after every 3,750 miles. Truly, anybody who does that will have a clean engine. Nobody can dispute that will not give someone a good and clean engine with tons of miles on odometer.

But as you know in car forums, people wan to challenge manufacturers and do what they think or feel is best for them. Like here for example. This member is using a large filter. Nissan will not encourage that at all. But it is his car and he can do what he wants to it even if he ruins it. But we should know that nobody wants to ruin their car, so people do what they think is good for their cars. Like you are using 0w20, but Nissan recommended 5w30 for your car and mine. Me too I have used 0w40 and will use 0w20 and a large filter now. That is not what Nissan would want or encourage or recommend. But I take good care of my cars and I want to be experimental with the filter. As for the 0w20 oil, I know that will be just fine for the car, same as you knew it would be fine for your car.

Are you also interested in experimenting with this large filter? I am doing it and will see how it turns out.

Do you run your oil for 5,000 or 10,000 miles? I used to run mine for 10,000 miles, but I think I will stick with 5,000 miles oil change on my QX now.

I see you used Mobil 1 high mileage full synthetic. That is one of those oils that will be considered premium. Same as their filter. So, that is why you use it. But I am very sure a Fram Ultra filter and a Pennzoil full sybthetic oil ran for 3,750 miles or even 5,000 miles will offer the same protection as that premium Mobil 1. That is why these things are just personal preferences. I believe they all work the same if we do frequent oil changes not extended oil changes.

 

I finally got my large filter. Now just need a day to decide when to go get my oil change. Keeping fingers crossed that dealership does not refuse to install this filter for me. Because of that, I plan to buy the real filter and just have it with me. Just in case they refuse to install this, I will have the real oem filter for it.

I also bought 2 PCV valves to change the ones on my QX. I cannot do it myself so need to find someone to do it and I pay for it.

 

Just did an oil change. Used a Donaldson P552849.

 

Nice! Did you do your own oil change or the dealership did it for you? What grade oil did you use? Still 0w20? How long do you plan to run this before your next oil change?

My own large filter is still going great. No leaks or loss of engine yet. So, it is working. I have put about 2,800 miles on the large filter and my first use of 0W20 so far. May use it till 5,00 miles or may change it before then. I will see.

 

The day I installed my Yokohama tires, I found out it would rub at full turn. I got upset and went home and ordered another set of offroad tires that should fit without any worries. I ordered the Radar Renegade R/T+ 285/50R22.

I was going to return the Yokohama tires and install the Radar, but I did a bit of modification. I zip tied the wheel well inner liner and now the Yokohama does not scrub. Since I really like the Yokohama tires, I will have to return these radar tires. Glad to know from seller that they pay for returns.

So within the last 4 weeks, I have ordered 3 sets of brand new tires.